$50 for 'old style' gas containers

[Elixer]

What the heck is going on in the gas container market?

Was filling up today, and had my 13 year old or so gas container with me, and this elderly gentlemen at the pump across the pump from me came over and offered $50 for it.

I was like, eh? (it looks like one of these)

He then went on to say that the new fangled containers are made from satan's seed itself and he is looking all over for one, and his biggest mistake was selling his old jerry container in a garage sale when he moved down here.
He then went on to say new ones require people to use both hands to operate, and ends up spilling gas all over the mower.

I got back home, and did some searching, and seems these new containers do indeed suck. Leave it to the government to screw things up.

 

[waggy]

there is ways to make the new ones flow like the older style. look up on youtube



edit: don't blame the government blame the fucking idiots that sued the them.

 

[halik]

there is ways to make the new ones flow like the older style. look up on youtube



edit: don't blame the government blame the fucking idiots that sued the them.

Is that what the fuck that problem is? I had to drill the nozzle on the one I bought, because it just wouldn't let any gas out of it. WTF

Ended up taking the nozzle out completely and using a funnel

 

[nakedfrog]

The spout on my old style one was broken... a local farm implement store conveniently sells replacement spout kits for them for $10.

 

[waggy]

Is that what the fuck that problem is? I had to drill the nozzle on the one I bought, because it just wouldn't let any gas out of it. WTF

Ended up taking the nozzle out completely and using a funnel

It's rather easy to fix. just need a pair of players and yank off a section.

I found a "how to" on youtube. took me 5 minutes to get it to flow as fast as a old one.

one thing i hate about the new ones is that its a pain in the ass to get all the gas out.

 

[ponyo]

I read 'old style' and I was thinking of metal gas cans. Then I saw the OP was talking about the spout. Yeah, the newer spouts suck.

 

[Jeff7]

I read 'old style' and I was thinking of metal gas cans. Then I saw the OP was talking about the spout. Yeah, the newer spouts suck.

Same here. I remember using some of the metal ones when I was a kid, refueling the lawnmower. They had a captive metal spout that could be pulled outward.

Then, yes, there were the plastic things that had the spout like in the photo. Then they started to suck, usually due to a lousy seal at the base of the spout that would leak like crazy.

 

[CoPhotoGuy]

You can thank CARB for that crap. Can't have normal gas cans because they can "leak vapors"...better make a new gas can with a locking thing that is hard to get unlocked and instead of leaking vapors will store them all up and release them all at once when you unlock it. Makes good sense.

 

[herm0016]

yep. thats why i have 4 secpter mfc cans and an old wedco metal. none of those new pos things for us.

 

[ViviTheMage]

yes, the new spouts suck

 

[preCRT]

The new ones do indeed suck. However, with a little pen knife my dad sawed off the childproof plastic tab on this model, now it is awesome.

 

[DrPizza]

You would think that gas cans at auctions would sell for a cheap price - but they sometimes sell for what they cost 20 years ago when they were brand new.

 

[herm0016]

You would think that gas cans at auctions would sell for a cheap price - but they sometimes sell for what they cost 20 years ago when they were brand new.

i got my metal wedco with a nice spout for 6 dollars at an auction!

 

[waggy]

You would think that gas cans at auctions would sell for a cheap price - but they sometimes sell for what they cost 20 years ago when they were brand new.

yeap. i went to a auction and seen some. figured i would pick them up. fuck they were more then they were new.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Two good options if you want a new can

Cheaper but still better than most modern cans - http://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/asin/B00E0OSDPQ/2/ref=ask_dp_iaw_ql_hza#question-Tx19TZ2G74ZX85C

Wicked expensive but good - http://www.amazon.com/NATO-Jerry-Li..._n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin:7019223011

 

[Red Squirrel]

Just use old water bottles. Keep a bunch in the trunk and a length of pipe for emergency. I keep a bag of fertiliser over them so they don't roll around.

On serious note, it is annoying when companies change a design when the old one worked fine. Most of the time the change ends up being bad and not better.

 

[IronWing]

At work, we were directed to replace all our plastic cans with these:

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They ain't cheap. A year later we were told, "Those are dangerous, what were you thinking? You need to get rid of those and buy these."

link

which cost approximately a metric f ton of money each.

Edit: I should point out that there is nothing wrong with the top can but apparently it doesn't meet a specific DOT regulation.

 

[SparkyJJO]

You can thank CARB for that crap. Can't have normal gas cans because they can "leak vapors"...better make a new gas can with a locking thing that is hard to get unlocked and instead of leaking vapors will store them all up and release them all at once when you unlock it. Makes good sense.

