4770k vs. 4830k consensus?

[wand3r3r]

What's the current consensus on those two cpus overall now that they've been out for a while (multipurpose + OC). I'm seeing a number of haswell complaints that people can't literally break 4.2-4.2GHz which is a pathetic overclock, so do you suffer the slight IPC penalty and go 4830k?

Since they are priced similarly I'm just curious about the opinions now that they've been out a while. Quad SLI/Crossfire is clear, but without that in mind?

 

[tweakboy]

Def go with 4770k But you must free OC to 4.2Ghz and take it from there. free OC = no voltage changes.

IF u wanna take it above 4.2 then you need to start touching voltage and potentially go to 1.4v depending on how far you wanna OC. gl

 

[ShintaiDK]

Isnt the 4830K only purpose to get 40 PCIe lanes and more than 32GB memory? I cant see any benefit besides that. And in that case, if you could afford that you could also afford the hexcore.

 

[(sic)Klown12]

I would go with the 4770K. It has a much improved chipset (X79 is extremely outdated and has to rely on 3rd party chips for a lot of newer features) and the latter batches seem to overclock a lot better than the initial review indicate, with a lot looking to hit 4.5+ with decent voltages. Add that with the higher IPC and lower power usage and I can't see any kind of advantage for the 4830K.

 

[Puppies04]

I'm seeing a number of haswell complaints that people can't literally break 4.2-4.2GHz which is a pathetic overclock, so do you suffer the slight IPC penalty and go 4830k?

Are these people using cheapo mobo's and do they have any idea what they are doing or are they just pressing the pretty auto overclock button and shoving enough voltage through their CPU to hit 4.6ghz?

 

[tweakboy]

I would go with the 4770K. It has a much improved chipset (X79 is extremely outdated and has to rely on 3rd party chips for a lot of newer features) and the latter batches seem to overclock a lot better than the initial review indicate, with a lot looking to hit 4.5+ with decent voltages. Add that with the higher IPC and lower power usage and I can't see any kind of advantage for the 4830K.

Nice CPU sickclown .... Ill be getting my 4930k soon within a month. How do you like it ??? what did you upgrade from ?

 

[mindbomb]

i think im in the minority that prefers the 4820k.
The thing that really hurts it is x79 prices.

 

[cbn]

What's the current consensus on those two cpus overall now that they've been out for a while (multipurpose + OC). I'm seeing a number of haswell complaints that people can't literally break 4.2-4.2GHz which is a pathetic overclock, so do you suffer the slight IPC penalty and go 4830k?

Since they are priced similarly I'm just curious about the opinions now that they've been out a while. Quad SLI/Crossfire is clear, but without that in mind?

Do you mean 4820K (quad core)?

 

[BUnit1701]

What's the current consensus on those two cpus overall now that they've been out for a while (multipurpose + OC). I'm seeing a number of haswell complaints that people can't literally break 4.2-4.2GHz which is a pathetic overclock, so do you suffer the slight IPC penalty and go 4830k?

Since they are priced similarly I'm just curious about the opinions now that they've been out a while. Quad SLI/Crossfire is clear, but without that in mind?

Do you judge your overclock by the clock speed or the performance you get? If the number is more important, then you would be justified in taking the IPC hit. If the performance is key, then I would say you will be hard pressed to tell the difference.

 

[CHADBOGA]

i think im in the minority that prefers the 4820k.

What are your reasons for this?

 

[NTMBK]

What are your reasons for this?

Bigger numbers

 

[Subyman]

I'd go with the x79 for the potential hex core upgrade in the future.

 

[tweakboy]

Isnt the 4830K only purpose to get 40 PCIe lanes and more than 32GB memory? I cant see any benefit besides that. And in that case, if you could afford that you could also afford the hexcore.

YES!

 

[RaistlinZ]

There was a review done recently (can't recall where I saw it) that showed the extra PCI-E lanes and higher memory bandwidth didn't lead to any actual performance increase over a 4770k.

Are you actually thinking of going Qual SLI? If not, I'd think the 4770k is the better option.

 

[seitur]

Platform cost more and it's pointless as per previous users said.

Much cheaper to buy 3770k.
Still cheaper with better performance to get 4770k.

 

[Brahmzy]

I have a feeling the latest 4770Ks are yielding better - I got a brand spanky new one and it's gaming at 4.6 on just a H110.

 

[blackened23]

What are your reasons for this?

4930K overclocked will be better in BF4, perhaps?

 

[Grooveriding]

Get a 4930K, 4820K seems pointless imo.

 

[tweakboy]

Get a 4930K, 4820K seems pointless imo.

I agree.

 

[guskline]

I'm happy with my 3930k "under water"

 

[ehume]

My 4770k is stable at 4.7GHz -- until I try AVX or AVX2. What limits me is that I have no desire to throttle if I am surprised by code that uses AVX or AVX2; so I stay at 4.3GHz. So if you are willing to de-lid, you ought to be able to OC quite well.

(Looking forward to Haswell-E. I'm hoping it will be soldered like the current Ivy Bridge-E line.)

 

[YBS1]

I can't imagine any good reason to go with a 4820K over a 4770K. If the current X79 platform had an upgrade path to Haswell-E, then yes, but it doesn't. If you want to go X79 there is no reason not to go hex core. If you need an amount of ram that requires X79, again you'd probably also want the hex core. I'd take the ipc improvements of Haswell over the limited advantages of X79 anyday if I was restricting myself to quad core.

You know what...before anyone comments further you may want to clarify if you are interested in the 4820K or 4930K, very different beasts indeed and with you posting "4830K" we have no idea which one you are interested in. With the "priced similarly" comment I'm going on the assumption you mean 4820K.

 

[mindbomb]

What are your reasons for this?

quad channel ram and 32+gb ram support for ram disks
solder like sandybridge for overclocking
upgrade path to hex cores.
the increased cache sorta offsets the worse ipc.
and i have no need for intel graphics.

i would miss that sweet avx 2 support though. that is definitely going to be a big deal.
that and motherboard prices are the only real downside imo.

 

[toyota]

1.quad channel ram and 32+gb ram support for ram disks
2.solder like sandybridge for overclocking
3.upgrade path to hex cores.
4.and i have no need for intel graphics.

i would miss that sweet avx 2 support though. that is definitely going to be a big deal.

1. quad channel means nothing and 32gb on a 4770k setup is plenty for a large 16 gb. if you need more than get an SSD which makes more sense anyway.

2. so what as the IPC advantage of Haswell will wipe out almost any additional ocing the 4830k can do.

3. if hex is important then do that now as upgrading to another already outdated architecture cpu in the future seems silly.

4. what difference does that make as it wont be used anyway with discrete card. if anything it can be a back up if you happen to be between cards

and as others have said, Haswell platform is cheaper and has some newer features. 4770k just makes more sense for you.

 

[mindbomb]

i think its a given that pretty much any high end computer built with either a 4770k or 4820k in 2013 will have an ssd. Ram disks are still great though