5900 ultra vs 9800 pro Review

[Corporate Thug]

**puts flame suit on**




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"And the winner is.........The FIC ATi Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB. We compared these cards in every category we could think of and in the end, we saw better performance overall from the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro. Did the FX 5900 fail to impress us? No, not at all. We believe both cards are worthy of any good system but we do have to tip our hats to the excellent performance that the Radeon 9800 Pro has showed us here today".

 

[Regs]

And a hundred dollars cheaper, no doubt.

 

[ginfest]

Actually the review shows the 256MB FX as $499.00 and the 128MB 9800 Pro as $399.00. There is also a $499.00 256MB 9800 Pro and a $399.00 128MB FX
Also, looking thru the actual benches shown in the review rather than just the "conclusion", it's really too close to call.
I've got my $300.00 (self-imposed limit) ready and was leaning to the 9800np but now I see the 128MB FX starting to be available for $388.00 (Newegg) or so and figure by the end of July that will go down closer to my limit.
Then it's decision time.

Mike G

 

[squidman]

Heh...still easier to get a 9700 pro and oc it...

 

[Vonkhan]

:evil:

 

[Blastman]

You would think these hardware sites would know by now that Nvidia is cheating on 3Dmark2003 and ShaderMark.

 

[Schadenfroh]

comon guys, we have been overthis a thousand times already

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Ginfest
Actually the review shows the 256MB FX as $499.00 and the 128MB 9800 Pro as $399.00. There is also a $499.00 256MB 9800 Pro and a $399.00 128MB FX
Also, looking thru the actual benches shown in the review rather than just the "conclusion", it's really too close to call.
I've got my $300.00 (self-imposed limit) ready and was leaning to the 9800np but now I see the 128MB FX starting to be available for $388.00 (Newegg) or so and figure by the end of July that will go down closer to my limit.
Then it's decision time.

Mike G

it's close but not to close too close to call. 9800pro outperforms 5900 ultra most of the time

 

[Tab]

/me waits for R360 and NV4x

 

[Regs]

I'll wait for Anand to get a hold of some retail cards to review. I don't really trust sites like those who seem to side too often with their fan base.

It seems like they added more benchmarks then needed just to show where ATI takes the edge a little. Their conclusion also seemed very vague why they liked the 9800 pro over the 5900 ultra from other than a few frames.

What Nvidia needs to do is produce a 128 MB version and quick, no way in hell would I pay an extra 100 dollars for worthless ram.

 

[BenSkywalker]

This comment on 3DM2K1 seemed amusing-

Here we see that the R9800 Pro dominates the FX 5900 at 2x/8x AA/AF but not at 4x/8x.

The R9800Pro dominates winning by 285 points, but loses the higher settings by 609 points and 'isn't dominating' to paraphrase? And in the conclusion-

3DMark 01 SE Build 330 - R9800 Pro - The R9800 takes top honors with this tried and true synthetic benchmark

Interesting how they come to that conclusion based on what they state. It would have also been nice if they played the games they tested a bit. As an example-

Splinter Cell - R9800 Pro - Hands down, the R9800 takes it in this awesome game from UBISoft

R9800 can't run the highest quality settings in SplinterCell, only nV boards can(due to its XBox roots, certain functions not available directly through the API are exposed which ATi's chips can't handle).

Other problems- ShaderMark does not function properly on nVidia boards right now. The results are misleading as the R9800Pro actually probably should have been considerably faster in relation to the NV35. Also, is it listed anywhere which drivers they used?

 

[Corporate Thug]

Also, is it listed anywhere which drivers they used?

page 2: NVIDIA Detonator FX 44.03's used for 5900

ATI Catalyst 3.5's used for 9800 Pro

 

[MistaTastyCakes]

You would think these hardware sites would know by now that Nvidia is cheating on 3Dmark2003 and ShaderMark.

OMG! Breaking news!

 

[Blastman]

Originally posted by: MistaTastyCakes

You would think these hardware sites would know by now that Nvidia is cheating on 3Dmark2003 and ShaderMark.

OMG! Breaking news!

Must be to harware sites like ocaddiction.com.

 

[nRollo]

And breaking non-news at that- 3dmark themselves said nVidia wasn't cheating.

<waits for bleats of "nVidia paid off FutureMark! Waaah!>

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Rollo
And breaking non-news at that- 3dmark themselves said nVidia wasn't cheating.

<waits for bleats of "nVidia paid off FutureMark! Waaah!>

 

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by: Blastman
You would think these hardware sites would know by now that Nvidia is cheating on 3Dmark2003 and ShaderMark.

Do you know how sick and tired everybody is of hearing this from you? Yes, everybody in the free world knows that you think nVidia is cheating. You can get off your horse now.

 

[Ketchup]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker
R9800 can't run the highest quality settings in SplinterCell, only nV boards can(due to its XBox roots, certain functions not available directly through the API are exposed which ATi's chips can't handle).

Hmm. I did not know this, but am not surprised. I know ATI made a couple unnoticable improvements with the 9800, but all in all, the 9800 is pretty much the same architecture as the 9700, so this is probably the sign of things to come for the 9800 PRO.

 

[Blastman]

Originally posted by: ketchup79

.... everybody in the free world knows that you think nVidia is cheating. You can get off your horse now.

Really? I didn't know that. :Q