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Captante

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My Gigabyte B450 board had minimal RGB control but I do mean minimal. :(
 
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Captante

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I believe the latest version of W11 has some ambient lighting controls built in. Not sure what the compatibility is though.

I have lighting myself, but nothing addressable or controllable: a solid white LED strip around the inside top, plugged into a SATA power connector, and GPU that is a single color LED.

My RGB setup could be a freaking meme with all the wires and multiple hubs .... sucks!
 

In2Photos

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I prefer to use software for fan control. Most use very little resources and offer more control than the BIOS. Even better is that I don't have to go into the BIOS to change anything. Instead I can make changes on the fly without rebooting.
 
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I prefer to use software for fan control. Most use very little resources and offer more control than the BIOS. Even better is that I don't have to go into the BIOS to change anything. Instead I can make changes on the fly without rebooting.
I can certainly see the advantage there if you like to constantly tweak. I find the 4-5 point manual control given in BIOS sufficient, and I tend to just spend a small amount of time tweaking early in my testing cycles, so then I can just have it set and forget about it. No need to worry about programs breaking, or not loading after standby, or whatever.
 

biostud

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I prefer to use software for fan control. Most use very little resources and offer more control than the BIOS. Even better is that I don't have to go into the BIOS to change anything. Instead I can make changes on the fly without rebooting.
This, and unless you are competing for cinebench records, the few resources fancontrol uses, isn't going to be of any matter to the performance.
 
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In2Photos

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I can certainly see the advantage there if you like to constantly tweak. I find the 4-5 point manual control given in BIOS sufficient, and I tend to just spend a small amount of time tweaking early in my testing cycles, so then I can just have it set and forget about it. No need to worry about programs breaking, or not loading after standby, or whatever.
I didn't think I would tweak my settings after the initial setup. But then I played Avatar and I noticed my temps were higher than with other games so I opened the software and made a couple of tweaks. Never had to leave the game.

And with software like Fan Control you can use multiple sensors (like the highest GPU or CPU temp) to control fans instead of just a single sensor. But neither method is right or wrong. Use what works best for you in the end.
 

Captante

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Corsairs control software is QUITE the resource hog.... Fortunately it does offer a "hardware" mode so you have to load it initially but can then shut it down once settings are applied.
 

biostud

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Corsairs control software is QUITE the resource hog.... Fortunately it does offer a "hardware" mode so you have to load it initially but can then shut it down once settings are applied.
Hence the reason to use fancontrol, but as @In2Photos already stated, everyone should just do as they prefer :)
 

Captante

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You do know that a fan curve does not need to top out @ 100%?

If your AIO can cool 300W and your CPU is throwing out 150W, you should be able to max the curve at maybe 70%

In sustained gaming a 5800x @ 4.9 all-core gets pretty hot lol.... Between that and my 3080 that PC is a space-heater!

It was even louder when I had 6 Corsair maglev 120's in push/pull! (but barely any cooler)
 
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Captante

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Update

My mobo doesn't even have fan controls. Tf. It has tons of OC and options but not fan control

B650 pro wifi mobo
I find this difficult to believe .... What's the exact make, model and version ?
 

nOOky

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Nice build. I used the Corsair 5000X RGB case. I really wish I would have went with the 7000 series just because I could have, and even the 5000 is tight in places, especially if you have the HDD cage installed behind the PSU, it's a pain getting my hands in there.

I also bought a 4000X RGB because I wanted to downsize my spare gamer. Man that case is tiny, if you have any decent sized air cooler over your CPU. I have a big Noctua and while it clears the side of the case, there is literally no room around the big fans. I also have a liquid cooled GPU, and I cannot fit both in there. I bought a 240mm AIO to mount in the front, and I should be able to get my GPU radiator in the back. IMHO the 4000is a small case. I also bought a black case, so much harder to see the fans if you're into that, white and RGB is the way to go also IMHO.
 
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Zeze

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The tinted glass panel is a very nice touch. During the day, it's dark enough that it hides any cable management imperfections, or dust, etc. At night, if you have RGB, those shine through without problems at night. It's just like a SUV tint.

Not a big fan of RGB personally. I like how just the GPU 'gigabyte' logo is the only RGB quietly shining through. The case is sleek as hell as a clean sleeper look (as well as RGB).
 
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Just use fancontrol, it does a very good job combining GPU, CPU and case fan profiles.

This is great. Truly light weight.

Thanks to this prog (LOL), I mean app, it's good to see the detected fans and the RPM / thresholds / etc.

I have 2x case fans (front / rear) and 2x CPU fans (and GPU which is off at idle).

I turned all fans off (2x) and set the CPU fan to the lowest allowed, which is 33% at a low low 370 RPM~.

And it's still louder than my old rig with a rickety old case fans and CPU fans.

I'm too tired tonight, but I have a suspicion that it's because:
  • Open mesh case. I mean it's a mesh on all 5 sides of the case except the glass panel.
  • Probably PSU fan adds to it.
  • General 'noise' from motherboard itself or PSU that aren't fan related.
What can I do? The the fans are either all off or at their lowest and it's still louder at idle.
 

biostud

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This is great. Truly light weight.

