6 Predominately Black Churches Have Been Destroyed By Fire In The Past Week

[WHAMPOM]

Time to do some number crunching to find out if this is an anomaly and investigate for arson.

Gotta repeat myself do I? If it is a cluster and repeated it is not random.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Your first article says one by lightning and the 2nd says nothing about lightning and your quote says one.

and now there is this:

Latest black church fire may not have been set by lightning, authorities say

"‘Bogus, bogus. We just don’t know yet,’ fire chief said to anonymous report that lightning caused fire in seventh black church since Charleston shooting"

...

"Police and firefighters are disputing an anonymous report claiming that the most recent of seven fires at predominantly black churches in the south was caused by lightning."

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...olina-black-church-fires-lightning-charleston

Nice try though.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...-weather-caused-mount-zion-ame-church-to-burn

Investigators Say Weather Caused Mount Zion AME Church To Burn

Yep, two struck by lightning

 

[Victorian Gray]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...-weather-caused-mount-zion-ame-church-to-burn



Yep, two struck by lightning

I provide a link with direct quotes from the local fire chief while you provide a link with 'unnamed source'.

Yeah, what was I thinking. You win.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

http://news.yahoo.com/south-carolina-church-fire-started-natural-causes-police-184152826.html

The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division said in a statement on Thursday that the Greeleyville church fire probe was completed and "investigators observed no indicator of criminal intent."
"Based upon the scene examination, the fire debris analysis, witness statements and a lightning strike report, the cause of the fire was best classified as natural," the statement said

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/03/us/south-carolina-church-fire-mount-zion-ame/

South Carolina church fire caused by lightning, officials say

(CNN)Lightning, not arson, caused the fire that gutted a traditionally black church in South Carolina this week, federal and state investigators have concluded.
Tuesday's fire at Mount Zion African Methodist Episcopal Church in Greeleyville was caused by lightning, and there was "no criminal intent," the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said Thursday on Twitter.
The South Carolina Law Enforcement Division concurred, releasing a statement Thursday saying that the fire is "best classified as natural" and that investigators found no indications of wrongdoing.
Senior FBI officials said as early as Wednesday that lightning might have caused the Greeleyville fire, citing heavy storms that were in the area when it started. They also said investigators at the scene found no accelerants, which would have been an indicator of arson.
A forensics report by CNN meteorologists showed four lightning strikes in the church's immediate vicinity at 7:18 p.m. ET Tuesday.

 

[Victorian Gray]

http://news.yahoo.com/south-carolina-church-fire-started-natural-causes-police-184152826.html

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/03/us/south-carolina-church-fire-mount-zion-ame/

Did you happen to note that these stories are from the next day?

The fact remains, on the 2nd they had not yet determined the cause of the fire.

Personally, I'm gad to hear the news.

Now, go have your little happy dance because your blind determination of what happened turned out to be backed up by the investigation and you 'won' the interwebs. Yay for you!

 

[zinfamous]

Did you happen to note that these stories are from the next day?

The fact remains, on the 2nd they had not yet determined the cause of the fire.

Personally, I'm gad to hear the news.

Now, go have your little happy dance because your blind determination of what happened turned out to be backed up by the investigation and you 'won' the interwebs. Yay for you!

That's not the issue. The issue is immediately jumping on something like this and irresponsibly turning it into a potential vehicle for rioting. It's completely shameful.

It's suspiciously coincidental, sure, but all coincidences are suspicious, until it turns out they are just coincidences.

The data about annual church fires seems to be publicly, and easily available. I can understand someone's thoughts immediately turning to the suspicion that racists are throwing their salvo, in light of recent events--but as soon as someone sees the numbers posted very early in the previous thread about these fires, those thoughts should be immediately tempered.

I don't really see the point of trying to argue for or defend the assumption that this must be evil racists. it's not like anyone in here wants that. This shouldn't be a team sport.

 

[Victorian Gray]

That's not the issue. The issue is immediately jumping on something like this and irresponsibly turning it into a potential vehicle for rioting. It's completely shameful.

It's suspiciously coincidental, sure, but all coincidences are suspicious, until it turns out they are just coincidences.

The data about annual church fires seems to be publicly, and easily available. I can understand someone's thoughts immediately turning to the suspicion that racists are throwing their salvo, in light of recent events--but as soon as someone sees the numbers posted very early in the previous thread about these fires, those thoughts should be immediately tempered.

I don't really see the point of trying to argue for or defend the assumption that this must be evil racists. it's not like anyone in here wants that. This shouldn't be a team sport.

I never did any such thing. I simply pointed out that, at the point in time we were posting, the fire chief had stated that, counter to what was being reported, there had been no determination made as to cause.

The determination as to cause has been made and it's sad that the Church has to be rebuilt but great that it wasn't caused by some asshat with a grudge.

 

[Knowing]

They arrested a suspect in several fires around St. Louis, MO. The SPLC commented.

 

[x26]

The GOP burned the churches?
Maybe it was libs that did it.
Or maybe they were burned for the insurance money.
Or maybe they were accidents...

Or maybe a combination of all of these.

According to the article:







Just a whole lot of I Don't Know in that article and in your post. Just stirring up crap like always about things you know nothing about...

Indus and many other Posters here "Live" to stir things up and spew Hate filled Crap.

 

[cubby1223]

From: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/28/black-churches-fire_n_7681754.html

Hmm.. I guess the GOP said to their base after Charleston

Put down the bottle. Slowly back away from the internet. This is for your own sanity.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hey OP, here's your racist white guy for the lulz.

You really ought to not leap to conclusions, a very CBD tendency

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Hey OP, here's your racist white guy for the lulz.

You really ought to not leap to conclusions, a very CBD tendency

Ahahjahahahahahahahahaha

Fucking pwned.

Just goes to show you how much you toolbags make an ass out of your everytime you assume.

Like when you ASSume an officer is wrong because of a one-sided story from the "victim" and no other proof.

Like how when someone accuses a fraternity of raping her at a party - publishing it in a magazine, and then the fraternity responding that they didn't even have a party that night.

Ohhh sweet Liberal SJW tears. I'm collecting them in a bottle to drink.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Victim complexes cause people to imagine and invent persecution, who would have thought?

EDIT: Actually, wait a sec. It seems like that dude set two fires this month; not really related to the ones after the Charleston shooting are they?

 

[HTFOff]

EDIT: Actually, wait a sec. It seems like that dude set two fires this month; not really related to the ones after the Charleston shooting are they?

David Lopez Jackson was charged Friday in St. Louis Circuit Court with two counts of second-degree arson in the fires at Ebenezer Lutheran Church and New Life Missionary Baptist Church, both in the city. St. Louis Police Chief Sam Dotson said investigations continue into the other fires - three in St. Louis, two in nearby Jennings - and Jackson is a suspect in all of them.

The fires were set between Oct. 8 and Oct. 22. Five of the congregations are predominantly black, one is racially mixed and one is mostly white.

The fires spurred a hate-crime investigation to determine if the attacks were motivated by race or religion. But the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives downplayed that possibility in a statement on Friday.

"There appears to be no indication of a hate crime or sign ... any one particular Christian denomination or ethnic group was being targeted," the federal agency said.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...T_LOUIS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

404 - Hate crime not found.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Is it considered a hate crime to fake being a victim of a hate crime?