57% of Americans approve of Bush as a person

ProfJohn

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Link to poll with pretty charts and graphs
From a Battleground Poll sponsored in part by George Washington University.

Lots and lots of interesting and informative stuff in this poll.

On job approval Bush sits at 61% disapprove and 36% approve, but on approval of him as a person he sits at 57% approval. This means that Americans don?t view him as the anti-Christ, as some members on here do, but instead just don?t like the job he is doing.

Congressional approval: Democrats 37% approve 52% disapprove
Republicans 28% approve 61% disapprove
93% of Americans think politicians put politics first, but only 71% think that way of their congressman.
65% have a favorable view of their congressman, but only 43% have a favorable view of politicians in general.
My congressman is fine; it?s all the others who suck :roll:

Now the top criticism of each party in congress is interesting.
For Democrats the top complaint is ?Have not gotten anything done? with 38% putting that first or second. Following that is Iraq war at 35%.

For Republicans: Not providing enough oversight of the war ranks first at 34%
too focused on the rich? is second at 33%.

Biggest problem facing the country ?other? at 26% beats everything. The war at 23% is followed by healthcare and the economy at 12% and 11%.

The approval rating on congressional leaders is very interesting. Since January Pelosi has not seen her favorable rating change one bit, but her unfavorable rating has gone from 31% to 40%. Seems the more people know about her the less they like her.
Harry Reid saw his favorable go up 2% and his unfavorable go up 6%.
When it comes to winning congress in 2008 the Democrats are losing ground, dropping 1% in the generic poll question.

Favorable and unfavorable rating of Presidential candidates
Romney 35% fav 25% unfav 41% of the country still has no opinion or has never heard of him.
Rudy 60% Fav 32% unfav
Obama 59% fav 28% unfav
McCain 54% fav 33% unfav
Hillary 50% fav 48% unfav
Edwards 53% fav 34% unfav
Fred Thompson 38% fav 15% unfav 47% have no opinion or have not heard of him.

So Rudy has the best favorable ratings followed closely by Obama, meanwhile Hillary is in the worst shape by far. Lowest favorable and highest unfavorable of the announced candidates, this can not be good for her chances in the general election.

This shows in the match ups
Giuliani 49% vs. Hillary at 44%
F. Thompson at 46% vs. Hillary at 46%. Half the country doesn?t know who he is and he ties with Hillary, not good if you are a Hillary supporter.
Obama on the other hand beats both Rudy and Thompson.

I think these head to head polls back up what us right wingers on here have been saying for months. The election is the Democrats to win or lose, but nominate Hillary and they lose all of their built in advantage.
 

Balt

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Democrats have a big problem with Hillary. She seems most likely to win the nomination, but least likely to win a presidential election. All she needs is for Obama and Edwards to split some votes and she pretty much takes it. In the general election, however, she's not going to get such a large help from women. Women who vote Republican aren't going to cross party lines to vote for Hillary, and I think there are a lot of people in the middle who won't vote for her either. As pointed out in that poll, there is already a strongly ingrained unfavorable opinion of her. She was being effectively demonized while Bill was still in office, and that's nothing compared to what she'll face in the future.

For the record, I think she'd make a lousy president anyway. Everything she says sounds too carefully scripted, like she doesn't really have any personal feeling about it one way or the other.
 

CrackRabbit

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I doubt President Bush is a bad person at heart, few people are. He couldn't lead the country out of a wet paper bag though.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Balt
Democrats have a big problem with Hillary. She seems most likely to win the nomination, but least likely to win a presidential election. All she needs is for Obama and Edwards to split some votes and she pretty much takes it. In the general election, however, she's not going to get such a large help from women. Women who vote Republican aren't going to cross party lines to vote for Hillary, and I think there are a lot of people in the middle who won't vote for her either. As pointed out in that poll, there is already a strongly ingrained unfavorable opinion of her. She was being effectively demonized while Bill was still in office, and that's nothing compared to what she'll face in the future.

For the record, I think she'd make a lousy president anyway. Everything she says sounds too carefully scripted, like she doesn't really have any personal feeling about it one way or the other.
Dick Morris, who knows Hillary very well, says that everything she does has a political component to it, and I mean EVERYTHING.

I am guessing that when Hillary goes out to eat she asks the server what the most popular dish is and orders it in order to appeal to the most dinners.
 

Nebor

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Hillary is polarizing. I literally cannot imagine her being president. It's not a world I want to live in.
 

