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5800 Ultra faster than 5900 Ultra?!

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sharkeeper

Lifer
Yes I guess it is when you look at the clockspeeds...

Nevermind the fact the actual performance on the screen is slower...

People are going crazy mad over these things! :Q

I say bring FlowFX back! The (original) cooling system was a work of engineering! (It actually worked despite it being slightly louder than a typical high performance PC) The new cooler just doesn't do the card justice. I'll probably have to buy one of these (5800's) just so I can mount the (dustbuster) on the 5900U! 😛

Isn't it funny how the hardware that turns out to be a turd after all the reviews (bad enough that the manufacturer kills it!) winds up becoming more valuable as time goes on? Another good example (although the hardware wasn't necessarily a turd) was the Iwill MPX2 AMD MP workstation mainboard. People are getting more than what they paid retail for them over a year after they bought them! That is *rare* in this biz...

-DAK-
 
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Well I'll give it a shot what that stands for. No, this isn't the case. I have just as many other cards lying around, not just nVidia based chipset cards!

All I'm saying is if the card is going to take two slots, make it worthwhile and have the ingress/egress for the TMS like the 5800! That's the best design on a peripheral EVER! 90% of noise squawks come from the type of motor (Nidec brushless) used. Put the new motor in the old design and you have a winner! The new motor has no whine or growl, there is just the woosh of turbulence at the highest (POST) speeds. The shroud would likely quiet this somewhat. Of course the 5900's RAM operates much cooler than the 5800.

There are some 5900's that take only one slot but use higher speed fans which are louder than the reference design. They also run hotter on both GPU and memory side. The fans are cheesey and will probably fail in less than a year's use. :| The fan motor on the reference design will far outlast the useful life of the card.

-DAK-
 
There are some 5900's that take only one slot but use higher speed fans which are louder than the reference design. They also run hotter on both GPU and memory side. The fans are
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my albatron takes up 1 slot, although it is cramped, produces only 25db with 2 fans spinning(1800rpm), and keeps the temps very low. Albatron has a unique cooler
 
my albatron takes up 1 slot, although it is cramped, produces only 25db with 2 fans spinning(1800rpm), and keeps the temps very low. Albatron has a unique cooler
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Is this a 5900 Ultra? What does the GPU core temp read under load?

I've seen the Gainward "boombox" design with one fan drawing in and the other discharging out. Cute design, but rather weak thermal management on an engineering level. The risk of recirculation is high and in the case of low circulation retail machines, the escalation of GPU temps to searing (130C) levels is very real. Of course the foldback temp is an incredible 140C! :Q

-DAK-
 
Originally posted by: shuttleteam
my albatron takes up 1 slot, although it is cramped, produces only 25db with 2 fans spinning(1800rpm), and keeps the temps very low. Albatron has a unique cooler
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Is this a 5900 Ultra? What does the GPU core temp read under load?

I've seen the Gainward "boombox" design with one fan drawing in and the other discharging out. Cute design, but rather weak thermal management on an engineering level. The risk of recirculation is high and in the case of low circulation retail machines, the escalation of GPU temps to searing (130C) levels is very real. Of course the foldback temp is an incredible 140C! :Q

-DAK-
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no, non-ultra, but I run it at ultra speeds, and the memory well over ultra speeds. their Ultra version is not out yet, but it will use the same cooling solution. The highest i've ever seen it under load was around 65c

 
actually, I just ran a benchmark, the heat meter was at 70c. They run at the same speed all the time. When you first turn the computer on, all three fans spin up, then it logic chip that sits in the middle the heatsink detects the speed of the fans (the two primary are both RPM monitored) if one of them has failed and it fails to detect an RPM signal, the third backup fans continues to spin
 
Originally posted by: shuttleteam
Sounds like a winner!

Is the non ultra default 2D core fz 300 MHz?

-DAK-
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yah. 2d is 300core/850mem, 3d is 400core/850mem. mine was running 448mhz core and 949mhz memory when I got that 70c temp.
 
Any effective cooling mods appeared for the 5800ultra? Mine will be here friday or saturday and thought he 3D noise levels won't bother me as I play with headphones on I am concerned about the lifespan of the reference cooler. Thanx for any helpful suggestions 🙂
 
Any effective cooling mods appeared for the 5800ultra? Mine will be here friday or saturday and thought he 3D noise levels won't bother me as I play with headphones on I am concerned about the lifespan of the reference cooler. Thanx for any helpful suggestions
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The reference cooler will outlast the useful life expectancy of the card! If you don't find the noise objectionable, you will be fine!

-DAK-
 
LOL! Yeah, yeah, make fun of me 🙁 I knew what I'd be getting though, close to 60db when running 3D :Q My Sennheisers are up to it though and I got a great deal on it. Plus I just wanted it cause it's kind of rare and is actually a fast card 🙂
 
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