6 core Ivy-E coming....yay?

[moonbogg]

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/ivy_bridge_e_based_core_i7_hedt_lineup_details.html

I was expecting an 8 core version. I'm wondering what kind of benefit this could possibly have over Sandy-E. 5% ipc? That would be less than exciting. Maybe it will have a good IHS and can OC like crazy. That would be pretty cool I think.

 

[NTMBK]

Given that the Xeon Ivy Bridge this is based on is meant to go to 10 cores, I'm pretty disappointed...

 

[Grooveriding]

Pathetic. Given the measly performance improvement Intel keeps giving from one CPU to the next, this kind of upgrade is hard to find anywhere near as compelling as a GPU upgrade is, which actually delivers massive improvements.

I think buyers would of got more excited over exactly the same specs as SB-E but 2 more cores instead of another 100mhz and whatever the IPC increase is in SB to IB; 5-8% ?

:thumbsdown:

 

[Arachnotronic]

Pathetic. Given the measly performance improvement Intel keeps giving from one CPU to the next, this kind of upgrade is hard to find anywhere near as compelling as a GPU upgrade is, which actually delivers massive improvements.

I think buyers would of got more excited over exactly the same specs as SB-E but 2 more cores instead of another 100mhz and whatever the IPC increase is in SB to IB; 5-8% ?

:thumbsdown:

Hey, man, if more people actually bought these things, then there would be reason to keep cranking it. But right now, it's a niche market in which Intel throws its Xeon rejects.

 

[UaVaj]

since most software are only using 2.5 core.
since few software actually used all core.

no rush for 6 core, when 4 core is bearly saturated.

until majority of software catches up, clearly no need for anything beyond 4 core.

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since this is an enthausaist forum - bring on the 12 core cpu.

 

[ShintaiDK]

If its true, then its a bit dissapointing for the LGA2011 owners. Unless they clock very high at stock perhaps.

But again, niche is niche.

 

[crashtech]

...Xeon rejects.

Ouch. All this time I thought K series had to be better than others, not worse.

 

[exar333]

Fail, if true. Waiting 2 years to see a slight clock bump? BOO!

The only partial saving grace was if these clocked to the moon (5ghz+ on default voltage). Likely? No...

 

[Ajay]

since most software are only using 2.5 core.
since few software actually used all core.

no rush for 6 core, when 4 core is bearly saturated.

until majority of software catches up, clearly no need for anything beyond 4 core.

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since this is an enthausaist forum - bring on the 12 core cpu.

Yes, but this is HEDT, where people like me actually run some stuff that would actually be much faster w/8 cores. If you are a gamer, sure, stick to 4 cores and higher clocks.

 

[UaVaj]

Yes, but this is HEDT, where people like me actually run some stuff that would actually be much faster w/8 cores. If you are a gamer, sure, stick to 4 cores and higher clocks.

you are the exception (more power to you), not the average.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

You know, I wonder whether releasing a new CPU to reduce compute time and hence EDA cycle time is a valid suggestion at Intel

 

[frozentundra123456]

Hey, man, if more people actually bought these things, then there would be reason to keep cranking it. But right now, it's a niche market in which Intel throws its Xeon rejects.

If intel made a mainstream hex core, priced lower, perhaps people would buy it. Sort of a chicken vs the egg argument I guess.

Personally it is no matter to me, because 4 cores is plenty for my usage, but it would have been nice to see the die shrink bring something more than a measly few percent IPC increase.
I also seriously doubt it will be a great overclocker given ivy's performance in that area.

 

[cytg111]

with haswell around the corner anything less that 7-8 cores is ...not really pulling its weight.

 

[cytg111]

you are the exception (more power to you), not the average.

And hence the HEDT sticker? I dont get it?

 

[VirtualLarry]

If its true, then its a bit dissapointing for the LGA2011 owners. Unless they clock very high at stock perhaps.

But again, niche is niche.

I was expecting an enthusiast 8-core as well. Possibly, Intel is nerfing their 2011 enthusiast chip lineup, such that it doesn't take away from their Haswell launch?

