Angry Irishman
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Anyone who thinks this is the best president ever is either blind or a really stupid mother fucker.
thraashman
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- Apr 10, 2000
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The same should be said for anyone who thinks he's the worst President ever, or even in the top 5 worst. He falls somewhere in the middle of the pack. Hell, even Bush 2: Bush Harder, wasn't the worst President ever. Sure, the Bush was the worst modern President (defining modern as post WW2), but not the worst ever.
trenchfoot
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I recall those numerous outrageous and unbelievable claims by the likes of Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Coulter, O'Reilly, Rove, Malkin, et al that America was going to implode, self-destruct, cease to exist and every other apoplectic descriptor these highly influential conservative icons could throw up against a wall and make it stick that never happened.
It's these rabble rousing, attention-getting, self-promoting prima donnas that are directly and largely responsible for why so many conservatives are so misinformed, so full of fear and hate, so deceived and so completely conditioned to wretch at the mere mention of our current president's name. And yes, there are those conservatives that actively promote and encourage this type of underhanded propaganda ploys to "protect and serve their cause". They don't give a damn about the truth of the matter or the man. All they see is a threat to their existence, real or imagined, and they will go to any length to destroy the perceived threat.
Need I also mention how every single one of those aforementioned conservative pundits practically jumped through flaming hoops and shoved each other aside for attention when the opportunity to plant fear and hate against Obama arose with that silly birther scare that still has a large portion of the conservatives believing it to be a proven fact? And that's just a single stab at scaring the uninformed into siding with "the good guys" among a plethora of others.
Why these despicable pranks and hateful ploys have a prominent place in the body politic of our nation is something I'll never truly understand.
It's these rabble rousing, attention-getting, self-promoting prima donnas that are directly and largely responsible for why so many conservatives are so misinformed, so full of fear and hate, so deceived and so completely conditioned to wretch at the mere mention of our current president's name. And yes, there are those conservatives that actively promote and encourage this type of underhanded propaganda ploys to "protect and serve their cause". They don't give a damn about the truth of the matter or the man. All they see is a threat to their existence, real or imagined, and they will go to any length to destroy the perceived threat.
Need I also mention how every single one of those aforementioned conservative pundits practically jumped through flaming hoops and shoved each other aside for attention when the opportunity to plant fear and hate against Obama arose with that silly birther scare that still has a large portion of the conservatives believing it to be a proven fact? And that's just a single stab at scaring the uninformed into siding with "the good guys" among a plethora of others.
Why these despicable pranks and hateful ploys have a prominent place in the body politic of our nation is something I'll never truly understand.
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boomerang
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Ooh, please explain why this thread is necessary.
I see it as a me good, you bad thread. It's below grade school thinking it's more akin to tribal thinking. Why is it that some people have a continual need to affirm to themselves that they have worth?
rudeguy
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You do realize that you blame everything on Fox News, right? Not only does it make you sound paranoid, it makes you sound outright ignorant.
A large part of them are just racist and won't ever accept a black President, so they use the Muslim label to cover their racism.
Doc Savage Fan
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Obama called Bush unpatriotic for deficit spending...how much more so should Obama be called unpatriotic?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmru6no4U
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Anubis
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You guys need to get your story straight;
http://nypost.com/2015/02/21/giuliani-obama-influenced-by-communists-since-youth/
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/fir...-obama-had-a-white-mother-so-im-not-a-racist/
,.. sounds like he is a White Christian, with black skin to me.
Obama was bashed for not pulling out quick enough from the middle east,.. and now he pulled out too quick - which is it?
Provide proof on where Obama is 'giving' Iran anything.
But running deficits during a depression IS patriotic, because it's doing what's best for the country. Running deficits during a time of full employment and higher inflation is a bad idea.
We've been over this before, what happened?
Doc Savage Fan
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The recession has been over since 2009 and we're still waiting for Obama to demonstrate his "patriotism".
That doesn't make any sense. Cutting deficits in a time of significant labor force slack and low inflation would have been extremely unpatriotic. In case you want to look at the results, check out Europe.
It's odd that you would mention Obama attacking Bush for acting economically irresponsible and then try to use that as a way to attack Obama for acting economically responsible. It doesn't make any rational sense.
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The conservative brain defect is in full effect here,..
1) you have conservative leadership viewing our President as some sort of covert Muslim
2) conservatives on these very boards believe Obama is a Muslim
They feel they are being lied to, because it is their distrusting and alarmist drive to act in this manner.
Our President is not a Muslim, but, there fear and subsequent hate of him has these folks cooking up this elaborate scheme of how he doctored a birth certificate, lied to everyone, violated Islam and is 'helping' Iran.
This is quite over the top.
This isn't a DUI, dancing around the definition of "Is" or keeping an affair under wraps - the President is being accused of pretty much moving a mountain of lies and fooled people.
Wow, he is quite a powerful foe.
But, these conservatives know better - they see through all of this. Yet, even with what they 'see',.. they have no power and no proof to up root and expose this lie.
Because, there is no lie, they are just being alarmist,.. and deep down; they know they are wrong and they can't do anything about it; to address this or even stop themselves.
It's so sad. To be stuck on ALARM all the time and not being able to do anything to shut yourself off or even address what you are reacting to.
1) you have conservative leadership viewing our President as some sort of covert Muslim
2) conservatives on these very boards believe Obama is a Muslim
They feel they are being lied to, because it is their distrusting and alarmist drive to act in this manner.
Our President is not a Muslim, but, there fear and subsequent hate of him has these folks cooking up this elaborate scheme of how he doctored a birth certificate, lied to everyone, violated Islam and is 'helping' Iran.
This is quite over the top.
This isn't a DUI, dancing around the definition of "Is" or keeping an affair under wraps - the President is being accused of pretty much moving a mountain of lies and fooled people.
Wow, he is quite a powerful foe.
But, these conservatives know better - they see through all of this. Yet, even with what they 'see',.. they have no power and no proof to up root and expose this lie.
Because, there is no lie, they are just being alarmist,.. and deep down; they know they are wrong and they can't do anything about it; to address this or even stop themselves.
It's so sad. To be stuck on ALARM all the time and not being able to do anything to shut yourself off or even address what you are reacting to.
Doc Savage Fan
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Bush inherited a recession created by the IT bubble, didn't have full employment for much of his administration, there was relatively low inflation during this period as well, and he was progressively cutting deficits until the next financial bubble burst. Yet his deficits are "unpatriotic"....got it.
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rudeguy
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Doc Savage Fan
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rudeguy
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damn it Reagan!
I've decided every time these democrat morons blame Bush for something, I'm going to find a way to blame England. Because fuck England.
mikeymikec
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I don't know about you guys, but I (my business) only experienced the effects of the recession in 2010 - 2011. Admittedly I'm in the UK so MMMV, but even then, this wikipedia article disagrees with your statement:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession
First graph
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This is some sort of awesome rhetorical ouroboros.
DSF brings up Bush, when he is told his description is wrong, you whine about people bringing up Bush.
Doc Savage Fan
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The U.S. recession ended in 2009.I don't know about you guys, but I (my business) only experienced the effects of the recession in 2010 - 2011. Admittedly I'm in the UK so MMMV, but even then, this wikipedia article disagrees with your statement:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession
First graph
http://www.economist.com/node/15911334
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