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coldpower27
Golden Member
Be patient, the Core 2 Duo E5200 is the first of the Pentium DC E2xxx replacements, over time we will have faster versions and the E5200 will fall to 74, 64 when the E5300/E5400 are introduced later on.
I think waiting for the verification on SSE 4.1 is needed, without jumping the gun on a decision.
If and when the games start sporting it, they are already estimating 30-40% performance jumps in the labs right now. The E7200 keeps going down, and that $50 for 4.1 support would be no different than ante for a stronger video card. Core clock speed is good, but when the budget starts pulling down other components it is a no win situation.
If and when the games start sporting it, they are already estimating 30-40% performance jumps in the labs right now. The E7200 keeps going down, and that $50 for 4.1 support would be no different than ante for a stronger video card. Core clock speed is good, but when the budget starts pulling down other components it is a no win situation.
Are you saying that 8 of 10 X2's didn't overclock at all?
I've had 4 AMD X2's of different flavors, they all overclocked excellent and ran reasonably cool on air.
No, they didn't overclock as well as the three e2180's, one e2140 and one e6400 that I have tried, but the AMD X2 was still a good overclocker in my experience.
Plus nearing 3.2GHz and 1.4ish volts the Allendales definately require good air cooling, easily generating temps more or less the same as an overclocked X2, if not more.
VirtualLarry
No Lifer
On the stock heatsink? Wow.
My E2140s @ 3.2Ghz, 1.425v (BIOS), 1.36v (CPU-Z), get up to 83C with CoolerMaster Hyper TX2 heatsinks, TjunctionMax of 100C. So 17 away from TJmax.
With the stock heatsink, I was getting temps easily 10C or more higher. Enough that I thought that I would exceed Intel's Tcase specification, BIOS temps were reaching 70C.
I don't run it at that speed 24/7, I was just curious what the upper limit of my chip was. CPU temps would exceed 80C otherwise, and even if its stable I'm not comfortable with it.
I actually have it at 2.5GHz / 1.1V undervolted for daily use, it runs very cool at this setting. 😉
I actually have it at 2.5GHz / 1.1V undervolted for daily use, it runs very cool at this setting. 😉
It's auguest, still haven't seen nothing on E5200s, this chip looks like a paper launch by the day. Intel probably don't figure these is enough incentive to push out a low end 45nm at this time. AMD's been so quiet I wonder when they will release something new again to compete.
Paper launch is when the manufacturer introduces it but no product is available.
Of course there is incentive. If you read any AMD cpu threads, a common reason given for buying AMD is that it is competitive on the low end. If this comes out around $84 it will be even less reason to go with AMD. Just leaves them the sub $70 market, those who want 780G/derivative based htpcs and the amd diehards.
Insomniator
Diamond Member
How does an X2 @ 3.2 ghz compare to these chips? If its only 80 bucks...
Would it be worth it to sell my 5000+/abit kn9 SLI for whatever I could get (maybe 100?) and pick up one of these chips and board?
Would it be worth it to sell my 5000+/abit kn9 SLI for whatever I could get (maybe 100?) and pick up one of these chips and board?
By my estimates, an X2 would be about 35% slower per clock. Assuming a 3.6GHz overclock from an E5200, that puts it roughly ~50% faster all up.
If you can sell your current mobo/CPU for a good deal, why not? SLI mobos for Intel aren't that cheap though, but if you are happy with CF then ~$100 should just about cover the cost of a P45 mobo.
Insomniator
Diamond Member
Yeah I have a 4850 so cf would be better for me anyway. Just bought a blue orb II for the x2 but it comes with 775 brackets.
interesting! this thing needs to be out now.
interesting! this thing needs to be out now.
If its gaming performance you're looking at, I'd revise my estimate down to 25 - 30% faster per clock. Gaming performance generally gets hit the hardest from smaller caches, so the relative performance penalty from the 2MB cache on the E5200 would be higher than most other applications and benchmarks.
Still, it should be a good 40%+ increase over your current X2 - provided you are CPU bottlenecked in games that is. It goes without saying that at high res the GPU plays a more important role than the CPU.
Insomniator
Diamond Member
True, gaming at 19x12 with a 4850 right now cpu prob wouldnt make a difference for now the swap could be worth it down the line.
soccerballtux
Lifer
Down the line you'd rather have 4 cores.
Only way to futureproof would be a 3.8Ghz Penryn IMO. You'd have the ghz, and the quad.
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