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51% to 41%, people don't need lists of reasons to not vote for Obama

They're using the same small time right-wing site poll that n-ProJ used in one of his threads. Who cares what a biased poll says?
 
Does he deserve re-election? Meh, not really, but all of the realistic alternatives are much worse. I'd vote Republican if John Huntsman or Gary Johnson won the nomination, but there's no chance of that happening.
 
These kinds of polls don't mean squat, especially 13 months out. We still need to see how the GOP candidates shake out and who ends up being the nominee. Then we can see some real head to head polling and we can get a better idea of where things stand.

There are a lot of people who don't like Obama, but you can't forget that he has a legion of adoring media members covering him, and he'll have 90+ % of the black vote in his pocket (plus higher than usual turnout). Right now I'd probably still put my money on Obama to get a second term, but the economy continues to be an anchor around his neck.
 
Hayabusa Rider said:
Right now there isn't a good reason to vote.
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Even if you think Obama and whoever the GOP nominates are both total clowns unworthy of your vote (likely a reasonable conclusion), I still think refusing to vote is the worst option. Just vote third party - at least you're sending a message that way, even if the third party candidate has no real shot.
 
Mursilis said:
Even if you think Obama and whoever the GOP nominates are both total clowns unworthy of your vote (likely a reasonable conclusion), I still think refusing to vote is the worst option. Just vote third party - at least you're sending a message that way, even if the third party candidate has no real shot.
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In a two party system, the best best is to vote for the lesser of two evils 😉
 
Ausm said:
In a two party system, the best best is to vote for the lesser of two evils 😉
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It's only a two-party system because the sheeple are too stupid/lazy/complacent to change it. Perpetuating that system is not, in the long run, benefiting the nation.
 
glenn1 said:
Here's list of polls of Obama's approval numbers, they're pretty close to the 51/41 numbers cited.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
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Not even close, actually. Not a single Republican candidate has consistently beat Obama in the last 30 days in any aggregate of those RCP polls, with Romney coming the closest (at basically a dead heat) and that's with more than a year to go before election, when the economy is only likely to get better barring Europe descending into anarchy.

EDIT: In fact, over the last 2 weeks, Obama has consistently bested Romney in 4 straight polls, including right-leaning firms like Rasmussen where he leads by 2 points. All within the margin of error, but again, that's fantastic news for liberals given the economic climate outside the U.S. that's hurting domestic confidence these last 4 months.
 
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Mursilis said:
It's only a two-party system because the sheeple are too stupid/lazy/complacent to change it. Perpetuating that system is not, in the long run, benefiting the nation.
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I am not going to waste my vote on a losing cause...you can if you want to.
 
The numbers don't really mean anything. I said I was going to vote against my city's mayor up until they had debates. The alternatives were so much worse in every possible way. I ended up voting for the guy I said I wanted out of office and he won by a landslide.
 
Ausm said:
The Evil won't get out of Politics until the money does and hopefully that will happen someday.
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Ha. Not likely. If I were the king of the world, I would execute every person who talked about forming a democracy or rules of conduct. I'm not going to give up power like that. Come on bro; get serious.
 
Ausm said:
I am not going to waste my vote on a losing cause...you can if you want to.
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Congratulations, you are part of the problem with this country. Another spineless sheep that will toe the party line because they're told to. If you were worth a damn, you'd vote for the candidate that most closely mirrors your views, the person you would actually like to see in office. If that person happens to be in one of the two main parties than so be it, but if you are just voting against the other guy, your vote is worthless anyway.
 
The best reason to vote for Obama is that the Republican candidates will be even worse.

What will a Republican president do? Encourage more jobs to go overseas? Enact more free trade deals? Increase the number of H-1B and L-1 visas? Allow amnesty for illegal aliens (see Bush, McCain)? Raise taxes on the middle class and decrease taxes on the rich? Make abortion illegal? Bail out Wall Street banksters? Support backwards failed free market health care policies? Oppose legalizing marijuana? Advocate turning the nation into an Iranian-styled Christian theocracy?

The Democrats are awful, but the Republicans are even worse.
 
Obama is going to have to have all the homeless, the dead and any other voter that acorn,unions and other groups can get, but it's not like the republicans are causing excitement with voters either. I'm sue plenty will not be voting as well
 
SAWYER said:
Obama is going to have to have all the homeless, the dead and any other voter that acorn,unions and other groups can get, but it's not like the republicans are causing excitement with voters either. I'm sue plenty will not be voting as well
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Time to give up huffing paint 😉
 
xj0hnx said:
Congratulations, you are part of the problem with this country. Another spineless sheep that will toe the party line because they're told to. If you were worth a damn, you'd vote for the candidate that most closely mirrors your views, the person you would actually like to see in office. If that person happens to be in one of the two main parties than so be it, but if you are just voting against the other guy, your vote is worthless anyway.
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Nah, if you aren't an ignoramus then it's pretty straight forward actually. No one particularly intelligent thinks any politician outside the D's and R's will really do the things they say they'll do because unlike a D or R presidential candidate, a green party, libertarian, etc. candidate can say all the crazy shit they want, because there are no real substantial consequences to their actions because they know they won't be elected. Besides, when it comes down to actually doing that crazy shit, the non-R's and non-D's don't have any record of actually accomplishing said goals. And the only D/R candidates that do say crazy shit are the ones with no shot (Huntsman, Paul, etc.), so they have nothing to lose.

That's why the smart, practical people vote against the lesser "evil", it's very shrewd. Common sense.
 
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