5770 or 5850? upgrade for my rig

[netxzero64]

Hello guys... i'm just wondering how would a 5850 or 5770 perform on my rig because the benchmarks here on anandtech use i7 rigs..

as my specs are listed below on my signature, which one of these cards would better perform?

is 5850 will be a bottleneck for my system? or is the 5770 will be much better?

your opinions will be appreciated =) just wanna clear my head before I buy my new card...

 

[toyota]

a 5850 would be fine. btw what res are you playing at?

 

[netxzero64]

@toyota

thanks for the quick reply.. I just play at 1440x900 resolutions, got no money for a larger LCD something like 22" LCDs...

what advice could you give me with regards to video card power related to screen resolutions?

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: netxzero64
@toyota

thanks for the quick reply.. I just play at 1440x900 resolutions, got no money for a larger LCD something like 22" LCDs...

what advice could you give me with regards to video card power related to screen resolutions?

zero point in going with a 5850 for that res. a 5750 or 5770 will be way more than plenty for such a low res. also you have nice pc and you could easily find a 22-23 inch monitor for well under 200 bucks.

 

[netxzero64]

but would a 5770 be still enough for a 22" LCD?

coz i like to play hard, you know all settings at max and maximum resolutions....

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: netxzero64
but would a 5770 be still enough for a 22" LCD?

coz i like to play hard, you know all settings at max and maximum resolutions....

by 22inch do you mean 1680x1050 or 1920x1080? for 1920x1080 I would certainly get the 5850. at 1680x1050 the 5770 would likely be plenty but the 5850 would be fine too since the rest of your system is pretty decent.

 

[netxzero64]

oh sorry.. what i mean is the 1680x1050 resolutions...

well if that's the case then I would consider going for 5770 then... =) thanks bro...

 

[cbn]

We don't know the specs on hd5770 but it might not be a performance/dollar bargain compared to the $260 HD5850.

 

[nemesismk2]

If you ask me it's too early to say because there are no prices for the 5770, it's not been released and we don't know the specs are 100% true. It might be worth considering when it has been released but it's too early to say just yet.

 

[Cheex]

Ya, its a bit too early I think to make that call.
The 5850 would be a "safe" purchase, with a little room for expansion...if you end up with some money to increase your monitor size.
A bit of "future-proofing".

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: Cheex
Ya, its a bit too early I think to make that call.
The 5850 would be a "safe" purchase, with a little room for expansion...if you end up with some money to increase your monitor size.
A bit of "future-proofing".

well if he isnt positively going to upgrade his monitor in the next few months then a 5850 would be silly for just 1440x900. if the 5770 is as fast or faster than a 4890 then that would be plenty for 1440x900 and even a 1680x1050 monitor since that his what he is thinking about getting. really though he should save up and get a 5850 and a 1920x1080 monitor since they are about the same price and 1680x1050 are not even common in stores anymore.

 

[netxzero64]

@toyota

well my plan is to get a video card first, may it be 5770/5850... but if the 5770 performs better than 4890 then definitely i'll buy a 5770, but if not i'd go for the 5850... and my motherboard is not crossfire capable so I would definitely go for a powerful video card

and it will be a long time before I upgrade my LCD from 19" to a bigger one, I still have to earn money you know =)

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: netxzero64
@toyota

well my plan is to get a video card first, may it be 5770/5850... but if the 5770 performs better than 4890 then definitely i'll buy a 5770, but if not i'd go for the 5850... and my motherboard is not crossfire capable so I would definitely go for a powerful video card

and it will be a long time before I upgrade my LCD from 19" to a bigger one, I still have to earn money you know =)

well the 5850 will certainly not be needed at 1440x900. after the video card I really think your priority should be getting a 1920x1080 monitor since they are well under $200 especially if on sale. IMO a larger monitor really makes gaming better and you have a nice system so I would try to get that for your next purchase. anyway if you are determined to stick to 1440x900 then a 5770 will be plenty at that very low res. if the 5770 is around 960-1120 shaders then theoretical you will have about the same gpu power at 1440x900 as those with a 5870 do at 1920x1080. heck even the 5750 will be very strong at the low res of 1440x900.

