44th Anniversary of Israel's Attack on USS Liberty - 34 Killed, 173 Wounded

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More on America's "Special Friend", Israel -

http://www.usslibertyveterans.org/

"ON JUNE 8, 1967, while patrolling in international waters in the Eastern Mediterranean Sea, USS Liberty (AGTR-5) was savagely attacked without warning or justification by air and naval forces of the state of Israel. Of a crew of 294 officers and men (including three civilians), the ship suffered thirty four (34) killed in action and one hundred seventy three (173) wounded in action. The ship itself, a Forty Million ($40,000,000) Dollar state of the art signals intelligence (SIGINT) platform, was so badly damaged that it never sailed on an operational mission again and was sold in 1970 for $101,666.66 as scrap.

At 1400 hours, while approximately about 17 nautical miles off the northern Sinai coast and about 25 nautical miles northwest of El Arish, USS Liberty’s crew observed three surface radar contacts closing with their position at high speed. A few moments later, the bridge radar crew observed high speed aircraft passing over the surface returns on the same heading. Within a few short moments, and without any warning, Israeli fighter aircraft launched a rocket attack on USS Liberty. The aircraft made repeated firing passes, attacking USS Liberty with rockets and their internal cannons. After the first flight of fighter aircraft had exhausted their ordnance, subsequent flights of Israeli fighter aircraft continued to prosecute the attack with rockets, cannon fire, and napalm.

During the air attack, USS Liberty’s crew had difficulty contacting Sixth Fleet to request assistance due to intense communications jamming The initial targets on the ship were the command bridge, communications antennas, and the four .50 caliber machine guns, placed on the ship to repel boarders. After the Israeli fighter aircraft completed their attacks, three Israeli torpedo boats arrived and began a surface attack about 35 minutes after the start of the air attack. The torpedo boats launched a total of five torpedoes, one of which struck the side of USS Liberty, opposite the ship’s research spaces. Twenty-five Americans, in addition to the nine who had been killed in the earlier air attacks, were killed as a result of this explosion."


http://www.gtr5.com/

"On June 8, 1967, US Navy intelligence ship USS Liberty was suddenly and brutally attacked on the high seas in international waters by the air and naval forces of Israel. The Israeli forces attacked with full knowledge that this was an American ship and lied about it. Survivors have been forbidden for 40 years to tell their story under oath to the American public. The USS Liberty Memorial web site tells their story and is dedicated to the memory of the 34 brave men who died.

The Attack

After surveilling USS Liberty for more than nine hours with almost hourly aircraft overflights and radar tracking, the air and naval forces of Israel attacked our ship in international waters without warning. USS Liberty was identified as a US naval ship by Israeli reconnaissance aircraft nine hours before the attack and continuously tracked by Israeli radar and aircraft thereafter. Sailing in international waters at less than five knots, with no offensive armament, our ship was not a military threat to anyone."


With "friends" like Israel - the United States certainly doesn't need enemies.
 

Jaskalas

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I believe I mentioned this last year, our government handled the response to Israel. I accept the extent of that response, for actions done a full generation before I was born.

America has another special friend, the British. I need not tell you where that began. Or how about the Japanese? I love them, but 70 years ago we killed them by a few hundred thousand.

Not to tarnish those we lost that day, but I need to state this if you feel inclined to go further than remembrance and intend to speak of this in some relation to our current policy.

Should such action be taken again by Israel, the response I’d demand would be swift and strong. Our loss to them is noted, but our loss to their enemy is far greater. Israel is useful to us in that regard.
 

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The attack was exhaustively investigated by both the United States and Israel. The conclusion on both sides was that the attack was the result of mistaken identity.

The official US report:

http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/uss_liberty/attack_sigint.pdf

Mistakes happen. U.S. soldiers are often killed by "friendly fire." Your conclusion has the stench of a badly-rotting ulterior motive.
 

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So the point of this thread is to show you're, um, hopelessly clueless?
 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again; Israel will gladly hide behind a wounded America for cover fire. They have no regard for our lives and this incident proves it.

We are not important to them. The funds, tech and support supplied to them were vital back when modern Israel was being created. Today; with nukes, modern army, their own economy and the thirst for whatever it is they are looking for, the US is of no use to them.

I wonder what would happen to the Middle East if American Big Oil decided to dump all it's money and efforts on finding and creating a non-fossil fuel based enegry source. I bet all the problems of the US would go away, overnight. We would no longer give a fuck about a bunch of sun burnt maniacs (Jews and Muslims), and they can murder each other until the end of time.

Our military in Iraq/Apghan and support for Israel exists for one reason; oil. There is no use or reason for us to be there. This spreading Democracy and Freedom bullshit should be placed right where it came from; your ass. Because once oil is no longer an issue, that entire region is on it's own.

It deserves the fate it is setting for itself; total destruction. It's a shame we moved in there and refuse to let them all go to hell because AH-MERI-KAN BIG AWWLL refuses to do something to benefit man kind.
 

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The attack was exhaustively investigated by both the United States and Israel. The conclusion on both sides was that the attack was the result of mistaken identity.

