600 3dmark points boost by flashing 9800np

[stardust]

6056 3Dmarks with Saphire 9800np flashed @ (400/333)

3Dmark03 of flashed 9800np -> 9800pro

details: link may not work

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5420 3Dmarks with Saphire 9800np @ (350/300)

General Information

Operating System Microsoft Windows XP

DirectX Version 9.0

Mobo Manufacturer ASUSTek Computer Inc.

Mobo Model P4P800

AGP Rates (Current/Available) 8x / 4x, 8x

CPU Intel Pentium 4 3250 MHz

FSB 250 MHz

Memory 510 MB



Display Information

Graphics Chipset ATI RADEON 9800

Driver Name RADEON 9800 (Omega 2.4.74)

Driver Version 6.14.10.6374

Driver WHQL Certified Unknown

Video Memory 128 MB

Core Clock 351 MHz

Memory Clock 301 MHz



Sound Information

Sound Adapter Driver Name

Sound Adapter Driver Version



Benchmark Settings

Program Version 3DMark03 Revision 1 Build 3

Resolution 1024x768@32 bit

Texture Filtering Optimal

Pixel Processing / Antialiasing None

Post Processing false

Vertex Shaders Optimal



Main Test Results
3DMark Score 5420 3DMarks

CPU Score 727.0 CPUMarks



Detailed Test Results


Game Tests

GT1 - Wings of Fury 198.6 fps

GT2 - Battle of Proxycon 34.9 fps

GT3 - Troll's Lair 31.5 fps

GT4 - Mother Nature 31.0 fps

 

[azntiger0586]

9800np flashed, u mean u flashed to a 9800p?

 

[stardust]

yes, sorry

i mean 9800np -> 9800pro


from other thread:

Originally posted by: pelikan
stardust- did flashing allow you to overclock further, or did it increase the score by itself?

maybe i should've had the same clocks for both but i forgot to take a screenshot last time.

Before flashing, i had the 9800np to 400/330 and it scored around 5483 3Dmarks

after flashing, my memory was autmatically set to 333 so my overal clock was 400/333 which produced 6056 3Dmarks

now in ur judgment, does 3 mhz of memory give u 600 points??

 

[azntiger0586]

so you are the newest to this board who has flashed 9800np to 9800p. so tell me, how long did it take u? and are you still using the stock heatsink and fan or the zalman. and what steps would you reccomend to do a perfect 9800np tweak to the best of your knowledge.

PS: where did u get your 9800 np sapphire? newegg i assume?

many thanks.

 

[stardust]

Flashing took less that 1 min but finding out how to flash took an hour .
I'm using a Vantec iceberq4 VGA cooler with 8 tweakmonster BGA RAMsinks.
My card is a Saphire 9800NP from Newegg.com which has 3.3ns Samsung memory.

for my whole process of tweaking, fixing, and flashing click here

 

[azntiger0586]

did you use omegas or ati official drivers?

EDITED:
omegas.

nvm, i just read your 3d mark info. thanks for the info.

 

[stardust]

click the link on top!

they're all omegas

 

[cjsketchy]

Hmm, I'm going to flash my Dell 9800np w/Samsung 2A chips to the pro bios tonight. I'll run 3DMark at 380/340, and maybe a higher speed, before and after. Will let you guys know how it goes.

 

[azntiger0586]

when the 9800np is flashed into a 9800p, does it just makes it easier to overclock or does the core and memory speed of the card changes to a pro. if so, is it ok to keep the stock fan if you are just flashing the bios and not overclocking manually? many thanks.

 

[railer]

Here's a stupid question:

Why can't ya just OC the NP? Is it locked? What's the point of flashing the BIOS? Does the pro BIOS give higher core and mem voltages by default?

 

[dripgoss]

Here's a stupid question:

It's not that stupid. I'm wondering myself. I've had a Sapphire 9800np for about a week running between 380/330 and 400/340 stable with 3.3 Samsung and the stock HSF WITHOUT flashing to a Pro BIOS. It appears these cards clock to (stock) Pro speeds even without the Pro BIOS, so what's the reason of flashing? If I'm not mistaken, the only difference between the Pro and the NP is the type/speed RAM used onboard, and the corresponding speeds associated with the specific RAM chips, right?

 

[stardust]

Originally posted by: railer
Here's a stupid question:

Why can't ya just OC the NP? Is it locked? What's the point of flashing the BIOS? Does the pro BIOS give higher core and mem voltages by default?

Originally posted by: dripgoss

Here's a stupid question:

It's not that stupid. I'm wondering myself. I've had a Sapphire 9800np for about a week running between 380/330 and 400/340 stable with 3.3 Samsung and the stock HSF WITHOUT flashing to a Pro BIOS. It appears these cards clock to (stock) Pro speeds even without the Pro BIOS, so what's the reason of flashing? If I'm not mistaken, the only difference between the Pro and the NP is the type/speed RAM used onboard, and the corresponding speeds associated with the specific RAM chips, right?

did u read that post above???

Originally posted by: stardust
Before flashing, i had the 9800np to 400/330 and it scored around 5483 3Dmarks

after flashing, my memory was autmatically set to 333 so my overal clock was 400/333 which produced 6056 3Dmarks

now in ur judgment, does 3 mhz of memory give u 600 points??

at almost same clock speeds, a flash generated 600 more points! fancy that

 

[railer]

But it doesn't make sense that flashing the bios and keeping the clock speeds the same would buy you anything. Either you're gaining something else in flashing the bios, or the bechmarking is flawed. I take it there's nothing about these 9800's that makes the core or mem clock difficult to unlock. It's common knowledge (although possibly wrong) that the only diff. between np and pro is clock speed. I would need a good reason to flash the BIOS. And that reason wouldn't be because "it's faster", I would need to know specifically WHY it's faster. Thanks for any insight.

 

[stardust]

i don't know...this is just my experience. i don't even suggest flashing, just wait a while, until ur vga card feels slower.