Question 5800X3D, "shipped and sold by Newegg", now nearly $430, from $320. Interesting pricing updates for Zen3.

[VirtualLarry]

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

This price increase for April can't be good for enthusiasts. Guess inflation is finally hitting PC parts. It may be time to invest in gold and silver, rather than RTX.

Edit: Ryzen 5 5500 also increased in price to $159.00, from around $99.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

$327 now.

 

[Markfw]

$312

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d-ryzen-7-5000-series/p/N82E16819113734?Description=5800x3d&cm_re=5800x3d-_-19-113-734-_-Product&quicklink=true

But shipped and sold by JS CPU.

Who cares about newegg sold by.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Who cares about newegg sold by.

Because that's the "real" current price of the CPU, not counting any fly-by-night resellers.

They (AMD) may be doing this, because of the impending release of the 7800X3D, and they don't want to lose sales momentum with their 7000-series X3D chips, to their (previously) cheaply-priced brother in the 5000-series / Zen3 lineup.

 

[Ajay]

$319.99 @ Microcenter. Was $20 cheaper last week as I was mulling over buying one.

 

[Markfw]

Because that's the "real" current price of the CPU, not counting any fly-by-night resellers.

They (AMD) may be doing this, because of the impending release of the 7800X3D, and they don't want to lose sales momentum with their 7000-series X3D chips, to their (previously) cheaply-priced brother in the 5000-series / Zen3 lineup.

when newegg is fronting it, those others are not fly-by-night. Newegg does that when they have none in stock themselves, so if somebody wants one, they get it from the other reseller. Nobody will spend the extra money, so thats why they do it IMO

 

[Abwx]

Price didnt change in Germany and is at its lowest since ages at 310-330€ including 19% VAT, guess that in early 2024 it will still sell decently for a 4 years old CPU.

That being said it s curious that it s still the best seller among all AMD CPUs, not sure that it s only due to gamers, historically CPUs with big caches were quite successfull due to apparent better responsivness and quite longer life cycle.

 

[Mopetar]

Even if that were the market price across retailers I'd view it as a sign of greatly diminished supply as opposed to inflation. If it were inflation we should be seeing increases across the board.

As others have pointed out this isn't any kind of market-wide price increase, at least not at such significant levels as suggested in the OP. As the kids would say, this is a nothingburger.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Even if that were the market price across retailers I'd view it as a sign of greatly diminished supply as opposed to inflation. If it were inflation we should be seeing increases across the board.

AMD did say they were "undershipping the channel" didn't they?

 

[Golgatha]

$319.99 @ Microcenter. Was $20 cheaper last week as I was mulling over buying one.

Might be due to local supply being listed as 25+ currently, but the 5800X3D at the Overland Park, KS, Micro Center is still $299.99.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Amazon and Platinum Micro are both listing the 3D for $340. This is Newegg shenanigans. As most of the Zen 3 shipped and sold by Newegg are sticker shock prices today.

There is some price creep at Amazon too. Not as bad, but somewhat terrible compared to 6 months ago. With spring break over, perhaps this is a price run up while things are slow. That way come summer break in 8-10 weeks, the old prices will look like hot deals again.

 

[Mopetar]

AMD did say they were "undershipping the channel" didn't they?

I'd direct you to the thread where that's been discussed to death and how badly misconstrued Lisa's words were.

 

[Ajay]

Might be due to local supply being listed as 25+ currently, but the 5800X3D at the Overland Park, KS, Micro Center is still $299.99.

Yeah, I think it was user error (maybe I was looking at the 5900X). The 5800X3D is still $299.99.

 

[DrMrLordX]

AMD isn't going to continue manufacturing AM4 CPUs forever. Eventually they will run out. It's just a matter of when.

 

[Abwx]

AMD isn't going to continue manufacturing AM4 CPUs forever. Eventually they will run out. It's just a matter of when.

AMD stated that AM4 will last years after AM5 is released, 7nm based 4300G/5600G/5700G APUs and 5800X3D will keep being competitive perf/watt wise for the foreseeable future.

For AM4 being phased out they need first to cover the whole price range within AM5, wich mean APUs/CPUs starting at 90-100$, and this wont happen before mid 2024 at best.

 

[A///]

AMD is not going to kill a money maker like zen 3 anytime soon. don't look at newegg. Look at amazon. greater reach and more warehouses for product.

