60hz vs 120hz on a tv/monitor with amd 6850

daRkKon

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need help solving a rumor with graphics cards...

im planning to get the 6850, along with this im planning on getting a new tv/monitor, specifically this one because of the price tag:

samsung ln40c500.

i will be strickly using it for ONLY a PC monitor and hardcore gaming!
main game i play is crysis.

i want to know if 120hz or a 60hz refresh rate on the tv can make a difference in PC gaming?
 
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Vdubchaos

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I believe TV 120hz is software only, Monitor is actual hardware.

Might be wrong.

120 monitors cost a lot
 

daRkKon

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i found this "
Regarding all 60hz Displays and Current 120hz LCD HDTV Displays


If the primary application of you display is gaming, I suggest against purchasing a 120hz[HDTV]. The benefit of 120hz technology in 120hz LCD HDTVs will not be utilized in gaming applications. The reason for this is, a 120hz LCD HDTV refreshes at 120hz, although, it will only accept a 60hz or lower input[even if they did accept 120hz inputs, it would simply render it at 60hz and double the frames; 60hz x2=120 instead of TRUE 120hz. In other words, 120hz LCD HDTVs are not TRUE 120hz displays]. Consequently, even if you are gaming at above 120 frames per second, you will not gain the benefit of seeing those additional frames. "

http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/662628-60hz-vs-120hz-explained.html
 

Absolution75

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Depends if that is a real 120hz TV or if its the interpolated frames as you post above.


Do you know for sure that the TV is actually 60hz interpolated @ 120hz? it probably is, but its worth checking
 

Anomaly1964

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I went thru ALL this about 2 weeks ago...

I tried LCD and Plasma on a 42inch tv...

ALL LCDs of that size had mouse lag (120hz, 720/1080p)...

The Plasma worked great for GAMING...IF 1080P, no mouse lag but web surfing looks TERRIBLE...

Maybe for SMALLER TVs it's different...

Throw any technical stuff out there you like for what SHOULD work, my layman's experience tells it like it is...
 

daRkKon

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the current tv i listed is only a 60hz but i wanted to know if 120hz is capable for pc gaming?
 

daRkKon

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I went thru ALL this about 2 weeks ago...

I tried LCD and Plasma on a 42inch tv...

ALL LCDs of that size had mouse lag (120hz, 720/1080p)...

The Plasma worked great for GAMING...IF 1080P, no mouse lag but web surfing looks TERRIBLE...

Maybe for SMALLER TVs it's different...

Throw any technical stuff out there you like for what SHOULD work, my layman's experience tells it like it is...

what would you recommend just for mainly using it as a monitor?
 

Anomaly1964

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42 inch 1080p Plasma (again, if you don't mind not using it for web browsing)...

For gaming it looked GREAT!

I just wanted an ALL IN ONE solution.

I wound up getting a 28" I-Inc from CompUSA...$249.00!
 

bunnyfubbles

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I can't name any LCD TVs that will accept 120Hz sources, AFAIK all will be limited to accepting 60Hz source input, even if they have a 120Hz panel. If you really want 120Hz gaming you're going to have to get a PC monitor which currently top out 22-24" in size.

120Hz TVs were developed to eliminate the judder effect due to pulldown compensations - movies with a 24fps frame rate don't fit with a 60Hz refresh rate, but they work just fine @ 120Hz as each frame is just displayed 5 times, and some TVs even introduce interpolation techniques to make the source material appear to be even smoother by interpolating new frames that transition the sequence between the source frames. That being said, interpolation is terrible for games because A. the extra frames aren't real, B. you're still playing at 60fps max even though you're seeing 120fps, C. the whole process can go to crap if you're not feeding the TV a constant and steady frame rate, D. the process creates massive input lag.
 

daRkKon

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thank you for your input bunnyfubbles it was well taken into consideration and i now know what i need to make a good purchase.
 

birthdaymonkey

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I have a 120Hz Samsung LN40C630, which I use as my primary display. It can only be set to 60Hz in control panel. The 120Hz upsampling done by the TV is useless for computer output; even blu-ray rips look weird with it enabled. Other than that, I've been really happy with the TV. I leave it set in Game Mode all the time and there's virtually no mouse lag. The only game I play is SC2, but I've tried a few FPS and they work fine.
 

daRkKon

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thank you all for your input i eneded up purchasing the samsung ln40c500 very minimal game lag in crysis only but thats probably because my fps is like 30 :\ not once i get the 5850 though :D
 

HybridSquirrel

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i found this "
Regarding all 60hz Displays and Current 120hz LCD HDTV Displays


If the primary application of you display is gaming, I suggest against purchasing a 120hz[HDTV]. The benefit of 120hz technology in 120hz LCD HDTVs will not be utilized in gaming applications. The reason for this is, a 120hz LCD HDTV refreshes at 120hz, although, it will only accept a 60hz or lower input[even if they did accept 120hz inputs, it would simply render it at 60hz and double the frames; 60hz x2=120 instead of TRUE 120hz. In other words, 120hz LCD HDTVs are not TRUE 120hz displays]. Consequently, even if you are gaming at above 120 frames per second, you will not gain the benefit of seeing those additional frames. "

http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/662628-60hz-vs-120hz-explained.html

thank you for helpin gme purchase my new tv ...was torn between a 120hz 37" or a 60hz 42" for the same price.