Thanks to this prog (LOL), I mean app, it's good to see the detected fans and the RPM / thresholds / etc.

I have 2x case fans (front / rear) and 2x CPU fans (and GPU which is off at idle).

I turned all fans off (2x) and set the CPU fan to the lowest allowed, which is 33% at a low low 370 RPM~.

And it's still louder than my old rig with a rickety old case fans and CPU fans.

I'm too tired tonight, but I have a suspicion that it's because:
  • Open mesh case. I mean it's a mesh on all 5 sides of the case except the glass panel.
  • Probably PSU fan adds to it.
  • General 'noise' from motherboard itself or PSU that aren't fan related.
What can I do? The the fans are either all off or at their lowest and it's still louder at idle.
Are you sure you don't have a wire obstructing one of the fans? :p

But just to be clear, your CPU fan @33% makes more noise than your old total system?
 
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This is great. Truly light weight.

Thanks to this prog (LOL), I mean app, it's good to see the detected fans and the RPM / thresholds / etc.

I have 2x case fans (front / rear) and 2x CPU fans (and GPU which is off at idle).

I turned all fans off (2x) and set the CPU fan to the lowest allowed, which is 33% at a low low 370 RPM~.

And it's still louder than my old rig with a rickety old case fans and CPU fans.

I'm too tired tonight, but I have a suspicion that it's because:
  • Open mesh case. I mean it's a mesh on all 5 sides of the case except the glass panel.
  • Probably PSU fan adds to it.
  • General 'noise' from motherboard itself or PSU that aren't fan related.
What can I do? The the fans are either all off or at their lowest and it's still louder at idle.
It's only open on 3.5 sides: top, front, back, and below PSU.

Are you sure your fans are off? I find it hard to see how a CPU fan at less than 500 RPM is making a ton of noise, unless you also have some obstruction, or you have your head next to the case, or you live in an anechoic chamber.

The only other option is your fan speed is set too low, and you get some weird resonance effects.
 

In2Photos

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This is great. Truly light weight.

Thanks to this prog (LOL), I mean app, it's good to see the detected fans and the RPM / thresholds / etc.

I have 2x case fans (front / rear) and 2x CPU fans (and GPU which is off at idle).

I turned all fans off (2x) and set the CPU fan to the lowest allowed, which is 33% at a low low 370 RPM~.

And it's still louder than my old rig with a rickety old case fans and CPU fans.

I'm too tired tonight, but I have a suspicion that it's because:
  • Open mesh case. I mean it's a mesh on all 5 sides of the case except the glass panel.
  • Probably PSU fan adds to it.
  • General 'noise' from motherboard itself or PSU that aren't fan related.
What can I do? The the fans are either all off or at their lowest and it's still louder at idle.
Turn off the CPU fans. Is it still loud? You should NOT hear fans at 370 RPM unless there is some sort of obstruction. Are both CPU fans blowing air the same direction? What PSU do you have? Some PSUs have a zero speed fan mode, similar to the GPU. In my latest build I had a PSU that made a high pitched noise when the fan was running and it seemed to run more than it should. I swapped to a different PSU and now I don't hear it at all. I have 9 fans in my case plus 3 fans on the GPU and I can barely hear them unless I ramp up the speed.
 
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Turn off the CPU fans. Is it still loud? You should NOT hear fans at 370 RPM unless there is some sort of obstruction. Are both CPU fans blowing air the same direction? What PSU do you have? Some PSUs have a zero speed fan mode, similar to the GPU. In my latest build I had a PSU that made a high pitched noise when the fan was running and it seemed to run more than it should. I swapped to a different PSU and now I don't hear it at all. I have 9 fans in my case plus 3 fans on the GPU and I can barely hear them unless I ramp up the speed.
I have 3 intakes, 2 exhausts, and a CPU fan in my 4000D. Just a gentle and relatively quiet whoosh, barely above background noise when it's idle.

Fans are also set to not hit 50% until it's at least 50C at the CPU, and it's never that loud, even when gaming. I guess I can hear it when gaming when I take my headphones off, but it's definitely not that loud.
 

biostud

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I have 3 intakes, 2 exhausts, and a CPU fan in my 4000D. Just a gentle and relatively quiet whoosh, barely above background noise when it's idle.

Fans are also set to not hit 50% until it's at least 50C at the CPU, and it's never that loud, even when gaming. I guess I can hear it when gaming when I take my headphones off, but it's definitely not that loud.
Running a 7800X3D (or any single CCX zen4) can reach high temperatures without dumping too much heat in the case, so I've set up a fan curve where case fans never go above 50% for the CPU, but once the video card starts dumping heat then I've set the case fans to 80%.
 

Ajay

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And with software like Fan Control you can use multiple sensors (like the highest GPU or CPU temp) to control fans instead of just a single sensor. But neither method is right or wrong. Use what works best for you in the end.
That feature was a game changer for me. Really helped me keep fan speeds to a minimum unless gaming or running a CPU intensive app. The hysteresis settings help smooth out fast fan speed changes due to spikes in CPU temps, but it's not perfect.

Edit: poor wording
 
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