6000SUX's obvious Flame thread

compuwiz1

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I scan read the thread, but did not find anything particularly offensive. Care to post a quote?
 

KeithTalent

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I have a feeling the OP is referring to this type of thing:

quasi-scientific theory in public school curriculums? I would argue that we cannot afford to let sham science be taught in our classrooms

The thread looks fine to me though, particularly since he added the third poll option (which is what I voted for FWIW).
 

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Originally posted by: gersson
true freedom of speech allows all speech even speech that you find stupid/annoying.
no, it does not.

you aren't free to yell "FIRE!" in a crowded building. with free speech should also come common sense.
 

compuwiz1

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: gersson
true freedom of speech allows all speech even speech that you find stupid/annoying.
no, it does not.

you aren't free to yell "FIRE!" in a crowded building. with free speech should also come common sense.

:thumbsup: :)



 

SagaLore

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Originally posted by: compuwiz1
I scan read the thread, but did not find anything particularly offensive. Care to post a quote?

First 2 pages, all of his replies consist of:

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It's very simple. If there were a national referendum to decide this issue (I know it won't happen), would you vote for or against the inclusion of this quasi-scientific theory in public school curriculums? I would argue that we cannot afford to let sham science be taught in our classrooms if we want to stay competitive with other nations, but I am mostly interested in the percentage of people who would vote either way.

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No. The world science community squarely discounts intelligent design, and it is not considered true science.

If I could, I'd ban ya. But I can't. So STFU and go somewhere where you'll be more, um, on your intellectual level.

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No, you're allowed to disagree. You're not supposed to be a stupid troll. I less logically gifted than you... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You have to come a little stronger next time, dummy.

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That's all well and good, but nobody said the two were opposites. They could not be. While it is not the goal of scientists to undermine religious beliefs, religious beliefs masquerading as scientific theories are dangerous when they are allowed into schools. Protecting the correct teaching of science can and should be the goal of scientists everywhere.

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Intelligent design is a bona-fide threat to the teaching of correct science. Your analogy is inapposite. I could just as well say you are like a PB & J sandwich-- you can say anything on a discussion board. Follow the link I posted to the NAS and being reading if you want to be able to tell truth from untruth for yourself.

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It is a threat to science. The letter from the NAS head may be of interest to you, or hopefully so. Knowingly introducing bad science into the classroom means that some students will learn the bad science. To teach a concept correctly means to present the information correctly, and not knowingly to present false information. I would no more contemplate allowing intelligent design into a science class than I would allow a religious person to force inclusion of the concept that 2 + 2 = 5 into a math class.

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Whether or not I agree is irrelevant. It is the fact he posted a poll then quickly went into trash talking. :confused: My take on it? I don't think schools should allow ID to be taught. That belongs in the individual churches (especially with all the different denominations/versions). I'd rather not let a public school system try to teach specifics about what a particular religion believes - its not their job. But its hard to participate in a thread like that.