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6 NATO Allies Refuse to help Train Iraqi Police

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No Lifer
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/...;slug=US%20NATO%20Iraq
WASHINGTON -- At least six NATO allies are refusing to send military instructors to help the United States train Iraqi officers, another impediment in the Bush administration's drive for support for its effort to pacify Iraq.

The six nations - Germany, France, Belgium, Spain, Luxembourg and Greece - had refused to contribute troops to the U.S.-led coalition that overthrew President Saddam Hussein and to the postwar campaign against insurgents.

The administration was hoping to forge a consensus on postwar peacemaking. The project to train Iraqi officers will not involve combat duties and is part of a broader security program.

A State Department official close to the dispute said Friday that all 26 NATO allies voted on Wednesday at alliance headquarters in Brussels for the training program and agreed to help fund it. However, at least six held out from playing any active role and refused to send officers to NATO staging areas in Norfolk, Va., and Mons, Belgium.

Still, the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, stressed that all NATO allies, including the holdouts, approved the plan by consensus and were committed to paying a share of the costs.

Meanwhile, the State Department's deputy spokesman, Adam Ereli, said of the holdouts: "It's a decision of the individual countries that does not undermine the importance or value of the overall mission."

Hungary, which is withdrawing its troops from Iraq, will contribute a company to help protect the training officers, the official said. Fifteen other NATO countries will contribute trainers, protect troops, or both.

The United States will bear a large share of the costs and contribute a sizable percentage of the 400 officers and a protective force of about 1,200, the official said. An advance contingent of 60 to 65 officers will go to Baghdad in the four to six weeks to begin the training program.

While NATO long has played a postwar peacekeeping role in Afghanistan, disapproval lingers over the Bush administration's decision to go to war in Iraq.

The decision to use NATO nations to train Iraqi officers is the first collective action on Iraq by the alliance, the official said. By contrast, the official said, NATO might increase its forces in Afghanistan.
Bush is winning those countries over left and right with his compassionate conservatism and diplomatic moxie.






Oh wait....
 
Instead of spreading the propaganda, why don't you stand behind the President? Those that don't want to help are the same ones that come crawling to the U.S. when they need something. I think the next time they need our help, we turn our noses in the air and let happen what will.
 
Originally posted by: maddogchen
whats
**Official** Iraqi Prisoner Abuse Thread...Rumsfeld and Rice KNEW in 2002...New Cases of Abuse in Mosul!
gotta do with

WASHINGTON -- At least six NATO allies are refusing to send military instructors to help the United States train Iraqi officers, another impediment in the Bush administration's drive for support for its effort to pacify Iraq.
Nato?

I was wondering the same thing... I don't see anything about Mosul. Wrong article?
 
Stupid drop-down IE history. I had cut-n-pasted the article title but, sometimes, prior topic titles drop down in the text field and the 1st one gets selected.

Fixed topic title
 
US angered by refusal of some in NATO to participate in Iraq mission: official
http://story.news.yahoo.com/ne...cid=1514&ncid=1480
WASHINGTON (AFP) - The United States is growing increasingly frustrated with the refusal of five NATO (news - web sites) members, particularly Germany, to allow their military officers assigned to alliance bases to be deployed in Iraq (news - web sites), a senior US official said.

NATO agreed this week to set up a training mission for the Iraqi military in what the official called a "significant" sign of progress since US-led invasion splintered the alliance last year, but Washington fears Berlin's position may erode newfound fragile unity, the official said.

Germany, along with fellow antiwar NATO members Belgium, France, Luxembourg and Spain, went along with the decision to set up the Baghdad training mission but have refused to permit their officers stationed at NATO's two operations bases to participate, the official said.

"Frankly, a number of us have been surprised by this," the official told reporters on condition of anonymity at the State Department, suggesting that the position smacked of obstinateness and a refusal to fully support the interim Iraqi government in its time of need.

The official noted pointedly that the five had supported the creation of the training mission and had professed to want to help stabilize postwar Iraq despite rancorous differences over the war and said their decision to "opt-out" their NATO-seconded officers was unprecedented.

"I believe this is the first time this kind of thing has happened," the official said.

The official said no one expected Belgium, France, Germany, Luxembourg or Spain to contribute troops from their own national armies to the training mission, which will send about 400 allied officers to train senior Iraqi commanders and 1,100 to 1,200 soldiers to protect the operation.

But, he said, the United States and others had been stunned when the five, led by Germany, refused to allow their officers who are now stationed at alliance bases in Mons, Belgium and Norfolk, Virginia to participate in the program.

"These are NATO officers under NATO command and they should follow orders from NATO commanders," the official said.

On Wednesday in Brussels, NATO ambassadors adopted without debate an "operation plan" for the Iraq mission which foresees the dispatch of military instructors under heavy guard.

But officials said NATO chief Jaap de Hoop Scheffer was furious by the refusal of some members to allow their officers to participate and sources said that Germany in particular was holding out against letting its NATO staff officers take part.

"For this caveat ... to spread would be corrosive for the solidarity of the alliance. It is something the secretary general will resist," one official said.

A "heated exchange" occurred between the US and German representatives during the ambassadors' meeting, according to one source. The senior US official denied that account but made clear that Washington and its allies in NATO's governing board were not pleased.

"We think they should make the decision to be present in Iraq and we have made that clear," the official said.

Despite the row, the official said the training mission would not be affected by the refusal of the five to participate and the United States is pleased that NATO appeared to be moving in the right direction on Iraq.

Wednesday's approval for the training mission "is the first time that NATO has been able to agree on anything collectively on Iraq for the past two years," the official said. "It is significant that we were able to get consensus on any issue related to Iraq."

Deputy State Department spokesman Adam Ereli praised NATO's approval of the training mission as an "important signal of Euro-Atlantic consensus" and declined to discuss the controversy in detail but made clear the United States was unhappy with the situation.

"We don't necessarily agree with it, but it's their decision," he said.
Frankly they're surprised? I don't see how anyone could be surprised. The Bush administration has been a bull in a china shop for over 18 months now. Diplomacy is a forgotten term. Intelligence is a forgotten characteristic. Prudence is a forgotten virtue. And, most importantly, security is a forgotten concept.
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Train them on different soil.. and then bring them back

Even that isn't the most secure method:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.c...2002094105_iraq18.html
The Interior Ministry said yesterday it was investigating a report from police in Karbala that 31 recruits may have been abducted in the Rutba, a town in the west, as they returned from training in neighboring Jordan. The ministry spokesman, Sabah Kadhim, said a group of recruits was due to return by plane this week but may have left overland ahead of time along a road rife with bandits and insurgents. Iraq's border with Jordan, along with the airport in Baghdad, were closed until Monday.
 
I don't understand how this admin can say "We'll go it alone, we don't need to listen to you" and then be surprised that help is not forthcoming.

If you want our help, listen to what we have to say. If you don't, then don't act all surprised by the results.
 
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