 

[coercitiv]

FYI, the local shops in my EU country are selling the 5800X3D for ~$355 VAT included. Remove the VAT and that put the US equivalent price at ~$296. Historically speaking, my market has slightly higher prices over US pricing (when ignoring VAT), and yet CPU prices are at an all-time low for many SKUs.

Also, I find it very hard to understand why Newegg is supposed to be used as some kind of barometer for national or even worldwide trends.

 

[DrMrLordX]

AMD stated that AM4 will last years after AM5 is released, 7nm based 4300G/5600G/5700G APUs and 5800X3D will keep being competitive perf/watt wise for the foreseeable future.

For AM4 being phased out they need first to cover the whole price range within AM5, wich mean APUs/CPUs starting at 90-100$, and this wont happen before mid 2024 at best.

That may well be true, but that doesn't contradict anything I said.

NewEgg may be on their own stupid little mission to alienate people. Who knows what they're doing? But you shouldn't expect an infinite supply of 5800X3Ds. It is cool that they're still going down in price at most locations though.

 

[WelshBloke]

I bet the demand for high end AM4 chips is very high. Theres a bunch of people on AM4 that are going to upgrade to the best that they can get to now that nothing new is coming for that socket. That's certainly what I have done.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I bet the demand for high end AM4 chips is very high. Theres a bunch of people on AM4 that are going to upgrade to the best that they can get to now that nothing new is coming for that socket. That's certainly what I have done.

It would be kind of nice if AMD would come out with a 5950X3D at some point. It's probably not going to happen, but maybe it could.

 

[Markfw]

I don't know why this sensationalist thread had to happen. Today there is no "sold and shipped by newegg" at all for this chip and its only seller on the main page is $660. But other sellers are like $400 or less and there is a link that ends up at amazon for $320. Its all about what in stock at the time.

 

[WelshBloke]

It would be kind of nice if AMD would come out with a 5950X3D at some point. It's probably not going to happen, but maybe it could.

I think that they are done with AM4 now. Can't blame them for it, it had a good run!

 

[coercitiv]

It would be kind of nice if AMD would come out with a 5950X3D at some point. It's probably not going to happen, but maybe it could.

They could do just one sample and call it 5950DrMrLordX3D. The recipient would be obvious I hope.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I think that they are done with AM4 now. Can't blame them for it, it had a good run!

You don't kill the golden goose. Zen 3 and AM4 boards have dominated retail sales here in the U.S. for over a year now. I expect we will see supply until there are many more cheap AM5 boards at the very least. Gives time for DDR5 to get even cheaper too.

This is the pricing fluctuations and supply issues retailers often have. I presume the margins on AM4 hardware are pretty good at this point, and the high volume doesn't hurt. Hell, Newegg may be manipulating things to sell some of those 12th gen CPUs that they are oversupplied on. Every industry report I read, stated 12th underperformed in sales vs expectations, so it fits with that.

 

[WelshBloke]

You don't kill the golden goose. Zen 3 and AM4 boards have dominated retail sales here in the U.S. for over a year now. I expect we will see supply until there are many more cheap AM5 boards at the very least. Gives time for DDR5 to get even cheaper too.

This is the pricing fluctuations and supply issues retailers often have. I presume the margins on AM4 hardware are pretty good at this point, and the high volume doesn't hurt. Hell, Newegg may be manipulating things to sell some of those 12th gen CPUs that they are oversupplied on. Every industry report I read, stated 12th underperformed in sales vs expectations, so it fits with that.

Oh I didn't mean that they wouldn't supply existing models just that I doubt that anything new will come out.
TBH a 5800x3d and a 7900xt should be enough for anything for awhile on the AMD side!

 

[DrMrLordX]

They could do just one sample and call it 5950DrMrLordX3D. The recipient would be obvious I hope.

LOL if they did that, I would have no board to put it in, since I'll be retiring my AM4 system soon. If they want bespoke CPUs then I recommend the 3600x2 Kocicak edition!

You don't kill the golden goose. Zen 3 and AM4 boards have dominated retail sales here in the U.S. for over a year now. I expect we will see supply until there are many more cheap AM5 boards at the very least. Gives time for DDR5 to get even cheaper too.

This is the pricing fluctuations and supply issues retailers often have. I presume the margins on AM4 hardware are pretty good at this point, and the high volume doesn't hurt. Hell, Newegg may be manipulating things to sell some of those 12th gen CPUs that they are oversupplied on. Every industry report I read, stated 12th underperformed in sales vs expectations, so it fits with that.

It really depends on how long AMD wants to keep taking N7-family wafers in significant volume. They'll still take at least a few for warranty/contract replacements.