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Xarick

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so I need something to replace my 8800gts 320 for gaming at 1920x1080. I waited for the 470 because I really like the ability to use physx, but I am not thrilled about the high heat.
Power doesnt bug my 750w trupower much. I am unsure what to do.
 
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NoQuarter

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You could just use the 8800 GTS as a dedicated PhysX card and then buy either the 470 or 5850, you really ought to use a dedicated GPU for PhysX anyway rather than sap rendering power for it.
 
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If money is not an issue and those two are the ones you can only choose, I'd go with the GTX470 simply because it's faster. I wouldn't worry about the heat.
 
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NoQuarter said:
You could just use the 8800 GTS as a dedicated PhysX card and then buy either the 470 or 5850, you really ought to use a dedicated GPU for PhysX anyway rather than sap rendering power for it.
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Nvidia software blocks GPU hardware acceleration of PhysX if it detects an ATI card in your system now. There are work around for this but it's a PIA that we shouldn't have to bother with.
 
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Xarick said:
so I need something to replace my 8800gts 320 for gaming at 1920x1080. I waited for the 470 because I really like the ability to use physx, but I am not thrilled about the high heat.
Power doesnt bug my 750w trupower much. I am unsure what to do.
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Well if physX is really important to you, well those extra $$$ are giving you that and a tad more performance.

I wouldn't worry very much with heat and power consumption on a 470 - yes its more that the 5850/5870 but not really as bad (actually it is the 5xxx series that is quote good in that department) as a GTX 480.
 
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TemjinGold

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I assume you've actually used physx then? Try this: Play the same games with physx off. See if you can "live with" that. The likelihood is that you won't really notice it missing except for your games running faster. If you CAN notice the difference and can't live without physx, grab the 470. If you (like most folks) can't notice the benefits, then grab a 5850.
 
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Xarick

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Money is an object. I only have one GPU slot.
Also.. with the 470 being as expensive as it is I wonder if would be better to grab a 5870 if one went on sale enough to get it to 470 price level.
 
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ZimZum

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Get a 5850 and OC it. It will easily reach 5870 level performance if not surpass it. Its the best for the buck this generation.
 
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Hauk

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I was wondering when the A vs. B posts would start popping up. :)

What ZimZum said..
 
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Rezist

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470 isn't a bad buy, sure it's not the deal the 5850 is but it's still decent.

If you like nVidia go with the 470.

I haven't seen a good 470 OC'ed review yet but the 5850 does OC well.
 
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badb0y

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5850 is the better buy, I think it's like 5% slower but costs $50 less so it's up to you how much you value those 5% at.
 
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Dark Shroud said:
Nvidia software blocks GPU hardware acceleration of PhysX if it detects an ATI card in your system now. There are work around for this but it's a PIA that we shouldn't have to bother with.
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You're right, we shouldn't have to bother with it, but nVidia is forcing us to. But given the option I'd rather hack it than be forced to be loyal to nVidia. Although after playing games with PhysX, I'd rather not bother with it at all.
 
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tviceman

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TemjinGold said:
I assume you've actually used physx then? Try this: Play the same games with physx off. See if you can "live with" that. The likelihood is that you won't really notice it missing except for your games running faster.
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GPU accelerated Physx isn't wide spread, but it's definitely noticeable in every major game that it is used in that I own (Mirror's Edge, Batman, Darkest of Days, and Cryostasis).

We definitely need some gtx470 overclocking reviews/analysis to see how well it can overclock and how well it can scale when overclocked.
 
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digitaldurandal

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The 480 is legitimate product that is competitive although priced high, the 470 shouldn't be on any nonfanboi's buy list.

Currently 5770, 5850, 5870, 480, 5970 are in control of their perspective prices imo.

Physx is a joke, the only two good games to use it effectively are Batman and Mirror's Edge. Darkest Days and Cryostasis, meh.

Don't get me wrong I hope Nvidia can come back with a killer refresh of Fermi but this round Nvidia loses. This is coming from someone who has SLI 285s - now using a 5870.
 
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rodrigu3

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if heat is your concern, I haven't seen any issues regarding the 470 from people who got their cards early
 
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Patrick Wolf

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I want PhysX when it provides a nice visual boost, but I'm not to going to support nvidia or play any good PhysX games (which is like 3-4 on my long list) until nvidia gets their shit together.
 
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Um... I can put my old 8800GTS in with my 5850 and use it for dedicated PhysX processing ?!?! Why didn't somebody tell me this???
 
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