5800k or 3220?

[Rickyyy369]

Im working on putting together something new for my dad whose motherboard recently bit the dust and Im stuck on deciding between these two processors.

Im leaning more towards the 5800k because I feel like it would give him a more well-rounded system, with good multi-tasking performance, "good enough" single threaded, and all the video performance he would ever need for years to come.

But the i3 3220 does have woefully better single-threaded performance, and all he ever really does is surf the internet, watch youtube and netflix, and some HD movies and some word processing. So maybe the dual, hyperthreaded cores of the 3220 would do just fine, while also sipping less power?

I've been flip-flopping between these two for the past week so maybe some outside input would help me make a clearer decision. What do you guys think? 5800k or 3220.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Im working on putting together something new for my dad whose motherboard recently bit the dust and Im stuck on deciding between these two processors.

Im leaning more towards the 5800k because I feel like it would give him a more well-rounded system, with good multi-tasking performance, "good enough" single threaded, and all the video performance he would ever need for years to come.

But the i3 3220 does have woefully better single-threaded performance, and all he ever really does is surf the internet, watch youtube and netflix, and some HD movies and some word processing. So maybe the dual, hyperthreaded cores of the 3220 would do just fine, while also sipping less power?

I've been flip-flopping between these two for the past week so maybe some outside input would help me make a clearer decision. What do you guys think? 5800k or 3220.

Go with the i3. And if you need to later on, add in a low power discrete GPU. Better to go with the platform that has room to run/be upgraded than to max yourself out right away.

 

[Torn Mind]

5800K. Better GPU so you can use the savings on an SSD or anything else. Web browsing can spawn a ton of processes if you use Chrome with a ton of tabs.

 

[Hubb1e]

Both use similar amounts of power at light load and idle, so there is no savings in going with the i3 vs the 5800k. Either are good choices. Go with whatever you want as I don't think you'll see much difference between them in daily use espeically if he's not playings games.

 

[Centauri]

I'd say the 5800K, or even better the 5700 to save some juice. Not only is FM2 behaving very maturely after having spent 6 months in OEM hands before hitting retail, but the next few generations of APUs are already confirmed to continue using it.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Both use similar amounts of power at light load and idle, so there is no savings in going with the i3 vs the 5800k. Either are good choices. Go with whatever you want as I don't think you'll see much difference between them in daily use espeically if he's not playings games.

I agree, either of these would do the job. Even a pentium would probably suffice as well, but you would only save maybe 40.00 or so and that seems minimal for an entire system which should last for several years.

Edit: on newegg pentium g860 is 70 dollars and either of the other 2 processors are 120.00 plus, so actually 50.00 savings,-- not bad actually.

 

[AtenRa]

Im working on putting together something new for my dad whose motherboard recently bit the dust and Im stuck on deciding between these two processors.

Im leaning more towards the 5800k because I feel like it would give him a more well-rounded system, with good multi-tasking performance, "good enough" single threaded, and all the video performance he would ever need for years to come.

But the i3 3220 does have woefully better single-threaded performance, and all he ever really does is surf the internet, watch youtube and netflix, and some HD movies and some word processing. So maybe the dual, hyperthreaded cores of the 3220 would do just fine, while also sipping less power?

I've been flip-flopping between these two for the past week so maybe some outside input would help me make a clearer decision. What do you guys think? 5800k or 3220.

99% of the Trinity reviews never covered the Video features of the APU. I would choose the A8-5600K, it will be the best choice for his needs.

 

[Hubb1e]

I'd say the 5800K, or even better the 5700 to save some juice. Not only is FM2 behaving very maturely after having spent 6 months in OEM hands before hitting retail, but the next few generations of APUs are already confirmed to continue using it.

The 5700 only saves juice on full load. At normal workloads for an office machine there won't be any significant difference in power consumption. The lower wattage CPUs are useful for HTPCs and such where you have a thermal design limit, but in a desktop its not a big deal because they can exhast the occational 100W load.

 

[Centauri]

And yet when the 5800K is set to voltages similar to the 5700, it consumes significantly less power at load...

 

[NTMBK]

I'd say 5800k. Apps are tending towards more threads over time, especially tasks like managing spreadsheets, watching/decoding video, i.e. anything intensive which your father is likely to do. The only common intensive task that I'm aware of requiring strong single threaded performance is gaming. As such, I'd value the better multithreaded performance of the A10.

I would also say however that an SSD would be the best improvement that you could give him. Faster start up times and faster program launches, these are things people really value in a new PC. (Not to mention I doubt he will be filling his drive with game installs or pirated TV, so he shouldn't mind the drop in capacity.)