Yeah, those vapors are awful things. Better to have you just spill a bunch of gas all over the place when trying to fill your lawnmower instead!

I got new gas cans, ripped the stupid spouts off them, and got EZ Pour "water" spouts. Works like the old cans now. Had to get the white plastic "water" version because the black plastic gas ones are illegal to sell here in Ohio

edit: don't blame the government blame the fucking idiots that sued the them.

These new spouts have nothing to do with the idiots suing. That stuff resulted in fire arrestor screens in the base of the spouts. All this "no spill vapor lock" crap is all EPA/CARB stuff by the government.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

$50 here.

$35 here.

 

[Linflas]

So this explains the reason I ended up fighting with the new gas can I bought last weekend. Guess I will hang onto the old one and buy a replacement spout for it.

 

[sm625]

I remember buying a gas can in the mid 1990s for like $5. I had to buy one in 2004 and it was like $20. Twenty frickin dollars for $2 worth of plastic.

 

[Thump553]

You can thank CARB for that crap. Can't have normal gas cans because they can "leak vapors"...better make a new gas can with a locking thing that is hard to get unlocked and instead of leaking vapors will store them all up and release them all at once when you unlock it. Makes good sense.

Tell you what-take your old style gas can, fill in up, seal it and put it in your car overnight. If yours is like either of mine the car will reek of gas fumes in the morning.

I'm not saying this new design is good, but that the problem exists and is real. For some reason it seems to take engineers several years to design effective solutions to apparently simple problems (witness the first few years of low flow toilets, any 1970s or 1980s automobile emission system, early CFL lightbulbs, etc.).

 

[PokerGuy]

I had never heard of any of this CARB garbage and bought a standard new 5 gallon gas can. It was expensive and is a huge pain in the butt to use, you can't operate it with one hand, you end up spilling gas all over the place etc etc. Then I broke the spout trying to get the fuel to pour out. That's when I found out about the idiotic CARB / EPA requirements. Very typical - government steps in to "fix" a problem that doesn't exist, and comes up with a "solution" that is infinitely worse.

I went ahead and bought the ez pour "water" spout and put it on my gas cans. Works fine. Idiot EPA / government people.

 

[PokerGuy]

Tell you what-take your old style gas can, fill in up, seal it and put it in your car overnight. If yours is like either of mine the car will reek of gas fumes in the morning.

I'm not saying this new design is good, but that the problem exists and is real.

If it's such a problem, wouldn't the marketplace demand drive companies to develop a product to address that issue?

For some reason it seems to take engineers several years to design effective solutions to apparently simple problems (witness the first few years of low flow toilets, any 1970s or 1980s automobile emission system, early CFL lightbulbs, etc.).

I thought these idiotic regulations went into effect in 2009. Six years later, the problem has not gotten any better because apparently the mandated regulations governing the spouts is such that the product either has to be extremely expensive, or be virtually unworkable.

Now we have a mandated system that is more expensive and a lot less effective or efficient. Yep, fits right in with government work.

 

[HeXen]

I have one of the old all metal cans. That's why they last because it's all metal. I noticed most of today's cans tend to leak or the plastic bends/breaks easily around the nozzle's seals.

Tell you what-take your old style gas can, fill in up, seal it and put it in your car overnight. If yours is like either of mine the car will reek of gas fumes in the morning.

I'm not saying this new design is good, but that the problem exists and is real. For some reason it seems to take engineers several years to design effective solutions to apparently simple problems (witness the first few years of low flow toilets, any 1970s or 1980s automobile emission system, early CFL lightbulbs, etc.).

Except that the new ones didn't solve any problems. As I mentioned they are notorious for leaking around the cap seal within a short time often so it'll smell up your car anyway...all 3 of mine do. They also make them so difficult to effectively use on many things that people will just simply break the valve or nozzle assembly so they can pour it efficiently.

I have a 2 gallon plastic can that's literally impossible to get it's gas contents inside my car's tank. Because I have to rotate, pull back and hold down the latch that opens the internal plastic valve ( that will leak eventually anyway) but cannot because the fuel tank insert's door that keeps debris out, it sits too far into the well for such a short, hard nozzle like that where there isn't enough room to get my hand on it and hold it at the same time while pouring. And for 5 gallon fuel can's, it's even worse because of the added weight so you have to tip the can with one hand and keep the nozzle open with the other. So even a funnel doesn't help much unless it happens to be rigid enough to stay in place while you do all that.

So everyone will break it off or just dump it in without the nozzle and with the constant on/off of the cap like that, because they are just cheap plastic, they often wear out quickly if the rubber seal doesn't give out first.