It's at BB. They are only 74min. I'll have to go down there tommorow to see if there made in Japan, I guess for them to be Taiyodens. So it might be an alright deal.
50-pk TDK cdr for 9.99 after $10 rebate(good if Taiyodens)
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i'll save you the trip. my BB doesn't have taiyodens tdk.
compusa does. (it's the 100 pack that's split between two 50-ct spindles)
compusa does. (it's the 100 pack that's split between two 50-ct spindles)
Yep, if they are made in Japan then they are the Taiyo Yuden's. I haven't found a more reliable brand for copying anything and everything.
Anyone know of a brand/place where I can buy a "sampler?" Basically, a 1-2 pack of a brand/type of CDRs that are definitely Taiyo Yuden. I want to try these out in a CD player I have.
Do you guys know if the Imation 50 pk spindles that are platinum and 80min's are Taiyo Yudens? According to cdmediaworld they might be, but can't tell for sure.
Taken from the CDR FAQ
Taiyo Yuden produced the original gold/green CDs, which were used during the development of CD-R standards. Taiyo Yuden made the first "green" CDs. They are now manufactured by TDK, Ricoh, Kodak, and probably several others as well. The Orange Book standard was written based on the original "green" cyanine discs from Taiyo Yuden. Cyanine dye is more forgiving of marginal read/write power variations than "gold" phthalocyanine dye, making them easier to read on some drives.
Taiyo Yuden produced the original gold/green CDs, which were used during the development of CD-R standards. Taiyo Yuden made the first "green" CDs. They are now manufactured by TDK, Ricoh, Kodak, and probably several others as well. The Orange Book standard was written based on the original "green" cyanine discs from Taiyo Yuden. Cyanine dye is more forgiving of marginal read/write power variations than "gold" phthalocyanine dye, making them easier to read on some drives.
<< Ok, what's so special about Taiyo Yuden CDR's?? >>
Of more than 2 dozen brands of blanks that I've tried, only TY (branded Imation or TY), Mitsui, and (amazingly) generics from CDR-Express will play in every audio player I've tried them in. I've tried over 20 different players...car, home, portable.
For my worst case systems, I use my Memocrapex portable cd player to see if they will buffer to antiskip, and my brother's factory Bose system to see if it can even play them. If they pass these two, I consider them good for audio.
In the past, Imations made in Japan, were TY's, but, it's been awhile since I used them.
--Randy
so did anyone get back from BB and find out if they're indeed made in Japan for the Tayoudens?
RaysMD
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So, according to Fumiup, the Taiyo Yuden CDRs are made of the ?Greenish? Cyanine Dye.
According to CDR-Id the TDK made in Taiwan by Reitek, is also a Cyanine Dye, and they look very ?Greenish? on the burning side.
Both are made for TDK, which is a quality brand name in the industry.
The days that every thing made in Japan is always better then made in Taiwan, or any other country has gone long time ago.
So, I wonder is there really any functional differences?
According to CDR-Id the TDK made in Taiwan by Reitek, is also a Cyanine Dye, and they look very ?Greenish? on the burning side.
Both are made for TDK, which is a quality brand name in the industry.
The days that every thing made in Japan is always better then made in Taiwan, or any other country has gone long time ago.
So, I wonder is there really any functional differences?
JackMDS: Go check them out. Buy one TDK made by Reitek and one made by Taiyo Yuden, and you will see the quality difference between the two after some testing. The day where products being made in Japan are still better than those that are made in Taiwan seem to will always be here.
Not only electronic products, you can also try out like knives made in Taiwan and knives made in Japan, you will will find the quality of the Japanese steel is much better than that of Japan.
Not only electronic products, you can also try out like knives made in Taiwan and knives made in Japan, you will will find the quality of the Japanese steel is much better than that of Japan.
<< ...you will see the quality difference between the two after some testing. >>
What tests can an average Joe like myself do to tell the quality difference?
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I use a lot of CDRs for professional purpose (non-computer type). I have Plextor burner, and P-III @ 860MHz. I never encountered problem in using any CDRs for this purpose; I just buy the cheapest on sale.
My wife has a huge collection of old LP records (mostly Classical Music, and Opera), and I am trying to back them up to CDs. By doing this task, I started to notice differences in the out come. That is the extend that I can judge brand quality.
If you want to know the make up of a CDR you must first record on it, and then use this program (CDR-Id): http://www.gum.de/it/download/english.htm
In any case if, any of you want to learn a little more about the issue log here: http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_dye.shtml
My wife has a huge collection of old LP records (mostly Classical Music, and Opera), and I am trying to back them up to CDs. By doing this task, I started to notice differences in the out come. That is the extend that I can judge brand quality.
If you want to know the make up of a CDR you must first record on it, and then use this program (CDR-Id): http://www.gum.de/it/download/english.htm
In any case if, any of you want to learn a little more about the issue log here: http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_dye.shtml
On CDSpeed2000, Erik shows the checking of C2 errors. I was thinking that his CDSpeed now supported that error checking, so you could chart yours (but, can't find it on his site now). Erik at one time had some charts on his site that showed when errors were encountered on the cd. Generally, the further toward the edge you get, the more errors. Some were really whacked.
Erik's testing
--Randy
Erik's testing
--Randy
Well I just got back from a BB in NJ and on the spindle label it says made is "USA"
Is this any good?
RaysMD
Is this any good?
RaysMD
TY's are typically better quality.
My mantra is to buy the best for as cheap as I can. If I can find TY's for cheap then i'd go for it. If you have a forgiving system that burns just about anything then I would say good for you. Whatever works then.
However, it makes sense that if you can get cheap generic Ritek/CMC Magnetic/Gigastorage media "A" and at the same time you can get Taiyo Yuden "B" for the same price then common sense dictates that you buy the better quality discs, namely the Taiyo Yudens.
But apart from the cost of media is the ability to retain and keep the information stable on the disc itself. I've used Ritek Maxell's and they were the only media that i've ever had problems on. Burned some discs ... tried to read them maybe 2-3 months later and couldn't. Brutal.
To be specific, I couldn't read them on my Toshiba cdrom anymore although I could read them from my Plextor cdrw. That just plain sucks. I need media that will be read on anything ... that's just a general rule of thumb that one should expect. I shouldn't have to worry about this and that cheap media not being able to be read when played on someone else's cdrom or rw.
My opinion: just buy the Taiyo Yudens if they are cheap and forget about 'em.
My mantra is to buy the best for as cheap as I can. If I can find TY's for cheap then i'd go for it. If you have a forgiving system that burns just about anything then I would say good for you. Whatever works then.
However, it makes sense that if you can get cheap generic Ritek/CMC Magnetic/Gigastorage media "A" and at the same time you can get Taiyo Yuden "B" for the same price then common sense dictates that you buy the better quality discs, namely the Taiyo Yudens.
But apart from the cost of media is the ability to retain and keep the information stable on the disc itself. I've used Ritek Maxell's and they were the only media that i've ever had problems on. Burned some discs ... tried to read them maybe 2-3 months later and couldn't. Brutal.
To be specific, I couldn't read them on my Toshiba cdrom anymore although I could read them from my Plextor cdrw. That just plain sucks. I need media that will be read on anything ... that's just a general rule of thumb that one should expect. I shouldn't have to worry about this and that cheap media not being able to be read when played on someone else's cdrom or rw.
My opinion: just buy the Taiyo Yudens if they are cheap and forget about 'em.
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