Btw, is there any truth to the discussion that existing 6-core 2011 SB-E chips are really on an 8-core die, with two cores (various) disabled, due to mfg flaws?

If that's true, then why didn't Intel throw us a bone, and release an (expensive) 8-core fully-enabled die?

 

[Ajay]

Eh, Intel probably just wants to make sure workstation buyers stick with Xeons like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117261

A $1k 8 core IVB-E would likely kill sales of workstations based on IVB-EP Xeons with workstation quality motherboards, etc...

That or the 8 core versions just s*cked on x79 motherboards.

 

[Fjodor2001]

There is an 8 core Haswell CPU rumored to be released though, the Core i7-3980X on LGA-2011:

http://wccftech.com/arctic-cooling-...150-cpu-lineup-core-i73980x-confirmed-lga2011

Not sure when it's likely that it will be available though?

 

[fixbsod]

^^^ Yeah, just gonna post that I'm seeing 8 core i7-3980X --- appears to be SB-E tho and not IB-E/Haswell based on numbering.

Is anyone else EXTREMELY CONFUSED with this ridiculous numbering?? More specifically -- why is the SB desktop parts using 2xxx and SB-E using 3xxx as well as IB using 3xxx. Haswell is using 4xxx but so is IB-E using 4xxx??? WTF???

 

[OVerLoRDI]

Kind of a bummer. I'm not really in the market for one of these, but 8 core ivb would definitely been tempting. I have been wanting to build a 3 gpu watercooled monster, but 2011 isn't worth the cost.

Maybe Haswell-e will make the pill easier to swallow.

 

[Grooveriding]

^^^ Yeah, just gonna post that I'm seeing 8 core i7-3980X --- appears to be SB-E tho and not IB-E/Haswell based on numbering.

Is anyone else EXTREMELY CONFUSED with this ridiculous numbering?? More specifically -- why is the SB desktop parts using 2xxx and SB-E using 3xxx as well as IB using 3xxx. Haswell is using 4xxx but so is IB-E using 4xxx??? WTF???

SB-E is numbered higher than SB and IB to denote it as a higher ranking part in what Intel has available. It was no doubt intentional when they released SB-E to start it with 3XXX knowing that IB would have the 3XXX numbering scheme. This way SB-E parts maintained their appearance as higher ranking parts than IB parts.

The same will happen with IB-E, those parts are going to have a higher numbering scheme than Haswell parts do, both using 4XXX nomenclature, but still signifying IB-E as better performing parts than Haswell chips.

It is rather jumbled though, I agree.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Eh, Intel probably just wants to make sure workstation buyers stick with Xeons like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819117261

A $1k 8 core IVB-E would likely kill sales of workstations based on IVB-EP Xeons with workstation quality motherboards, etc...

That or the 8 core versions just s*cked on x79 motherboards.

You are mixing single socket and dualsocket chips.

The E5-1660 is most likely what you searched for.

 

[ShintaiDK]

There is an 8 core Haswell CPU rumored to be released though, the Core i7-3980X on LGA-2011:

http://wccftech.com/arctic-cooling-...150-cpu-lineup-core-i73980x-confirmed-lga2011

Not sure when it's likely that it will be available though?

Its not an 8 core Haswell CPU. Haswell would not be LGA2011 compatible anyway.

And there is no 3980X either.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Is anyone else EXTREMELY CONFUSED with this ridiculous numbering?? More specifically -- why is the SB desktop parts using 2xxx and SB-E using 3xxx as well as IB using 3xxx. Haswell is using 4xxx but so is IB-E using 4xxx??? WTF???

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the marketing people" -- Shakespeare updated for the 21st century.

I do remember reading a rumor about an i7-3980X earlier in the year.

 

[Ajay]

You are mixing single socket and dualsocket chips.

The E5-1660 is most likely what you searched for.

D'OH! Yes, thanks ShintaiDK.

 

[AdamK47]

Only hex core? I am disappoint.