4GB GTX680 on the way

[Corporate Thug]

http://hardocp.com/news/2012/03/26/4gb_galaxy_hall_fame_gtx_680_gpus_coming63

I'd like to see how this stacks up w/ the 7970 at higher res.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

6+8 pin as well, should OC better than reference.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

triple sli those babies

 

[Silverforce11]

A 4gb gtx680 should end any reason to have 7970s at comparable prices, as it should really scream in multi-card and multi monitor setups.

But given the bad pricing so far on 28nm, it's prolly going to go at $600.

 

[3DVagabond]

A 4gb gtx680 should end any reason to have 7970s at comparable prices, as it should really scream in multi-card and multi monitor setups.

But given the bad pricing so far on 28nm, it's prolly going to go at $600.

Increasing the amt. of RAM doesn't increase bandwidth. The 7970 is still going to win there. It's going to be a really rare situation where 2GB of RAM isn't enough.

 

[exar333]

Interestingly enough, one of the slides shows 8+8 power connectors. I wonder if that will be a different model? It shows the TDP at 300w!! That could be amazing...

 

[SolMiester]

Interestingly enough, one of the slides shows 8+8 power connectors. I wonder if that will be a different model? It shows the TDP at 300w!! That could be amazing...

Just had it pointed out to me that 8+8 = 375TDP, 300 is only 6+8.....lots of OC room.....and if the memory goes up to 7ghz, we will really start to see some benefit...

 

[Skurge]

Looks like a pointless card, the 680 is already faster, more memory would fix it's one achilies heel which is bandwidth, just make it more expensive and 2GB of ram is more than enough, 3GB on the 7970 is overkill.

Although thats what some nvidia fans said about 2GB, now they are excited about 4GB? Whatever, at least its not as bad as that 6GB 7970.

 

[Grooveriding]

Looks like a pointless card, the 680 is already faster, more memory would fix it's one achilies heel which is bandwidth, just make it more expensive and 2GB of ram is more than enough, 3GB on the 7970 is overkill.

Although thats what some nvidia fans said about 2GB, now they are excited about 4GB? Whatever, at least its not as bad as that 6GB 7970.

You mean wouldn't I assume ?

 

[Magic Carpet]

Increasing the amt. of RAM doesn't increase bandwidth. The 7970 is still going to win there. It's going to be a really rare situation where 2GB of RAM isn't enough.

+1. Pure marketing.

 

[Stayfr0sty]

Increasing the amount of RAM on a card is just a marketing gimmick.
Hence you see low to mid range cards with so and so amount of RAM and the unaware/ignorant n00b thinks its gonna be a beast cause of all the RAM.
What matters is the memory architecture and bandwith and shader count, period.

 

[kidsafe]

The practical limitations for OCing both the 680 and 7970 are probably the 28nm process itself and air/water-cooled temperatures. 12 power phases and 8+6 PEG is likely completely unnecessary unless you're on LN2, and then both cards have already been OC'd to 1800-1900MHz.

 

[dust]

Increasing the amount of RAM on a card is just a marketing gimmick.
Hence you see low to mid range cards with so and so amount of RAM and the unaware/ignorant n00b thinks its gonna be a beast cause of all the RAM.
What matters is the memory architecture and bandwith and shader count, period.

Droolfest for the retailers:thumbsup:

 

[Stayfr0sty]

Droolfest for the retailers:thumbsup:

Foreel.
I used to work for one. The customers were n00bs, even their "IT" guys were n00bs. One guy didnt even know how to install a dual boot on a rig.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

6+8 pin as well, should OC better than reference.

Should do better, but I've been reading that the gtx680 doesn't scale as well as the 7970 with clock speed?

Either way, I'm really damn excited to see what big kepler brings to the table. 7970 will be a decent placeholder for that card lol.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

You might not believe me now, but I am 80-90% certain that the big kepler will be available in nearly all parts of the world no sooner than September or October at the very earliest and would increase performance over a stock 680 by about 15-25%. No idea about its oc room but hopefully won't be worse there either

So the big Kepler will be a bit faster than a highly Oced 680, that is about it. You will see this when it happens and the chance of this statement going wrong is just 10%.

