599 shot in Chicago YTD. Must be that white nationalist threat I hear so much about here. Wait scratch that...

[fskimospy]

It has a plenty high murder rate and is a sizable city. But yet, other cities (especially blue ones) demonstrate how white nationalism is even more so just a drop in the bucket despite the left and this plenty in this forum pushing it as some kind of ultimate threat minorities face. It is far more dangerous for them to live in a Democrat big city.

By that logic the same holds true for Islamic terrorism and yet you were a big supporter of Trump’s Muslim ban.

You did not think this through, haha.

 

[K1052]

You did not think this through, haha.

This describes most of the OP's threads/posts.

 

[soulcougher73]

/thread

Guys.. i said "/thread" in post #3. Why are we on post #27? lol

 

[SlowSpyder]

Conservative values like banging pornstars while your third wife is giving birth to your child? Like hanging around malls at the age of 35 trolling for 15-year-old girls? Like playing the rusty trombone in between attempts to take rights away from homosexuals? Like forcing poor people to give birth to children they can't afford? Sounds like a solid plan you have there. I'll let our liberal overlords know to stop telling people to join gangs and do drugs, and stop the presses on our new batch of posters promoting deadbeat dads. Another day, another Democrat politician celebrating violence, amirite?

No, like celebrating family, stop celebrating a culture of violence, dad's being in their kids' lives, real upward mobility through work and reinforcing that getting a job is better than slinging rocks, getting along despite our differences (liberals just want everyone to fit nicely into victimhood containers), etc. Not whatever individual outliers you think you're making a point with.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Guys.. i said "/thread" in post #3. Why are we on post #27? lol

Because you and vic routinely don't make points anymore, you just make troll posts. The rest of us are trying to have a conversation.

 

[Commodus]

No, like celebrating family, stop celebrating a culture of violence, dad's being in their kids' lives, real upward mobility through work and reinforcing that getting a job is better than slinging rocks, getting along despite our differences (liberals just want everyone to fit nicely into victimhood containers), etc. Not whatever individual outliers you think you're making a point with.

"Celebrating family," from the guy who cheerleads for a President who cheated on all three of his wives, probably raped one of them, and has implied more than once he'd like to bang his daughter. Good, wholesome family values there.

I also find it highly ironic that you want to "stop celebrating a culture of violence" yet are a textbook gun fetishist. Maybe, just maybe, the US' obsession with guns is why there's a culture of violence?

 

[SlowSpyder]

"Celebrating family," from the guy who cheerleads for a President who cheated on all three of his wives, probably raped one of them, and has implied more than once he'd like to bang his daughter. Good, wholesome family values there.

I also find it highly ironic that you want to "stop celebrating a culture of violence" yet are a textbook gun fetishist. Maybe, just maybe, the US' obsession with guns is why there's a culture of violence?

I didn't say Trump was a shining example. I'm saying that is what urban minority communities need to embrace. The vast majority of guns in this country (some 300 million) are never used for violence, mine included. I do enjoy putting a lot of holes in paper with them, though. Guns are objects, they are not violent in nature, no more than an ax, screw driver, or a knife is violent. It is all about the person holding the tool, not the tool.

 

[DrunkenSano]

Chicago is I think the 10th worst city on homicide per 100k people? Not the worst but still not good, it's just that this particular city has been in the media spotlight for so long. There are other cities out there as well with horrid numbers, Baltimore and St. Louis for example. There isn't any easy solution out there to fix these problem cities without overwhelming use of force that no one would approve. You would need to set a hard limit on how bad a city can get before the national guard is sent in force, house to house sweep, pick up anyone with outstanding warrants, weapons that are not registered or legally permitted, confiscate and destroy those weapons. A forceful and hard cleaning. But that option is like pressing the launch nuke button and would never fly int his country.

 

[soulcougher73]

I didn't say Trump was a shining example. I'm saying that is what urban minority communities need to embrace. The vast majority of guns in this country (some 300 million) are never used for violence, mine included. I do enjoy putting a lot of holes in paper with them, though. Guns are objects, they are not violent in nature, no more than an ax, screw driver, or a knife is violent. It is all about the person holding the tool, not the tool.

