6,000 watt car amp..........finally there making some amps with POWER :)

notfred

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Why the fvck would anyone ever need a 6000 watt amp for thier car? it's not a damn stadium.
 

I would like to see the 500 amp alternator that is going to drive that sucker ;)
 

jitspoe

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The wheels on the car go round and round,
After the sound,
Blew them off the ground.

The wheels on the car go round and round,
From that song...
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: jitspoe
The wheels on the car go round and round,
After the sound,
Blew them off the ground.

The wheels on the car go round and round,
From that song...

what song?
 

jitspoe

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A song with a lot of bass would probably do that trick. I didn't have any particular song in mind. (Btw, for those who didn't catch it, that post was supposed to be sung to the "Wheels on the Bus" tune).
 

aphex

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Originally posted by: jitspoe
A song with a lot of bass would probably do that trick. I didn't have any particular song in mind. (Btw, for those who didn't catch it, that post was supposed to be sung to the "Wheels on the Bus" tune).

What is this 'bus' you speak of?
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: aphexII
Originally posted by: jitspoe
A song with a lot of bass would probably do that trick. I didn't have any particular song in mind. (Btw, for those who didn't catch it, that post was supposed to be sung to the "Wheels on the Bus" tune).

What is this 'bus' you speak of?

jerome bettis i think
 

Pacfanweb

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They must have a different way of measuring wattage for car audio stuff. Does anyone really believe that thing has a true 6000 watts?

The highest dollar home stereo, which can eat that car stuff for lunch has under 1000 watts. McIntosh makes a mono, 1000 watt amp. You buy one for each channel. They are several thousand dollars each. They weigh about 90 lbs.

And that little car amp has 6000 watts? Right. Got to be a different rating system.
 

Pastore

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
They must have a different way of measuring wattage for car audio stuff. Does anyone really believe that thing has a true 6000 watts?

The highest dollar home stereo, which can eat that car stuff for lunch has under 1000 watts. McIntosh makes a mono, 1000 watt amp. You buy one for each channel. They are several thousand dollars each. They weigh about 90 lbs.

And that little car amp has 6000 watts? Right. Got to be a different rating system.

You say you know nothing about car audio yet you say it's impossible for a car amp to have 6000 watts? You are commenting on something you know nothing about. And you are comparing apples to oranges when speaking between home/car audio.
 

BillGates

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
They must have a different way of measuring wattage for car audio stuff. Does anyone really believe that thing has a true 6000 watts?

The highest dollar home stereo, which can eat that car stuff for lunch has under 1000 watts. McIntosh makes a mono, 1000 watt amp. You buy one for each channel. They are several thousand dollars each. They weigh about 90 lbs.

And that little car amp has 6000 watts? Right. Got to be a different rating system.

Different voltages and amperage I think, there are amps pushing over 1000 watts (real) (mostly peak) power all over car audio.

Car stereos are made to play loud - expensive home audio is meant to be loud but mostly focuses on sound quality.

*Don't forget the 10,000+ watt amps that sell at WalMart and on eBay for $39.99 or less! It's amazing that these companies have found a way to produce such insane numbers when other amps sell for hundreds of dollars more and can only brag about pushing a small percentage of what these incredible units do.*
 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
They must have a different way of measuring wattage for car audio stuff. Does anyone really believe that thing has a true 6000 watts?

The highest dollar home stereo, which can eat that car stuff for lunch has under 1000 watts. McIntosh makes a mono, 1000 watt amp. You buy one for each channel. They are several thousand dollars each. They weigh about 90 lbs.

And that little car amp has 6000 watts? Right. Got to be a different rating system.

You say you know nothing about car audio yet you say it's impossible for a car amp to have 6000 watts? You are commenting on something you know nothing about. And you are comparing apples to oranges when speaking between home/car audio.

I said nothing of the sort, and thanks for not answering the question. What I'm questioning is how they measure the wattage? If you don't know, then shut up and let someone who does answer.
I've seen car stuff for years, even little bitty equalizer-amp combos claim outrageous watt ratings. What I want to know is, can that amp truly put out 6000 watts, continuously?
If it is apples/oranges, as you said, then are you implying that the DO rate them differently? Because if they don't, them I'm calling BS. If a car amp, running off 12 volts can put our 6000 watts CONTINOUSLY, not by the old bogus "rms" way, then I simply don't believe it. There is no way an amp that small can out-perform a home amp that runs off 120v. And I challenge anyone to show me a Best Buy or Circuit City ad for a home amp that puts our 500 watts per channel, much less 6000.

