50000 BitTorrent users being sued for downloading movies

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Glitchny

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IIRC the judge just dismissed the "Expendables" case and had some harsh words for the lawyers wasting the courts' time.
 

joutlaw

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On usenet your IP isn't tracked? Is the place filled with child porn because of this?

I've always used IRC, I think that tracks your IP though.

You don't upload the content on usenet, therefore you aren't distributing pirated content. Torrents and P2P file sharing works on the basis of you uploading what you download.
 

rudder

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IIRC the judge just dismissed the "Expendables" case and had some harsh words for the lawyers wasting the courts' time.

Most of these cases are getting dismissed.. but people can still be sued... but it has to be local. So if you live in a big city... watch out.
 

IceBergSLiM

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subtly fail

At any rate, $$$.

meh I pay for a month 2-3 times a year and download a shit ton of stuff. works out pretty well. At this point I have most everything I want so I don't need to be downloading shit all the time.
 

Gillbot

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My wifi is open, there was recently a red vw golf parked out in front of my house.

I think the "I have open Wi-Fi" argument is instantly thrown out and dismissed nowadays. I work at an ISP, and EVERY. SINGLE. CUSTOMER. that we disconnect due to copyright infringement ALWAYS retorts with "Oh jeez, well I have an open Wi-Fi access point, it must have been somebody else." It's the first & only defense people use, and for some reason, think it's bulletproof.

Something as little as your IP address can get you into some serious shit these days, so it's your responsibility to keep it locked down.

This ^

You are responsible for what you broadcast. If it's not secure, it's your responsibility.
 

Aikouka

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Nov 27, 2001
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I thought Comcast refused to give out the IP addresses? Mostly because it's supposedly expensive to do so (on a per IP address basis)?
 

Arkaign

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This ^

You are responsible for what you broadcast. If it's not secure, it's your responsibility.

How does this figure into Starbucks, McDonalds, Motels, and other small businesses who offer free wifi for customers? Should they be sued into oblivion because joe jackass was running torrents while eating his donuts at their business?
 

Krynj

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How does this figure into Starbucks, McDonalds, Motels, and other small businesses who offer free wifi for customers? Should they be sued into oblivion because joe jackass was running torrents while eating his donuts at their business?

They very well could be, sure -- that's part of the liability of offering free Wi-Fi. I'm not sure what they have for security measures in place, but I'd bet they have something to block certain sites and traffic.
 

Arkaign

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Good old USA, where it's litigation > common sense. With all the incentives, we're producing drastically more lawyers and financial 'services' types than engineers or scientists these days. We're ceding the game to the Europeans and Chinese. Shit only rolls downhill for so long before it'll drown those at the top, of course they'll have the resources to jump the sinking ship and move to a country that's rising rather than failing.
 

xSkyDrAx

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Wtf? I somewhat agree with netflix but redbox? You think it's easier to go pick up a movie, use physical media, then return it within 24 hrs than to spend 5 mins browsing and 20 mins downloading?

Well since there are so many redboxes and I'm outside at least once a day it's not terribly out of the way for me to do so. Like I said I don't watch movies that often maybe once or twice a month at most so it works out pretty well for me. Compared to previous methods of movie acquisition it's terribly convienient now in comparsion to piracy.
 

guyver01

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Should they be sued into oblivion because joe jackass was running torrents while eating his donuts at their business?

If they're stupid enough to leave those ports open, yes.

Most "free wifi" places don't give unlimited, unrestricted access. You're going thru a proxy server, and they will block torrent ports.

If they don't... then yes, they're as stupid as Joe-Blow who leaves his Linksys password as "Password"
 

Arkaign

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If they're stupid enough to leave those ports open, yes.

Most "free wifi" places don't give unlimited, unrestricted access. You're going thru a proxy server, and they will block torrent ports.

If they don't... then yes, they're as stupid as Joe-Blow who leaves his Linksys password as "Password"

Alright, what about access to email? Suppose Joe Jackass creates a fake google account and emails threatening messages to people, or posts illegal content to a message board while connected to the free wifi? Still think the coffee shop should be liable?

I'm just wondering how the fuck it became acceptable in this country to just blame the nearest convenient target instead of the responsible party in the pursuit of extorting $$$.