So maybe look for beta at the end of 2007???
Meh, don't overestimate my inside knowledge. I'm not on that team (nor is your TAM). Thinking there would be no service pack over the entire life of the product is pretty silly. I'm kinda surprised there's an argument about it. I've no idea what the plans or release dates are though. I can't give you Dave's number either so don't ask.Originally posted by: gsellis
Let me give you a huge hint since you seemed to miss it. Smilin told you there will be a SP1. He then told you how he knows without really saying it. "His" fix is in it. Get it yet? He has an inside track. He has a track that OEM's don't even have. He has a track Partners can only dream about. He has a track that Premier and MSDN folks don't have (I am both). He has the inside track. He probably knows David Cutler's cell phone numberOriginally posted by: doog519
Smilin
I'll work on it for you.
I will trust Smilin saying it over my own TAM.
Originally posted by: bsobel
So far your record is misinformation 3, truth 0.
Originally posted by: JesseKnows
My son is in NYU Law School. His computer went bad. School IT says he may not use a Vista machine. Must use XP for school tests, they use some app for tests that doesn't work with Vista. If cannot find, please buy in our book store...
Originally posted by: JesseKnows
My son is in NYU Law School. His computer went bad. School IT says he may not use a Vista machine. Must use XP for school tests, they use some app for tests that doesn't work with Vista. If cannot find, please buy in our book store...
Not to mention the f-ing thread title and original post!!!Very slimy in general to edit posts beyond typos or quote fixes imho
Can I just say how slimy it is that dcowen has posted a quote from me back in the original op like 5 pages ago but left off any retort?
12 pages of drivel not enough for ya?If he keeps trolling here, just asks the mods to review his behaviour.
Originally posted by: bsobel
Can I just say how slimy it is that dcowen has posted a quote from me back in the original op like 5 pages ago but left off any retort?
Thats his MO. He is basically wrong about everything, and as that is pointed out, completely changes the topic of the thread or point of view (the classic example was his saing gas should go to $5 so people would start looking into alternative fuels, then complaning when gas hit $3). The mods seem to put up with it in P&N (for reasons I yet to understand). Dave is the ultimate victim, nothing is ever his fault, the 'man' is out to get him, and he's never wrong, and folks like me owe him for some reason he can't articulate.
Oh, btw, he's running for president.
On the plus side, the P&N threads are fighting over lots of opinions. At least in OS there is generally truths you can show (sans the usualy is Linux or Windows better). He posts 'facts' we can show them to be wrong. If he keeps trolling here, just asks the mods to review his behaviour.
Fact is there is nothing wrong with XP to kill it off.
Not enough gain (IMHO) in Vista for it to be the only OS product.
Originally posted by: bsobel
Fact is there is nothing wrong with XP to kill it off.
Not enough gain (IMHO) in Vista for it to be the only OS product.
Dave, Vista is the evolutionary growth of XP. Why you may not see it directly, there are many fundemental base changes that will help grow the platform into the future. Should MS spend resources adding features to both OS's, no, it doesn't make sense for them to do so. Are they, yes, they will have to continue to support XP for some time. However it is clearly no longer the primary dev path.
Should Vista be the *only* OS product? No, but thats why we have compeition and other viable OS's exist.
It's funny, your already asking when you can beta the NEXT desktop OS which will be the evolutionary growth of Vista while at the same time saying how you hate Vista. I fully expect you to be complaining about the NEXT release when it comes out and how MS must keep Vista available.
Anybody remember the old days in AT when Win2K users were moaning and saying the same things about XP,we have come full circle again.
Originally posted by: harobikes333
i think I'm going to use a friends xp Professional that he's not using for a year or two until vista becomes less buggy
Originally posted by: bsobel
Anybody remember the old days in AT when Win2K users were moaning and saying the same things about XP,we have come full circle again.
Yep, this happens every release. The only time MS *really* deserved it was ME, the NT line upgrades have always been clear steps forward (even in the simpletons who only gauge their OS by the eye candy don't see the underlying changes).
Bill
dmcowen go crawl back under your bridge, troll.
