4k 144Hz GSync Monitor!!!!!

moonbogg

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4K@144 is a seriously tall order. You'd have to constantly have two of the best cards out all the time and then deal with SLI issues, but a panel like this would be worth it, except for that huge 16:9 mistake they made.
 

thilanliyan

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Yeah I don't understand why you would want 4K at 27"...it seems like it would be much better at 32".
 

Excessi0n

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Yeah I don't understand why you would want 4K at 27"...it seems like it would be much better at 32".

Sharpness?

I mean, my monitor has ~96 PPI and it's like looking through a screen door. I can't stop seeing that until I'm something like twice as far away as I usually sit. At ~163 PPI, a 27" 4K monitor has a PPI 70% higher and should therefore go most of the way towards eliminating the screen-door effect for me. Aliasing should still stick out like a sore thumb though, so I'm not going to be completely satisfied until something like that 8K 32" Dell makes it to the mainstream market. Maybe. Might need 16K.
 

Chaotic42

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Sharpness?

I mean, my monitor has ~96 PPI and it's like looking through a screen door. I can't stop seeing that until I'm something like twice as far away as I usually sit. At ~163 PPI, a 27" 4K monitor has a PPI 70% higher and should therefore go most of the way towards eliminating the screen-door effect for me. Aliasing should still stick out like a sore thumb though, so I'm not going to be completely satisfied until something like that 8K 32" Dell makes it to the mainstream market. Maybe. Might need 16K.

I agree, and I guess I'm lucky in that I have better than normal vision. My complaint is that I wouldn't want a monitor smaller than 30". It's just not enough space. That Dell 8K is totally going on my list and I'm going to need to hide my credit card to keep from buying one at $5,000. :p
 

thilanliyan

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I sit about 2ft minimum away from my monitor though, so I don't notice individual pixels even on my 32" 2560x1440 monitor.
 

Excessi0n

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I sit about 2ft minimum away from my monitor though, so I don't notice individual pixels even on my 32" 2560x1440 monitor.

Funny thing is, my screen has almost exactly the same PPI as yours and it seems I sit about the same distance from it as you do. Just goes to show the difference that eyesight makes. Or maybe I'm just more sensitive to it for some reason.
 

tential

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Yeah I don't understand why you would want 4K at 27"...it seems like it would be much better at 32".
I will obviously not buy a 27" monitor.... I don't even understand how I use the monitor at my work place after I used a 32inch qnix 4k monitor. Very had.

The nice thing about this is simple. Once the tech is out, it will come to Korean monitors. The qnix was a great 32 inch option. I don't know of any option with similar specs on the market before it. Not at that price especially.

I'll just wait a month or two until the Koreans make a 32 inch version. Won't be long, it'll be cheaper, and it'll be what I want.

I love my current 32 inch 4k. It's beautiful.
 

Bacon1

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not sure if serious...

At high / close to "max" settings you would yes for most games. 4k usually runs under 60 fps even on Titan XP so to reach 144hz you'd need two. Obviously you could lower settings and not need two, but thats where his math is coming from ;)
 

biostud

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At high / close to "max" settings you would yes for most games. 4k usually runs under 60 fps even on Titan XP so to reach 144hz you'd need two. Obviously you could lower settings and not need two, but thats where his math is coming from ;)

but how and why you would get two NVidia cards to run in crossfire is the thing I don't understand. Most go for SLI when buying NVidia products. ;)
 

Termie

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I interviewed Nvidia at CES about this monitor and learned a few interesting things about how G-Sync is used, and how the monitor hits 144Hz at 4K despite the fact that DisplayPort doesn't directly support it. You can read more about that here.

Also, the point of this monitor isn't to run at 144Hz, it's to run at under 144Hz, and ideally at 80-120Hz where you get plenty of benefit without dropping too low. As I found in my recent article on 4K performance, dual GTX 1080 cards in SLI would be perfectly capable of taking advantage of this monitor.
 

Bacon1

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but how and why you would get two NVidia cards to run in crossfire is the thing I don't understand. Most go for SLI when buying NVidia products. ;)

Eh CFX and SLI are interchangeable. Same idea ;)

You can read more about that here.

So they reduce IQ to save on bandwidth...

You see, the previous HDMI 1.4 standard only supported 4K at 30Hz, but Nvidia got around that through drivers, reducing the color space from 4:4:4 to 4:2:0 in order to punch through the limits of HDMI at the time. As Nvidia's engineer explained, achieving 144Hz at 4K over DisplayPort 1.4 requires a 10% reduction of the color space. Expect to hear more regarding how this is achieved once the PG27UQ launches.
 

Thinker_145

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It seems strange to reduce the color space to hit the arbitrary 144hz on an HDR monitor instead of just sticking with 120hz....
Ya it's all a freaking game of numbers sadly and not about the actual freaking image quality. Also this is IPS I believe so fail.
 

Headfoot

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Ya it's all a freaking game of numbers sadly and not about the actual freaking image quality. Also this is IPS I believe so fail.

It's actually probably going to be quite solid on black levels despite IPS, because its got a massive 384 point array backlight. That should eliminate BLB and minimize IPS glow quite a bit. The Vizio 128 point FALD was enough to barely meet UHD Premium spec for HDR on one of their models so 384 should be even better
 

Thinker_145

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It's actually probably going to be quite solid on black levels despite IPS, because its got a massive 384 point array backlight. That should eliminate BLB and minimize IPS glow quite a bit. The Vizio 128 point FALD was enough to barely meet UHD Premium spec for HDR on one of their models so 384 should be even better
I want uniformity more than the black level. If my monitor had the same IQ across the board as it does in the center then I'll be pretty happy with it.
 
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lehtv

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Yeah, no shit.

for proper 4k we need 40"+ screens
Would you say 27" is a good size for a 2560x1440 screen? That results in 108.71 PPI. The same PPI on 3840x2160 needs a 40.5" screen. I would say that is the absolute maximum size for a 4K computer display (as opposed to a television). Even so, 40.5" is just going to be way too big to look at from a normal viewing distance (given that normally people have their display on the same desk with their keyboard and mouse). Even if the monitor is curved.

I'd much rather have an increase in size, resoluton and PPI, and avoid any hassle with the viewing distance. 32" for me would be the sweet spot, resulting in 137.68 PPI, or a 26.6% increase over 1440p@27", and a 50% increase over 1080p@24".
 
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http://wccftech.com/g-sync-hdr-monitors-available-q2-2017/

Tell me you're not excited guys... Doesn't matter what GPU you've got, 4K 144hz display technology is here! YES!

Edit:
It's "only" $1199
Given the price tag of current high end monitors like the ROG and predator currently at those prices for way less resolution.... YES!!!!!

These monitors are literally a dream come true. Will buy. Probably the Acer because I loved my XB270HU and my current XB321HK.
 

Yakk

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It seems strange to reduce the color space to hit the arbitrary 144hz on an HDR monitor instead of just sticking with 120hz....

Makes sense in a way, their target market can't appreciate the better color space anyways, and they get to keep the HDR checkbox for marketing purposes.

Is it deceitful? I'd say definitely yes, but people will buy it with enough marketing.