It's both. Some tools are way more deadly than others. Easier to use, inflict more damage, etc. (lll take the guy attacking us with the screw driver over the AR-15 for $500, Alex) Some people are more nutty and deadlier than other Then their are societal/political factors at play as well.

 

[fskimospy]

Chicago is I think the 10th worst city on homicide per 100k people? Not the worst but still not good, it's just that this particular city has been in the media spotlight for so long. There are other cities out there as well with horrid numbers, Baltimore and St. Louis for example. There isn't any easy solution out there to fix these problem cities without overwhelming use of force that no one would approve. You would need to set a hard limit on how bad a city can get before the national guard is sent in force, house to house sweep, pick up anyone with outstanding warrants, weapons that are not registered or legally permitted, confiscate and destroy those weapons. A forceful and hard cleaning. But that option is like pressing the launch nuke button and would never fly int his country.

Last time I checked it was #24 in homicide rate. The issue is that Chicago is a very large city so the absolute numbers are much higher than smaller, more dangerous cities.

Regardless, doesn’t change the fact of Spidey’s duplicitous hypocrisy. When brown people commit acts of terrorism Spidey supports Trump’s Muslim ban. When white people commit acts of terrorism Spidey says it doesn’t matter because of brown people in Chicago.

 

[Commodus]

I didn't say Trump was a shining example. I'm saying that is what urban minority communities need to embrace. The vast majority of guns in this country (some 300 million) are never used for violence, mine included. I do enjoy putting a lot of holes in paper with them, though. Guns are objects, they are not violent in nature, no more than an ax, screw driver, or a knife is violent. It is all about the person holding the tool, not the tool.

So why do you worship a man who's the exact opposite of the values you supposedly want to promote?

And guns are designed explicitly for violence. You need a person behind them, but it's a hell of a lot easier to kill people with "objects" designed to kill people. The Las Vegas shooter certainly didn't murder 58 people and injure 422 with a screwdriver.

 

[Greenman]

You guys realize Chicago isn’t even in the top 20 cities for murder rate, right?

Thank God for that, I thought they had a real problem. Knowing that this is a perfectly normal slaughter rate relives my concern over the issue.
The question I raised still stands though, what's the magic number that has to be hit before we take action? Or do we just ignore it because it's Chicago and everyone knows how silly those folks are?
Maybe the plan of action is simple attrition? Should we be handing out firearms and amo to everyone? Make it a pure Darwinian solution with a prize for the last thousand people standing?

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

#fuckofftroll

How is this even acceptable etiquette in a supposedly semi serious discussion forum?

 

[fskimospy]

Thank God for that, I thought they had a real problem. Knowing that this is a perfectly normal slaughter rate relives my concern over the issue.

Well it seems your concern would be better placed in the roughly two dozen cities that have higher homicide rates, no? I mean the murder rate in St. Louis is almost three times higher yet we don't see endless think pieces about that.

The question I raised still stands though, what's the magic number that has to be hit before we take action? Or do we just ignore it because it's Chicago and everyone knows how silly those folks are?
Maybe the plan of action is simple attrition? Should we be handing out firearms and amo to everyone? Make it a pure Darwinian solution with a prize for the last thousand people standing?

Chicago’s murder rate today is below what it had in the 90's and has steadily decreased for the last two years.

As for taking action what would you do, exactly? We could of course take the tried and true policy of gun control but conservatives won’t do that.

 

[dank69]

How is this even acceptable etiquette in a supposedly semi serious discussion forum?

Sorry, we'll try to keep it to serious discussions like how expressing sympathy for Easter worshipers is an attack on Christians.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Sorry, we'll try to keep it to serious discussions like how expressing sympathy for Easter worshipers is an attack on Christians.

I thought I made it clear I was referring to the bombings?

 

[TheVrolok]

How is this even acceptable etiquette in a supposedly semi serious discussion forum?

Well, there's nothing serious about the intent of the OP. He's distraction trolling. He is incredibly intellectually dishonest at all times. There's no value in "discussion" with him.

 

[dank69]

I thought I made it clear I was referring to the bombings?

You made it clear that you were upset that filthy liberals called it an attack on Easter worshipers instead of an attack on Christians. That is some serious snowflake shit. You might be a closet sissy liberal. Hopefully it isn't too late to pray it away.

