4k tv vs 1k tv

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poofyhairguy

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Everybody is waiting for OLED to come down. I don't see it happening.

Me neither. Samsung is pulling back on OLED TVs and LG can't carry the entire industry.

The future is curved 4K LEDs that are MAYBE not edge-lit if we are lucky.

Welcome to the Dark Ages of Display.
 

Kneedragger

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Me neither. Samsung is pulling back on OLED TVs and LG can't carry the entire industry.

The future is curved 4K LEDs that are MAYBE not edge-lit if we are lucky.

Welcome to the Dark Ages of Display.
At my local TV place they had a LG OLED set up and man the colors were awesome. Probably one of the best displays I've seen so far. I'm really looking forward to OLED becoming more mainstream.
 

Drako

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You're very wrong. 1920x1080 is 1K. 4X1080P=4K. It's four times the pixels of 1K, which is 1080P.

He is right, todays HDTV is considered "2K":

2052x1080(1920x1080) is ~2k horizontal.

uHDTV "4K":

4096x2160(3840x2160) is ~4k horizontal.

You are correct that there are 4 times more pixels. :)
 

poofyhairguy

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At my local TV place they had a LG OLED set up and man the colors were awesome. Probably one of the best displays I've seen so far. I'm really looking forward to OLED becoming more mainstream.

OLED is as good as it gets, but best case is years before its priced right at larger sizes.

We have this summer to buy Samsung plasma and then the party is over for TV picture quality value for a while.
 
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You're very wrong. 1920x1080 is 1K. 4X1080P=4K. It's four times the pixels of 1K, which is 1080P.

You are ignorant. The k measurement is for pixels measured horizontally, not veritcally. The 720p/1080p is for pixels measured vertically. Know your stuff before you make a fool of yourself.
 

ElFenix

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crap, definitely don't want to end up in the same boat with samsung as i did with panasonic. panasonic had a much better performance/feature progression than samsung, last i checked :(

i have a 1k panasonic plasma (regular HD actually is 1k, FHD is nearly 2k, U/QFHD is nearly 4k), need to upgrayyedd
 

cmdrdredd

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In short, 4k is not ready quite yet.

Make sure you understand the differences between the models you are considering. Don't take someone's word for it. Plasma has it's pros and cons like anything else.
 
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poofyhairguy

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my price point is somewhat less than half of that, where panasonic had clearly outclassed everything, and wasn't falling much behind the $2000 price point. hence the progression.

I feel you. That is why I bought a ST50 and then turned around next year and bought a ST60. Getting while the getting was good and all....
 

poofyhairguy

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Was there much of a noticeable picture quality difference between those two?

A little. The ST60 does a better job scaling content (anything lower than 1080p looks soft on the ST50), I can notice greater detail in darker scenes on the ST60, and the 96hz mode is sometimes better (sometimes worse) than the 60hz mode for 24p content.

Honestly the biggest upgrade is the smarttv stuff is much more snappy on the ST60.
 

MongGrel

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Buy a 51 inch 1080p Samsung plasma before they are all gone. I would rather have that than any sub-$2000 4K Tv.
What he said.

If I were to buy today I'd go that route.

I'm still using my Olevia 747i which I like but is an LCD, but still if you're going to do anything I wouldn't go 4K yet.

These things even went out of business or were bought up rather and they aren't like they used to be.

Still have an Olevia 37" in the bedroom that is great IMHO, but the new ones aren't what they used to be, if they even sell them, I think Emerson bought em out.
 
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Me neither. Samsung is pulling back on OLED TVs and LG can't carry the entire industry.

The future is curved 4K LEDs that are MAYBE not edge-lit if we are lucky.

Welcome to the Dark Ages of Display.

Last year, knowing what was going to happen, I bit the bullet and bought a VT50. It was exensive, but I got a good deal on it just as they were unveiling their last models, the 60 series. When they offered me 18 months no interest financing as well I just couldn't say no. It's a thing of beauty and hopefully will last me until QHD OLED comes down to reasonable prices.
 

ElFenix

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I feel you. That is why I bought a ST50 and then turned around next year and bought a ST60. Getting while the getting was good and all....

had both the 50 and 55 ST60 models in my cart on amazon starting sometime in late november or early december, thinking that maybe they'd come back in stock and go back down to where they'd been.


nope.


the H5000 is a bit more than i'd like to spend, and only comes in one size (ginormous).


parents have a zenith branded LG. other than being very reflective, is it really that much worse than the samsungs? the only 50" samsung is also entry-level.
 
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poofyhairguy

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parents have a zenith branded LG. other than being very reflective, is it really that much worse than the samsungs? the only 50" samsung is also entry-level.

LG's are considered a step down from Samsung plasmas in pretty much every way. It is still plasma, but honestly LG hasn't really improved those plasma sets since 2012.

You can get a 51 inch Samsung plasma that is not that entry-level 720p model. The F5300 is a pretty good plasma, only thing separating it and the upper-midrange model is the lack of smart TV functions and an improved AR filter. If you are putting the set in a room without any reflective light (like a window across from the TV) it should be fine.

They are still in stock at Sears:

http://www.sears.com/samsung-51inch-...p-05775373000P

I do think the 60 inch is a better value if you can afford a little more:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-...dtv/8182045.p?
 

Raincity

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The PN51F5300 is no slouch. Buying from a local big box seems the best way to go right now. All the internet vendors are already inflating the prices on the 5300 series.