Originally posted by: Tegeril
http://www.alienware.com/configurator_p...C-LT-AURORA-M-9700&subcode=SKU-DEFAULT
http://www.alienware.com/configurator_p...=PC-AREA51-7500-R4&subcode=SKU-DEFAULT
http://www.alienware.com/configurator_p...=PC-AURORA-7500-R4&subcode=SKU-DEFAULT
http://www.alienware.com/configurator_p...-LT-AREA51M5550-R3&subcode=SKU-DEFAULT
There are many more, but I've now wasted more time on you than was warranted, dmcowen
From $5,499 :shocked:Originally posted by: Smilin
If you are all hung up on XP here is a pimp gaming rig from dell that ships with it:
http://www.dell.com/content/products/pr...dt_710h2c?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn
Originally posted by: Robor
From $5,499 :shocked:Originally posted by: Smilin
If you are all hung up on XP here is a pimp gaming rig from dell that ships with it:
http://www.dell.com/content/products/pr...dt_710h2c?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&~ck=mn
I have my own PSS id, and I can confirm that I make it a cost center and not a profit center.Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: stash
I used to work in PSS, so I can speak with some authority on the topic. Every case that is resolved as being the result of a code bug is closed as non-dec (non-decrement, AKA free). There are no exceptions that I'm aware of....But again, this is only my opinion. I haven't seen any statistics or hard evidence that would give a clear indication of the number of support cases that are closed for free versus for pay. I'm just sceptical, knowing what I know about tech support, that they will properly diagnose something as a bug and give you a pass on the payment option.
Everyone who works in PSS from the CPR guys in the US all the way to the guys in Bangalore knows this policy. And as far as diagnosing something as a bug, the root cause is either a bug or it isn't. It's usually pretty clear-cut. If the engineer finds a case or an article that says a certain hotfix might fix it, and it does, that's a bug, free case. If nothing is working as far as troubleshooting, the case will get escalated to CPR and eventually someone is going to look at the code. If the problem is as a result of something happening in code, that's a bug, free case. If the engineer gives you a fix that seems to work and that is not releated a code defect, but then the issue returns, you call back and reopen your case.
I'm also in PSS and I'll confirm this. I'll also add that Support is a COST center at Microsoft, not a profit center. Even with paid incidents MS still takes a loss on every support call. This is typical of most software companies too. The only exceptions are Open Source where support is a profit center.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
If Vista is so great as some in here would have you to believe then why are there so many threads made by people that are not happy about it's performance or capatability???
I don't recall XP having this kind of bad start.
XP was an improvement.
It's core stopped the dreaded memory leak down that eventually crashed any machine no matter how much RAM was thrown at it.
Don't make someone use the horrendous search here to prove you wrong like Tegeril did with your "no XP computers available" claim.Originally posted by: dmcowen674
If Vista is so great as some in here would have you to believe then why are there so many threads made by people that are not happy about it's performance or capatability???
I don't recall XP having this kind of bad start.
XP was an improvement.
It's core stopped the dreaded memory leak down that eventually crashed any machine no matter how much RAM was thrown at it.
Squeeky wheel gets the grease. Why would anyone create a forum post that says, "Uh, things are working. Nothing to report"??? Also note that a large majority of those threads get resolved or simply determined to be pbkac.Originally posted by: dmcowen674
If Vista is so great as some in here would have you to believe then why are there so many threads made by people that are not happy about it's performance or capatability???
Your memory is short. It was far worse. XP sp1 was HUGE.I don't recall XP having this kind of bad start.
k, please elaborate. I have no idea what you are talking about. Why does a problem solved by XP somehow make Vista bad anyway? I don't follow the logic.XP was an improvement.
It's core stopped the dreaded memory leak down that eventually crashed any machine no matter how much RAM was thrown at it.
I am sick of hearing the whiners bash Microsoft. Don't like their restrictions? Don't like their software? Don't want to pay so much for an OS? Don't like their philosophy? quit whining/pirating/blah blah blah and take the time to learn something else. Ubuntu has made Linux as simple as Windows for anyone who can install windows and read. It would work for about 90% of the people (who don't care what they run, they just want to surf the web and get the joke emails from their friends). I don't run Linux because I hate b!lly, or because M$ $uxxors, I run it because I prefer that as a tool of choice (and I use windows when I feel it would make sense). But if you really feel that MS is bad, that Vista sucks, and that they have wronged you, then move off to something else, don't post garbage like "they should make XP public domain" on a message board. you look like a teenage brat.
