5-6 ghz wireless

Dorkenstein

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Can anyone recommend a specific 5-6 ghz wireless router or wireless kit to me? Thanks.
 

spidey07

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G is only 2.4 Ghz. 802.11N is not a standard and should be avoided unless you have specific reasons to spend money on gear that will be useless.

What are you trying to do with wireless?
 

Dorkenstein

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Whoops again. I am just trying to get a really good signal in my house. Running a cable right now but I can't keep it there forever. Is 5 or 6 ghz only the A standard?
 

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Whoops again. I am just trying to get a really good signal in my house. Running a cable right now but I can't keep it there forever. Is 5 or 6 ghz only the A standard?

Well 5 Ghz (802.11a) doesn't penetrate walls as good as 2.4 (802.11g). The non-standard 802.11n stuff can use both.

I'd look at why you can't get a good signal in your house. There is no reason 802.11g can't do this unless your house is HUGE. Try changing channels to 1, 6, 11 to see what works best and eliminate interference (microwaves, cordless phones, bluetooth, etc).

If you live in condo or apartment 802.11a would be a good choice, but if you have a home g should be fine.
 

kevnich2

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Place 2 G AP's or wireless routers with DHCP turned off and not using the WAN port on opposite sides of the house. Or get two DDWRT routers and use WDS and strategically place them. G signal goes farther and penetrates better than 5ghz does. I can personally attest to this because I run both A & G in my house and my G goes everywhere wheras A only goes about 3/4 the distance.
 

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Whoops again. I am just trying to get a really good signal in my house. Running a cable right now but I can't keep it there forever. Is 5 or 6 ghz only the A standard?

5 GHz can have better throughput than 2.4 GHz because of lack of crowding of the wireless channels, but it doesn't have better range. In fact, it's often significantly worse.

If you really need high throughput and have a crowded wireless neighborhood, I suggest considering simultaneous dual-band -- 5 GHz for near-range high-throughput stuff, and 2.4 GHz for range / fallback / legacy.
 

JackMDS

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Dorkenstein, I know that Wireless is a strange bird to computer enthusiasts.

First thing you need to let go of concept like Kits, and One device magic solution.

The professional solution to Wireless coverage entails Network of Access Points.

Unfortunately a complete Wireless solution totally without cables (WDS) that is capable in Streaming High Def is Not really in existance.


The Vendors Con us to buy the draft-N but they take care of themselves by producing only basic Wireless Routers.

As a result the best solution for regular Wireless is to configure a WDS system with good 802.11g

When higher bandwidth is absolutely necessary the only countable solution is a combination of one few Draft-N Routers connected between them with wires and placed in key few spots.

It is a rather costly solution but the only one in existence until there would be an 802.11n standard the full gamut of Wireless devices would be available.

 

Dorkenstein

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Hmm. I will need one more router for this then. Is tomato better than DD-WRT as far as wireless strength/capability goes? Thanks.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Hmm. I will need one more router for this then. Is tomato better than DD-WRT as far as wireless strength/capability goes? Thanks.

There will be no difference in strength between tomato and DD-WRT. DD-WRT has more features but to me, tomato is easier to use.

If you need a faster full time connection without running ethernet wire than 802.11g can supply (even with multiple AP's), you might take a look at powerline networking devices which can achieve up to 190Mbps between them using your existing wiring (YMMV as some are better than others and it depends on your wiring). Just throwing out ideas.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Yeah I've tried powerline before. I bought the Panasonic kind, which was pricey.

That's what I used and it was the cheapest that I could find (of any brand). It runs a constant 30MBps or so with no hiccups. Might run faster if I moved it to another outlet or bridged the two 120V lines (that form 240V) in my breaker box with a small signal passthrough device....but not worth the trouble right now.
 

kevnich2

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Or you could just hire an electrician to run some ethernet cable to you in the wall? That's what I did for a reliable connection for my wife & I's office (opposite sides of the house)
 

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Like others have mentioned, 2.4GHz has better range.

In my experience, the best reception is with routers set up in Client Mode. I'd get 2 WRT54GL routers, use one as a standard router, and the other in client mode using dd-wrt or tomato firmware.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Like others have mentioned, 2.4GHz has better range.

In my experience, the best reception is with routers set up in Client Mode. I'd get 2 WRT54GL routers, use one as a standard router, and the other in client mode using dd-wrt or tomato firmware.

What's the difference in "client" mode and "bridge mode" (ethernet bridge)?

Sorry for the OT question....
 

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Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Like others have mentioned, 2.4GHz has better range.

In my experience, the best reception is with routers set up in Client Mode. I'd get 2 WRT54GL routers, use one as a standard router, and the other in client mode using dd-wrt or tomato firmware.

What's the difference in "client" mode and "bridge mode" (ethernet bridge)?

Sorry for the OT question....

Client Mode

Bridge mode

Basically in client mode, DD-WRT connects to your WAP as any other client and gets an IP address. Of course, you'll have 4 wired ports you can use and this DD-WRT client will have a DHCP server creating another subnet; a different network from your first WAP.

In bridge mode, the DD-WRT unit acts more like a switch, allowing any units wired to it to be part of the same subnet as the primary WAP.
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: xSauronx
Originally posted by: Engineer
Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Like others have mentioned, 2.4GHz has better range.

In my experience, the best reception is with routers set up in Client Mode. I'd get 2 WRT54GL routers, use one as a standard router, and the other in client mode using dd-wrt or tomato firmware.

What's the difference in "client" mode and "bridge mode" (ethernet bridge)?

Sorry for the OT question....

Client Mode

Bridge mode

Basically in client mode, DD-WRT connects to your WAP as any other client and gets an IP address. Of course, you'll have 4 wired ports you can use and this DD-WRT client will have a DHCP server creating another subnet; a different network from your first WAP.

In bridge mode, the DD-WRT unit acts more like a switch, allowing any units wired to it to be part of the same subnet as the primary WAP.

Thanks. I was looking for "Client" and "Bridge" under tomato and found little. Never thought to use DD-WRT in the search, lol. :eek:

 

Dorkenstein

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I have the two routers with Tomato 1.21 on them. Is the process much different than on DD-WRT?
 

JackMDS

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It is Not different in the principles.

However the DD-0WRT people created a confusion with the Bridge Client/Modenaming.

So read the Tomato instructions to see what is what in their menu naming scheme.