 

[nyker96]

5770 is not fast enough to be an upgrade, I'd go for 5870 or 5850.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: nyker96
5770 is not fast enough to be an upgrade, I'd go for 5870 or 5850.

what the heck are you talking about? he has onboard video and it would be stupid to recommend a 5870 and really even a 5850 for 1440x900. those cards tear through games at 1920. hell even a current 4870 will max every game out there at 1440x900.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: nyker96
5770 is not fast enough to be an upgrade, I'd go for 5870 or 5850.

what the heck are you talking about? he has onboard video and it would be stupid to recommend a 5870 and really even a 5850 for 1440x900. those cards tear through games at 1920. hell even a current 4870 will max every game out there at 1440x900.

You're an idiot.

I run a 4870 at 1440x900 and there is no way I can max out every game.

Crysis, STALKER etc own the shit out of my card at that res.

I can't even max out Bioshock with full AA and AF.

And my Max I mean 60FPS solid.

None of this kiddy '30FPS is good enough' crap.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: nyker96
5770 is not fast enough to be an upgrade, I'd go for 5870 or 5850.

what the heck are you talking about? he has onboard video and it would be stupid to recommend a 5870 and really even a 5850 for 1440x900. those cards tear through games at 1920. hell even a current 4870 will max every game out there at 1440x900.

You're an idiot.

I run a 4870 at 1440x900 and there is no way I can max out every game.

Crysis, STALKER etc own the shit out of my card at that res.

I can't even max out Bioshock with full AA and AF.

And my Max I mean 60FPS solid.

None of this kiddy '30FPS is good enough' crap.

if you cant max Bioshock at 1440x900 then you are the fucking idiot. also NOT everybody has to have 60fps in Crysis as the game is smooth at 30-40 fps and anybody that doesnt have thier head up their ass knows that. I hope you mean Clear Sky not the original STALKER because that game is not that demanding. as for Clear Sky if you turn down sun rays to low and ssao down one notch, which really look no different, that game will easily run fine at just 1440x900. I run Clear Sky on max DX10 settings with those ssao and sun ray settings I mentioned with a slower gtx260 at 1920x1080 and I average 40-45fps for all but 2 or 3 scenes. so again maybe you are the idiot.

 

[happy medium]

I max Bioshock with my 8800gt @ 1280x1024?
5770 will be more then enough for 1440x900.
Just because your max is 60fps solid dosen't mean someones an Idiot.

Edit : am I missing something or is the OP upgrading from on board graphics? If so he certainly won't need a 5850.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: nyker96
5770 is not fast enough to be an upgrade, I'd go for 5870 or 5850.

what the heck are you talking about? he has onboard video and it would be stupid to recommend a 5870 and really even a 5850 for 1440x900. those cards tear through games at 1920. hell even a current 4870 will max every game out there at 1440x900.

You're an idiot.

I run a 4870 at 1440x900 and there is no way I can max out every game.

Crysis, STALKER etc own the shit out of my card at that res.

I can't even max out Bioshock with full AA and AF.

And my Max I mean 60FPS solid.

None of this kiddy '30FPS is good enough' crap.

if you cant max Bioshock at 1440x900 then you are the fucking idiot. also NOT everybody has to have 60fps in Crysis as the game is smooth at 30-40 fps and anybody that doesnt have thier head up their ass knows that. I hope you mean Clear Sky not the original STALKER because that game is not that demanding. as for Clear Sky if you turn down sun rays to low and ssao down one notch, which really look no different, that game will easily run fine at just 1440x900. I run Clear Sky on max DX10 settings with those ssao and sun ray settings I mentioned with a slower gtx260 at 1920x1080 and I average 40-45fps for all but 2 or 3 scenes. so again maybe you are the idiot.

Nah, you really are an idiot.

Qualify your statements when you say "Max every game".

Most people who have been gaming for a while mean 60FPS solid when they say Max. Console kiddies and casual games might not need 60FPS but serious gamers do. Just because you're new to gaming and think 30FPS is playable in a FPS, doesn't give you the right to go around giving retarded advise to people.

One day you'll understand how 30FPS is not 'Maxed'.

Until then keep your stupid opinions to yourself.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: nyker96
5770 is not fast enough to be an upgrade, I'd go for 5870 or 5850.

what the heck are you talking about? he has onboard video and it would be stupid to recommend a 5870 and really even a 5850 for 1440x900. those cards tear through games at 1920. hell even a current 4870 will max every game out there at 1440x900.

You're an idiot.

I run a 4870 at 1440x900 and there is no way I can max out every game.

Crysis, STALKER etc own the shit out of my card at that res.

I can't even max out Bioshock with full AA and AF.

And my Max I mean 60FPS solid.