 

[Dark Shroud]

Just get the 5800k so you won't need a video card. By the time a video card is needed you can just upgrade the whole APU for better performance all the way around.

 

[parvadomus]

For that needs 5800K, its just better than i3 in every single way, but single threading performance (and not by much, i3 dont even have turbo core).
Later you may upgrade to Kaveri, that should be on par with a low i5 but with very very fast graphics.

 

[frozentundra123456]

For that needs 5800K, its just better than i3 in every single way, but single threading performance (and not by much, i3 dont even have turbo core).
Later you may upgrade to Kaveri, that should be on par with a low i5 but with very very fast graphics.

The A10 is not that superior to the i3 in multithreaded, maybe only 10 to 20 percent, while in single threaded the i3 is up to 30 percent faster. So I would consider cpu performance a wash, not the clear win for the A10 that you picture it. The A10 has better graphics and somewhat superior multithreaded performance in some apps while the i3 has better single threaded performance and lower power usage. So your statement that the A10 is better "in every single way" is an overstatement. The i3 doesnt really need turbo core: even at a 0.5 mhz clockspeed disadvantage it is much faster than the A10 in single threaded.

 

[sm625]

I gotta recommend the SSD as well. Once a fresh OS install becomes a few months old, the HDD starts to get really bogged down. I personally would much rather use my core 2 E8300 system that I got off ebay for $70 because it has a somewhat decent discrete video card upgrade, and an intel X25M G2. There is nothing under $200 that even comes close to the user experience you get from this machine.

 

[Rvenger]

I'd say the 5800K, or even better the 5700 to save some juice. Not only is FM2 behaving very maturely after having spent 6 months in OEM hands before hitting retail, but the next few generations of APUs are already confirmed to continue using it.

This ... FM2 is a very stable platform with a future ahead of it. 1155 is now a dead end socket.

 

[inf64]

Another plus for 5800K is unlocked multiplier so ~10% more added performance for a slight power draw increase and ability to run hybrid CF with 6670 fro added performance. Note also that 2133Mhz memory brings very noticeable gains in almost all games.

 

[Torn Mind]

The cores of an A10 should be slightly faster than a Core 2 Duo E8xxx core. Having used an E8400 PC myself, I can say that for web browsing the bottleneck is on the hard drive and software(IE loves to become a turtle when pushed to its limits).

 

[NTMBK]

Another plus for 5800K is unlocked multiplier so ~10% more added performance for a slight power draw increase and ability to run hybrid CF with 6670 fro added performance. Note also that 2133Mhz memory brings very noticeable gains in almost all games.

You're really suggesting an overclocked processor and dodgy-driver-Crossfire setup for a PC for his Dad?

 

[Torn Mind]

This ... FM2 is a very stable platform with a future ahead of it. 1155 is now a dead end socket.

A dead end 1155 just means that you cannot add in the next generation CPUs at the same tier, i.e Haswell i3. What you still can do is upgrade from an i3 to an 1155 i7 or i5 rather than get a complete mobo/cpu swap.

FM2 will always be stuck in i3 performance level land because that socket is for processors specifically made for the lower mainstream market. Future i3 equivalents might catch up to current i5s, but that will probably take a couple generations, which is about 2-3 years.

 

[Phynaz]

Go with the 5800k and a multi-threaded web browser (i.e. not Firefox).

 

[inf64]

You're really suggesting an overclocked processor and dodgy-driver-Crossfire setup for a PC for his Dad?

Yeah my fail,I missed the part about for whom he is building it for.

Go with the 5800k and a multi-threaded web browser (i.e. not Firefox).

What current browser has solid MT support? I've been using firefox for ages,might switch if there is a better option.

 

[NTMBK]

Yeah my fail,I missed the part about for whom he is building it for.

What current browser has solid MT support? I've been using firefox for ages,might switch if there is a better option.

I know that Chrome throws around a stupid number of threads, but I'm not sure how well the loading of a single page is parallelised.

 

[Phynaz]

Yeah my fail,I missed the part about for whom he is building it for.

What current browser has solid MT support? I've been using firefox for ages,might switch if there is a better option.

As NTMBK said, Chrome.

 

[inf64]

Thanks I might give it a try. FF has some obscenely high memory usage problems lately,usually playing flash content.

 

[frozentundra123456]

As NTMBK said, Chrome.

Hmm, didnt know that. I have just switched to using it though, and I must say it seem extremely fast.