The official US report:

http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/uss_liberty/attack_sigint.pdf

Mistakes happen. U.S. soldiers are often killed by "friendly fire." Your conclusion has the stench of a badly-rotting ulterior motive.
I wouldn't trust what a Federal Agency says, especially one with "National Security" in the name.

It's pretty much clear that Israel did it on purpose(http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/margolis12.html); they also fucked the British and the Americans over before and after and the middle eastern conflict is like a major organ to the health of the American state.

It's long past due for Americans to reject interventionism and alliances.
So the point of this thread is to show you're, um, hopelessly clueless?
He's not about this, that's for sure.
 

Nebor

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Jeez, the Israelis must be pretty badass to have taken on the US Navy. We should be careful not to cross them.
 

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I knew a guy who waqs on the ship and he said the Israelis knew EXACTLY what they were doing.
 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again; Israel will gladly hide behind a wounded America for cover fire. They have no regard for our lives and this incident proves it.

We are not important to them. The funds, tech and support supplied to them were vital back when modern Israel was being created. Today; with nukes, modern army, their own economy and the thirst for whatever it is they are looking for, the US is of no use to them.

US didn't do much for Israel before 1967. It was the French who helped Israel the most back then.

Historically I find the part in bold especially entertaining as of all of US allys, Israel was the only one who didn't require American soldiers to protect, even when USSR sent Soviet troops to fight for the Arabs. Ironic indeed.
 

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I have no reason to disbelieve the results of the numerous US government investigations that have been done regarding this over the years, which have spanned multiple administrations and multiple departments. The earliest of these was way back before the AIPAC days, long before anyone could claim powerful lobby interests. There was simply no reason for the US to cover up an attack on its own ship.

Furthermore, the theory of motive makes no sense. Supposedly the Israelis attacked the US ship and were hoping the Americans would think they were Egyptian planes and then come into the war on Israel's side. However, Israel cut off the attack, identified themselves, and evaculated the injured to hospitals in Israel. Seems rather counter-productive to identify yourself when your purpose is to deceive the target into thinking you are someone else.

- wolf
 

Craig234

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I knew a guy who waqs on the ship and he said the Israelis knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

I've heard the same, but I haven't heard any clear evidence on what level Israel knew - from the pilot on up to senior military commanders.

We'd had our own problems a few years before trying to tell the President whether our navy ship had actually encountered a North Vietnamese ship at the Gulf of Tonkin.

(We started a pretty large war on the pretense of that attack that had not happened; the one that did was reportedly attacking South Vietnamese terrorists sneaking in.)
 

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I knew a guy who waqs on the ship and he said the Israelis knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

Really? A sailor on the Liberty was able to know the intentions of the Israeli's?

Did he know the intentions of his own captain, whom sailed the Liberty into a war zone in violation of orders not to?
 

Craig234

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I have no reason to disbelieve the results of the numerous US government investigations that have been done regarding this over the years, which have spanned multiple administrations and multiple departments. The earliest of these was way back before the AIPAC days, long before anyone could claim powerful lobby interests. There was simply no reason for the US to cover up an attack on its own ship.

Furthermore, the theory of motive makes no sense. Supposedly the Israelis attacked the US ship and were hoping the Americans would think they were Egyptian planes and then come into the war on Israel's side. However, Israel cut off the attack, identified themselves, and evaculated the injured to hospitals in Israel. Seems rather counter-productive to identify yourself when your purpose is to deceive the target into thinking you are someone else.

- wolf

I disagree with you a bit on a US motive to cover it up; almost immediately, the US decided to start supporting Israel because they had done well in the war.

If the US had publicly said Israel had attacked them, it would have forced things the US did not want, in terms of retaliation and/or developing relations.

I agree with you more on Israel's motive being a question; and that would vary depending what level would have chosen it, from pilot on up.

In a controversial speculation, James Bamford suggested that Israel was not wanting witnesses to what it was doing. I can't say much of an opinion about that.

Here's a pretty riveting excerpt from his book which is mostly not about this issue:

Three days after Israel had launched the six- day war, Egyptian prisoners in the Sinai had become a nuisance. There was no place to house them, not enough Israelis to watch them, and few vehicles to transport them to prison camps. But there was another way to deal with them.

As the Liberty sat within eyeshot of El Arish, eavesdropping on surrounding communications, Israeli soldiers turned the town into a slaughterhouse, systematically butchering their prisoners. An eyewitness recounted how in the shadow of the El Arish mosque, they lined up about 60 unarmed Egyptian prisoners, hands tied behind their backs, and then opened fire with machine guns until the pale desert sand turned red.

This and other war crimes were just some of the secrets Israel had sought to conceal since the start of the conflict. An essential element in the Israeli battle plan seemed to have been to hide much of the war behind a carefully constructed curtain of lies: lies about the Egyptian threat, lies about who started the war, lies to the US president, lies to the UN Security Council, lies to the press, lies to the public. Thus, as the American naval historian Dr Richard K Smith noted,"any instrument which sought to penetrate this smoke screen so carefully thrown around the normal 'fog of war' would have to be frustrated".