None of this kiddy '30FPS is good enough' crap.

if you cant max Bioshock at 1440x900 then you are the fucking idiot. also NOT everybody has to have 60fps in Crysis as the game is smooth at 30-40 fps and anybody that doesnt have thier head up their ass knows that. I hope you mean Clear Sky not the original STALKER because that game is not that demanding. as for Clear Sky if you turn down sun rays to low and ssao down one notch, which really look no different, that game will easily run fine at just 1440x900. I run Clear Sky on max DX10 settings with those ssao and sun ray settings I mentioned with a slower gtx260 at 1920x1080 and I average 40-45fps for all but 2 or 3 scenes. so again maybe you are the idiot.

Nah, you really are an idiot.

Qualify your statements when you say "Max every game".

Most people who have been gaming for a while mean 60FPS solid when they say Max. Console kiddies and casual games might not need 60FPS but serious gamers do. Just because you're new to gaming and think 30FPS is playable in a FPS, doesn't give you the right to go around giving retarded advise to people.

One day you'll understand how 30FPS is not 'Maxed'.

Until then keep you're stupid opinions to yourself.

I said you could play every game maxed out at 1440x900 and you can. I didnt say 60fps. some people dont need 60fps to be have a good experience especially with Crysis. 1440x900 is a very low res so except for Crysis and Clear Sky framerates would be super high in other games. only snobbish asshats like yourself think anything below 60 is "unplayable" so let the others enjoy their games.

 

[happy medium]

Max for a game for me is all settings on high and running without stuttering. As in smooth gameplay. Min 30fps for most games.
I can't tell the difference between 40 and 60fps.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: happy medium
Max for a game for me is all settings on high and running without stuttering. As in smooth gameplay. Min 30fps for most games.
I can't tell the difference between 40 and 60fps.

exactly. every game is different too and some dont feel smooth no matter how high the framerate is while others are just fine at 30-40fps. same thing with AA. some games need a lot to look good while others can get by with none so I just take it on a game by game basis.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet

Originally posted by: toyota

Originally posted by: nyker96
5770 is not fast enough to be an upgrade, I'd go for 5870 or 5850.

what the heck are you talking about? he has onboard video and it would be stupid to recommend a 5870 and really even a 5850 for 1440x900. those cards tear through games at 1920. hell even a current 4870 will max every game out there at 1440x900.

You're an idiot.

I run a 4870 at 1440x900 and there is no way I can max out every game.

Crysis, STALKER etc own the shit out of my card at that res.

I can't even max out Bioshock with full AA and AF.

And my Max I mean 60FPS solid.

None of this kiddy '30FPS is good enough' crap.

if you cant max Bioshock at 1440x900 then you are the fucking idiot. also NOT everybody has to have 60fps in Crysis as the game is smooth at 30-40 fps and anybody that doesnt have thier head up their ass knows that. I hope you mean Clear Sky not the original STALKER because that game is not that demanding. as for Clear Sky if you turn down sun rays to low and ssao down one notch, which really look no different, that game will easily run fine at just 1440x900. I run Clear Sky on max DX10 settings with those ssao and sun ray settings I mentioned with a slower gtx260 at 1920x1080 and I average 40-45fps for all but 2 or 3 scenes. so again maybe you are the idiot.

Nah, you really are an idiot.

Qualify your statements when you say "Max every game".

Most people who have been gaming for a while mean 60FPS solid when they say Max. Console kiddies and casual games might not need 60FPS but serious gamers do. Just because you're new to gaming and think 30FPS is playable in a FPS, doesn't give you the right to go around giving retarded advise to people.

One day you'll understand how 30FPS is not 'Maxed'.

Until then keep you're stupid opinions to yourself.

I said you could play every game maxed out at 1440x900 and you can. I didnt say 60fps. some people dont need 60fps to be have a good experience especially with Crysis. 1440x900 is a very low res so except for Crysis and Clear Sky framerates would be super high in other games. only snobbish asshats like yourself think anything below 60 is "unplayable" so let the others enjoy their games.

Fine, I'm a snob. Doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Go play with your Xbox.

 

[toyota]

Originally posted by: RocksteadyDotNet

Fine, I'm a snob. Doesn't mean I'm wrong.

Go play with your Xbox.

its not a question of right or wrong. saying that 60fps is what every game needs to be playable is YOUR opinion. there was certainly no need to call me an idiot because you think every game needs 60 fps. btw I dont even own a console.

 

[toyota]

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