 

[K1052]

Thank God for that, I thought they had a real problem. Knowing that this is a perfectly normal slaughter rate relives my concern over the issue.
The question I raised still stands though, what's the magic number that has to be hit before we take action? Or do we just ignore it because it's Chicago and everyone knows how silly those folks are?
Maybe the plan of action is simple attrition? Should we be handing out firearms and amo to everyone? Make it a pure Darwinian solution with a prize for the last thousand people standing?

Maybe people who didn't give a care about us when things were much much worse but now are paying attention because the GOP decided we're a cautionary example of "liberal rule" should fuck off.

 

[HomerJS]

No, like celebrating family, stop celebrating a culture of violence, dad's being in their kids' lives, real upward mobility through work and reinforcing that getting a job is better than slinging rocks, getting along despite our differences (liberals just want everyone to fit nicely into victimhood containers), etc. Not whatever individual outliers you think you're making a point with.

Just to highlight your feigned concern, does the culture of violence include the celebrating gun culture?

After all suicide by gun exceeds homicide by gun every year.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

You made it clear that you were upset that filthy liberals called it an attack on Easter worshipers instead of an attack on Christians. That is some serious snowflake shit. You might be a closet sissy liberal. Hopefully it isn't too late to pray it away.

It's just a symptom of a much bigger issue. When we can't call something for what it is then there is a huge problem. The Islamic terrorists are targeting Christian People. Not Easter worshippers.

 

[Puffnstuff]

https://heyjackass.com/#

Good site to keep up on the violence in Democrat stronghold Chicago. I hear on this forum how white nationalism is potentially the biggest threat we face today. How many of those shootings do you believe were white nationalists?

I see some different numbers for the year.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/data/ct-shooting-victims-map-charts-htmlstory.html
https://www.massshootingtracker.org/data

 

[fskimospy]

It's just a symptom of a much bigger issue. When we can't call something for what it is then there is a huge problem. The Islamic terrorists are targeting Christian People. Not Easter worshippers.

I don't remember similar outrage when people on the Hajj were targeted by terrorist attacks and the news stories referred to them as 'pilgrims' instead of 'Muslims'.

You guys seriously need to grow some thicker skin and not try to be constant victims. There is not a conspiracy by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to hide the fact that the victims here were Christian. If there were, they made a really big mistake by mentioning they were worshiping Easter as approximately 100% of Easter worshipers are Christian.

 

[tweaker2]

Chicago gun deaths? Well I think a total ban on firearms nationwide together with the death penalty or lifetime in a federal pen if in possession of, having any part(s) of, having any gunpowder, casings, bullets, assembled ammunition or having even mentioning possession thereof to any person authorized by the federal gov't as deputized informants along with educating citizens from childhood about the evils of possessing firearms.

Point being, those folks who point to certain strongholds of such and such party as being rife with gun deaths so as to make political hay about it have a choice of either giving up all firearms with overly strict laws to get rid of that problem or just STFU and blame themselves for pushing for more and more "liberal" laws that make things so much easier to purchase firearms and have those firearms, in one way or another, end up in the possession of those folks who shouldn't have them.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Chicago gun deaths? Well I think a total ban on firearms nationwide together with the death penalty or lifetime in a federal pen if in possession of, having any part(s) of, having any gunpowder, casings, bullets, assembled ammunition or having even mentioning possession thereof to any person authorized by the federal gov't as deputized informants along with educating citizens from childhood about the evils of possessing firearms.

Point being, those folks who point to certain strongholds of such and such party as being rife with gun deaths so as to make political hay about it have a choice of either giving up all firearms with overly strict laws to get rid of that problem or just STFU and blame themselves for pushing for more and more "liberal" laws that make things so much easier to purchase firearms and have those firearms, in one way or another, end up in the possession of those folks who shouldn't have them.

Sure, if we could get rid of guns then there'd be fewer gun deaths, that stands to reason. But, we don't simply do away with rights because they carry danger. Take smoking for instance, second hand smoke kills far more innocent people than firearm homicides, it isn't even close. But, we don't totally ban smoking, we allow it despite the risk to society it carries because in America we cherish freedom and individual liberties. If having too many rights scares you might I recommend a country like North Korea as more fitting, perhaps?