 

[Cookie Monster]

The practical limitations for OCing both the 680 and 7970 are probably the 28nm process itself and air/water-cooled temperatures. 12 power phases and 8+6 PEG is likely completely unnecessary unless you're on LN2, and then both cards have already been OC'd to 1800-1900MHz.

For the GTX680 it could make a difference seeing as the stock PCB circuitry looks almost bare minimum.. and I should know since I do that sort of work

 

[Leadbox]

Won't this just end up the same as GTX 580 1.5GB vs 3.0GB - 0-3% improvements?

 

[Grooveriding]

The practical limitations for OCing both the 680 and 7970 are probably the 28nm process itself and air/water-cooled temperatures. 12 power phases and 8+6 PEG is likely completely unnecessary unless you're on LN2, and then both cards have already been OC'd to 1800-1900MHz.

My 2 cards are getting here today. I'm going to see what difference temperature makes to the GPU boost feature. Everything I've read has consistently mentioned temps as playing a big role in defining at what point the card throttles back, 72C is the number I keep hearing.

I ordered a few waterblocks from EK directly, hopefully they come before the weekend.

Going to do a few different benches on air using 3dmark, furmark and some crysis_gpu loops to track temp, volts, clocks and power use. Will do them at stock and then whatever the max overclock I can get without crossing the throttle threshold.

Will repeat them all once I get my blocks in and installed, as well as seeing if much lower temps open the GPU boost & overclock up more. Hoping to find a significant difference so I feel better about ordering the blocks!

 

[BoFox]

My 2 cards are getting here today. I'm going to see what difference temperature makes to the GPU boost feature. Everything I've read has consistently mentioned temps as playing a big role in defining at what point the card throttles back, 72C is the number I keep hearing.

I ordered a few waterblocks from EK directly, hopefully they come before the weekend.

Going to do a few different benches on air using 3dmark, furmark and some crysis_gpu loops to track temp, volts, clocks and power use. Will do them at stock and then whatever the max overclock I can get without crossing the throttle threshold.

Will repeat them all once I get my blocks in and installed, as well as seeing if much lower temps open the GPU boost & overclock up more. Hoping to find a significant difference so I feel better about ordering the blocks!

Most sites say about 70C is when the card refuses to hit the highest "Boost" step, and that over 70C does not really affect the lower steps. Simply increasing the power threshold for boost to the max makes the card stay at 2nd highest boost step all the time. At least that's how some review sites explained it, IIRC..

 

[ViviTheMage]

Increasing the amt. of RAM doesn't increase bandwidth. The 7970 is still going to win there. It's going to be a really rare situation where 2GB of RAM isn't enough.

Yeah, I have no issues with being an early adopter of the 2GB version...really, what resolutions need more then 2GB? I know there are people that would need it, but who, and what resolutions?

 

[Stuka87]

The 4GB version will most likely be way overpriced just like the 3GB 580 was.

You can argue 2GB over 1GB pretty easily, but no way you can argue 4GB over 2GB. Maybe in 3-4 years, but certainly not today.

 

[AdamK47]

I'd be all for it if doubling the memory also ment going from 256-bit to 512-bit.

 

[Silverforce11]

I'm pretty sure users with 3 x 30 inch monitors would appreciate the extra vram for their tri or quad SLI.. there's always a few of those "too rich to know value".

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Should do better, but I've been reading that the gtx680 doesn't scale as well as the 7970 with clock speed?

Either way, I'm really damn excited to see what big kepler brings to the table. 7970 will be a decent placeholder for that card lol.

You've been reading people who aren't able to discern the actual stock operating frequency. The same people then assume Kepler scales poorly based on the idea that is somehow manages to never boost past 1006MHz at stock.