Like I said, got to be a different rating system. Can someone clarify?

 

Pacfanweb

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Originally posted by: BillGates
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
They must have a different way of measuring wattage for car audio stuff. Does anyone really believe that thing has a true 6000 watts?

The highest dollar home stereo, which can eat that car stuff for lunch has under 1000 watts. McIntosh makes a mono, 1000 watt amp. You buy one for each channel. They are several thousand dollars each. They weigh about 90 lbs.

And that little car amp has 6000 watts? Right. Got to be a different rating system.

Different voltages and amperage I think, there are amps pushing over 1000 watts (real) (mostly peak) power all over car audio.

Car stereos are made to play loud - expensive home audio is meant to be loud but mostly focuses on sound quality.

*Don't forget the 10,000+ watt amps that sell at WalMart and on eBay for $39.99 or less! It's amazing that these companies have found a way to produce such insane numbers when other amps sell for hundreds of dollars more and can only brag about pushing a small percentage of what these incredible units do.*


Thanks for an actual intelligent answer. Yeah, I've seen those el-cheapo, flea market amps that have outrageous wattage claims.....I guess what they don't tell you is that rating is probably for a nanosecond peak, with 99% distortion, and the amp can REALLY put out about 25 watts on a continous basis.

I want so see proof that that amp can pump 6000 watts CONTINOUSLY. Not just a peak.
 

BillGates

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A lot of car audio crap is run at .5 or 1 ohm, which pushes a lot more wattage through a speaker than an 8ohm home theater amp. I'm pretty sure 6000 watts is possible with the right batteries, alternators, etc....though I don't know if the finished car will end up as a daily driver.

Car audio is a real shady business in my opinion because everybody is hawking their stuff as being the best. In the end there is probably a handful of companies that you should really trust. The rest are rebadged crap year after year.
 

Mrburns2007

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Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Originally posted by: Beast1284
Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
They must have a different way of measuring wattage for car audio stuff. Does anyone really believe that thing has a true 6000 watts?

The highest dollar home stereo, which can eat that car stuff for lunch has under 1000 watts. McIntosh makes a mono, 1000 watt amp. You buy one for each channel. They are several thousand dollars each. They weigh about 90 lbs.

And that little car amp has 6000 watts? Right. Got to be a different rating system.

You say you know nothing about car audio yet you say it's impossible for a car amp to have 6000 watts? You are commenting on something you know nothing about. And you are comparing apples to oranges when speaking between home/car audio.

I said nothing of the sort, and thanks for not answering the question. What I'm questioning is how they measure the wattage? If you don't know, then shut up and let someone who does answer.
I've seen car stuff for years, even little bitty equalizer-amp combos claim outrageous watt ratings. What I want to know is, can that amp truly put out 6000 watts, continuously?
If it is apples/oranges, as you said, then are you implying that the DO rate them differently? Because if they don't, them I'm calling BS. If a car amp, running off 12 volts can put our 6000 watts CONTINOUSLY, not by the old bogus "rms" way, then I simply don't believe it. There is no way an amp that small can out-perform a home amp that runs off 120v. And I challenge anyone to show me a Best Buy or Circuit City ad for a home amp that puts our 500 watts per channel, much less 6000.

Like I said, got to be a different rating system. Can someone clarify?

In the amp world there is differences in the class of operation.

*Class A considered to be the best sounding but requires a huge hot running design that is really inefficent. (McIntosh)

*Class D amp is smaller and cooler running and is very efficient.

To get a Class A amp to put out a lot of wattage it needs to be huge in order to stay cool enough some amps weigh 100 pounds or more.

A Class D or other effecient designs can weigh 30-40 pounds and put out 1,000's of watts because there transistors are switched on and off so they don't get as hot.


JBL had designed a new type of amp that didn't need an output stage, it simply modulated the input voltage. It is super effecient very small and cool running and best of all affordable. The only downside to the design was that it didn't have a wide frequency bandwidth which isn't important when you only want to drive subs.

So yes they can build an amp that can put out 6,000 of watts continous.

BTW: the amp is rated at 6,000 RMS and 10,000 peak, the JBL 1200.1 was rated at 1200 watts and when they measured it it put out 1400 watts so I would believe the claim of 6,000 watts:)

 

Evadman

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RMS is just .707 ( 70.7% ) of peak. RMS stands for Root Mean Squared.