I wish I had a dollar for every time people pinned blame on the wrong thing around here. I could have pizza every day for weeks :Q Some newbie's boot-device priority in the motherboard BIOS gets mixed up, and OH NOES WINDOWS IS EVIL even though it's a hardware/user problem. And so forth.Originally posted by: dmcowen674
If Vista is so great as some in here would have you to believe then why are there so many threads made by people that are not happy about it's performance or capatability???
Originally posted by: Sunner
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
If Vista is so great as some in here would have you to believe then why are there so many threads made by people that are not happy about it's performance or capatability???
I don't recall XP having this kind of bad start.
XP was an improvement.
It's core stopped the dreaded memory leak down that eventually crashed any machine no matter how much RAM was thrown at it.
Because it's the first new major version in...7 years?
XP was a 2K face lift, Vista is more akin to the NT4 to 2K transition.
And there were truckloads of posts whining about XP when it came out.
And memory leak that XP fixed? WTF are you talking about?
Yeah. I'd read about this one in another forum. So far only one client's XP Professional box got hit. It's a nearly-new Dell laptop and, out of the blue, it started constantly crashing the morning after the Windows Automatic Update (memory access errors related to a Windows Update). Microsoft's automatic crash debugger said it was caused by KB925902 and gave the solution (KB927891), but it was tough to apply since the PC wouldn't stay up long enough to run the patch.Originally posted by: dmcowen674
4-4-2007 Latest MS Update Causing Major Headaches - Some AV apps won't launch, some PCs won't boot...
Users in our Security forum note that the latest critical Microsoft Windows update (KB925902) is causing all kinds of problems. .
Originally posted by: RebateMonger
Yeah. I'd read about this one in another forum. So far only one client's XP Professional box got hit. It's a nearly-new Dell laptop and, out of the blue, it started constantly crashing the morning after the Windows Automatic Update (memory access errors related to a Windows Update). Microsoft's automatic crash debugger said it was caused by KB925902 and gave the solution (KB927891), but it was tough to apply since the PC wouldn't stay up long enough to run the patch.Originally posted by: dmcowen674
4-4-2007 Latest MS Update Causing Major Headaches - Some AV apps won't launch, some PCs won't boot...
Users in our Security forum note that the latest critical Microsoft Windows update (KB925902) is causing all kinds of problems. .
Originally posted by: Tarrant64
Does anyone remember what happened when Service Pack 2 came out? And that was FIXING things. lol.
Vista just needs a few months to get going. I'm using it, just fine. It gets buggy, but I knew that when I built the machine. It only quits on me when I start screwing things up.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Tarrant64
Does anyone remember what happened when Service Pack 2 came out? And that was FIXING things. lol.
Vista just needs a few months to get going. I'm using it, just fine. It gets buggy, but I knew that when I built the machine. It only quits on me when I start screwing things up.
So in a couple of months this brand new laptop running like a old retired bird dog on Vista will magically perform like a greyhound race dog??? We'll see.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Tarrant64
Does anyone remember what happened when Service Pack 2 came out? And that was FIXING things. lol.
Vista just needs a few months to get going. I'm using it, just fine. It gets buggy, but I knew that when I built the machine. It only quits on me when I start screwing things up.
So in a couple of months this brand new laptop running like a old retired bird dog on Vista will magically perform like a greyhound race dog??? We'll see.
What I think happened is:Originally posted by: Smilin
I'm confused as ******. You sure you didn't mistype the KBs you mentioned?![]()
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
All I know is it won't run any of my real estate software (thank god I didn't upgrade my lap top) and it crashes when I try to start up my MS Flight Simulator X
Other than that I like it.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
All I know is it won't run any of my real estate software (thank god I didn't upgrade my lap top) and it crashes when I try to start up my MS Flight Simulator X
Other than that I like it.
I'm surprised others didn't chime in here that you must be an incompetent PC owner since you can't get that Real Estate software or MS Flight Sim to work.
That's something that Microsoft's own code won't work.
Sounds like Vista is not backwards compatible at all.
Originally posted by: loup garou
Oh god, please restrain your lunacy to P&N.