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Originally posted by: CrackRabbit
I doubt President Bush is a bad person at heart, few people are. He couldn't lead the country out of a wet paper bag though.

There are different kinds of "bad". The fact that you can have lunch with the guy doesn't excuse a damn thing.
 

DaveSimmons

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> 57% of Americans approve of Bush as a person

Bush learned from his father's bad example that showing your blue-blood upbringing is not the way to win hearts and minds, that speakin' plain like regular folk'll make them trust you and like you better.

Bush is good at appearing to be a well-meaning and only mildly retarded "man of the people." He's gotten more Americans killed than 9/11, but people think he tried his best so it's not really his fault. It must be that nasty mister Cheney's fault, or just bad luck.

No, I don't hate him as a person, I just regret the harm caused by his incompetence and unwillingness to recognize his incompetence. Stay the course.
 

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Is this what 'grasping at straws' looks like?

No good poll results regarding his job performance, so we need to dig up his likability as a person?

I swear, American's have a fatal attraction for Bush's Forrest-Gump-like performance.
 
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Is this what 'grasping at straws' looks like?

No good poll results regarding his job performance, so we need to dig up his likability as a person?

I swear, American's have a fatal attraction for Bush's Forrest-Gump-like performance.

TBH this might be the first poll post in a long time where the OP isn't grasping at straws. It is what it is. And it's interesting.
 

jackschmittusa

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Well, I think GWB proved he was a liar and a crook before he got to the WH. All he has done since then is confirm it over and over since.

I personally think he's a jerk (tempted to use a more derogatory term), and I would not have lunch with him even if he picked up the tab and didn't steal my wallet.
 

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Is this what 'grasping at straws' looks like?

No good poll results regarding his job performance, so we need to dig up his likability as a person?

I swear, American's have a fatal attraction for Bush's Forrest-Gump-like performance.

TBH this might be the first poll post in a long time where the OP isn't grasping at straws. It is what it is. And it's interesting.

TBH this OP has been wrong on nearly every position he states.

this is no different.
 

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I honestly don't think this poll says anything new. He's a nice guy. I met him on 18th and Lavaca in Austin, Texas 7 years ago. Now, is he someone to run the Presidency? Hell no. Those are two different things.

George W. Bush
Bush lite
King George II
Bush the lesser
Bush the minor
Bush the Ass

sorry, I felt like writing these.
 

Moonbeam

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I will vote for Obama but one comfort I will take if Hillary wins is the thought that millions of Republican pricks and assholes may die of strokes and heart attacks, ulcers and indigestion, or ruptured spleens.

What some people describe as polarizing looks more like a talent as 'dirt magnet' or a Rorschach to identify the mentally ill.
 

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Originally posted by: Narmer
I honestly don't think this poll says anything new. He's a nice guy. I met him on 18th and Lavaca in Austin, Texas 7 years ago. Now, is he someone to run the Presidency? Hell no. Those are two different things.

George W. Bush
Bush lite
King George II
Bush the lesser
Bush the minor
Bush the Ass

sorry, I felt like writing these.

I met Leslie on Lavaca yesterday but wouldn't want him as president. Although it would be fun (in a train wreck kinda way) if he did actually win the mayoral.

Bush is either one of two things:

Forrest Gump like stupid where even he doesn't realize it and people just feel sorry for him and then tend to think of him as "likable"

or

As someone else said previously, smart enough to realize that if you act harmless people will tend to think of you as harmless

My personal feelings on the man are that he is a spoiled frat boy that never had to grow up or take responsibility for any of his actions as a child or young adult and now those ideals are ingrained as normal behavior to him now.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
The election is the Democrats to win or lose, but nominate Hillary and they lose all of their built in advantage.

That is so very true!!
 

Phokus

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Hey don't get me wrong, I'd love to have Bush as the president of my fraternity, he's probably a party animal and great to hang around with. But the guy is a moron, he's lazy, and he's egocentric. A really bad combination to be as president of the united states.
 

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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Originally posted by: Narmer
I honestly don't think this poll says anything new. He's a nice guy. I met him on 18th and Lavaca in Austin, Texas 7 years ago. Now, is he someone to run the Presidency? Hell no. Those are two different things.

George W. Bush
Bush lite
King George II
Bush the lesser
Bush the minor
Bush the Ass

sorry, I felt like writing these.

I met Leslie on Lavaca yesterday but wouldn't want him as president. Although it would be fun (in a train wreck kinda way) if he did actually win the mayoral.

Bush is either one of two things:

Forrest Gump like stupid where even he doesn't realize it and people just feel sorry for him and then tend to think of him as "likable"

or

As someone else said previously, smart enough to realize that if you act harmless people will tend to think of you as harmless

My personal feelings on the man are that he is a spoiled frat boy that never had to grow up or take responsibility for any of his actions as a child or young adult and now those ideals are ingrained as normal behavior to him now.

I definitely agree. And I met that homeless transvestite (sic?) when I was in Austin. He almost won the mayorial race then, right?
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I will vote for Obama but one comfort I will take if Hillary wins is the thought that millions of Republican pricks and assholes may die of strokes and heart attacks, ulcers and indigestion, or ruptured spleens.

What some people describe as polarizing looks more like a talent as 'dirt magnet' or a Rorschach to identify the mentally ill.

Imagine, the same bunch of jerks who hated Bill so bad having to kowtow to having his wife as POTUS and quite possibly for 8 years....... and quite possibly with a democratically controlled congress???

ROTFLMFAO!
 

nageov3t

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in fairness to Hillary, her unfavorable rating has been the same for like a decade now... I doubt it'll be moving very much.

but I firmly believe that the more people learn about Giuliani, the less they'll like him. and Thomson is just a joke.

democrats tried electing the most "electable" candidate in 2004 and look where it got them... I keep hoping they'll see the error of their ways and elect the person who'd do the best job, but somehow I doubt it. /shrug

that said, I'd still vote for any of the leading D candidates (except Edwards) before I'd vote for any of the R's other than McCain.
 

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I approve of my daughters 100%, although I believe I would disapprove of their performance if they were president (although in a few years their competency would exceed what the US currently has as president).
I will vote for Obama but one comfort I will take if Hillary wins is the thought that millions of Republican pricks and assholes may die of strokes and heart attacks, ulcers and indigestion, or ruptured spleens.

What some people describe as polarizing looks more like a talent as 'dirt magnet' or a Rorschach to identify the mentally ill.
You are spot-on with this. It is still statements based in hate, but watching the rabid frenzy of some extreme republicans if hillary gained office would be truly a sight to behold and well worth the price of admission in increases taxes.
 

1EZduzit

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I approve of my daughters 100%, although I believe I would disapprove of their performance if they were president (although in a few years their competency would exceed what the US currently has as president).
I will vote for Obama but one comfort I will take if Hillary wins is the thought that millions of Republican pricks and assholes may die of strokes and heart attacks, ulcers and indigestion, or ruptured spleens.

What some people describe as polarizing looks more like a talent as 'dirt magnet' or a Rorschach to identify the mentally ill.
You are spot-on with this. It is still statements based in hate, but watching the rabid frenzy of some extreme republicans if hillary gained office would be truly a sight to behold and well worth the price of admission in increases taxes.

LOL, do you suppose the GOP will put together a "Anybody but Hillary" strategy?
 

thraashman

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Originally posted by: ProfJohn

On job approval Bush sits at 61% disapprove and 36% approve, but on approval of him as a person he sits at 57% approval. This means that Americans don?t view him as the anti-Christ, as some members on here do, but instead just don?t like the job he is doing.

Of course he's not the anti-christ, Cheney is. Seriously though, I don't like Bush. But I HATE most of the people he's surrounded himself with. Cheney, Gonzales, Rumsfeld (hooray he's gone), Rice and probably a couple of others that just don't come to mind immediately. And I think Bush genuinely thinks what he's doing is good, but he's just too dimwitted to succeed at actually doing any good and instead it turns out monumentally bad.
 

ProfJohn

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I will vote for Obama but one comfort I will take if Hillary wins is the thought that millions of Republican pricks and assholes may die of strokes and heart attacks, ulcers and indigestion, or ruptured spleens.
I think this is where someone posts some long meandering post about how you hate yourself?
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I will vote for Obama but one comfort I will take if Hillary wins is the thought that millions of Republican pricks and assholes may die of strokes and heart attacks, ulcers and indigestion, or ruptured spleens.

What some people describe as polarizing looks more like a talent as 'dirt magnet' or a Rorschach to identify the mentally ill.

Imagine, the same bunch of jerks who hated Bill so bad having to kowtow to having his wife as POTUS and quite possibly for 8 years....... and quite possibly with a democratically controlled congress???

ROTFLMFAO!

Geez, I never considered an equal number of Democrats may just die of laughing if she wins.