Into this sea of deception and slaughter sailed the USS Liberty, an enormous spy factory loaded with the latest eavesdropping gear.

About noon, as the Liberty was again in sight of El Arish, and while the massacres were taking place, an army commander there reported that a ship was shelling them from the sea. But that was impossible. The only ship in the vicinity was the Liberty, and she was eavesdropping, not shooting. As any observer would have recognised, the ship was a tired old Second World War vessel crawling with antennae, and unthreatening to anyone - unless it was their secrets, not their lives, they wanted to protect.

By then the Israeli navy and air force had conducted more than six hours of close surveillance of the Liberty off the Sinai and must have positively identified it as an American electronic spy ship. They knew she was the only military ship in the area. Nevertheless, the order was given to kill her and at 12:05pm, three motor torpedo boats from the port of Ashdod, about 50 miles away, departed. Israeli air force fighters, loaded with 50mm cannon ammunition, rockets and napalm, followed.

Without warning, the Israeli jets - swept-wing Dassault Mirage IIICs - struck. On board Liberty, Lieutenant Painter observed that the aircraft had"absolutely no markings", their identity unclear. He then attempted to reach the men manning the gun mounts, but it was too late."I was trying to contact these two kids," he recalled,"and I saw them both; well, I didn't exactly see them as such. They were blown apart, but I saw the whole area go up in smoke and scattered metal. At about the same time, the aircraft strafed the bridge area. The quarter-master, Petty Officer Third Class Pollard, was standing right next to me, and he was hit."

The Mirages raked the ship from bow to stern with armour-piercing lead. A bomb exploded near the whaleboat aft of the bridge, and those in the pilothouse and the bridge were thrown from their feet. Commander William L McGonagle grabbed for the engine order annunciator and rang up all ahead flank.

In the communications spaces, radiomen James Halman and Joseph Ward had patched together enough equipment and broken antennae to get a distress call off to the Sixth Fleet, despite intense jamming by the Israelis."Any station, this is Rockstar," Halman shouted, using the Liberty's voice call sign."We are under attack by unidentified jet aircraft and require immediate assistance."

"Great, wonderful, she's burning, she's burning," said an Israeli pilot.

At 2:09 pm, the aircraft carrier USS Saratoga, operating near Crete, acknowledged Liberty's cry for help."I am standing by for further traffic," it signalled.

After taking out the gun mounts, the Israeli fighter pilots turned their attention to the antennae so the ship could not call for help or pick up any more revealing interceptions. Then the planes attacked the bridge, killing instantly the ship's executive officer. With the Liberty now deaf, blind, and silenced, unable to call for help or move, the Israeli pilots proceeded to kill her. Designed to punch holes in the toughest tanks, their shells tore through the Liberty's steel plating like hot nails through butter, exploding into jagged bits of shrapnel and butchering men deep in their living quarters.

As the slaughter continued, neither the Israelis nor the Liberty crew had any idea that witnesses were present high above. Until now, that is. According to information, interviews and documents obtained, for nearly 35 years the NSA has hidden the fact that one of its planes - a Navy EC-121 ferret - was overhead at the time of the incident, eavesdropping on what was going on below. The interceptions from that plane, which answer some of the key questions about the attack, are among the NSA's deepest secrets.

The ferret had taken off from Athens for its regular patrol of the eastern Mediterranean, and at about the time that the air attack was getting underway, Navy Chief Petty Officer Marvin Nowicki heard one of the other Hebrew linguists on the plane excitedly trying to get his attention on the secure intercom."Hey, chief," he shouted,"I've got really odd activity on UHF. They mentioned an American flag. I don't know what's going on." Nowicki asked the linguist for the frequency and"rolled up to it"."Sure as the devil," said Nowicki,"Israeli aircraft were completing an attack on some object. I alerted the evaluator, giving him sparse details, adding that we had no idea what was taking place."

Deep down in Liberty, Terry McFarland, head encased in earphones, was vaguely aware of flickers of light coming through the bulkhead. He had no idea that they were armour-piercing tracer bullets slicing through the ship's skin. Larry Weaver had run to his general quarters station but it was located on an old helicopter pad that left him exposed and vulnerable. He grabbed a dazed shipmate and pushed him into a safe corner."I said, 'Fred, stay here, you've just got to because he's coming up the center'," Weaver recalled."I got in the fetal position," he said,"and before I closed my eyes I looked up and I saw the American flag and that was the last thing I saw before I was hit. I closed my eyes, just waiting for hell's horror to hit me. And I was hit by rocket and cannon fire that blew two and a half feet of my colon out and I received over 100 shrapnel wounds. It blew me up in the air about four and a half, five feet. And just blood everywhere."

Stan White raced through the sick bay for the enclosed NSA spaces."Torn and mutilated bodies were everywhere," he said."Horrible sight!"

As soon as the Mirages pulled away, they were replaced by Super Mystere fighters which raked the ship. A later analysis would show 821 separate hits on the hull and superstructure. Now, in addition to rocket, cannon, and machine-gun fire, the Mysteres attacked with 1,000lb bombs and napalm. Deafening explosions tore through the ship and the bridge disappeared in an orange-and-black ball. Lying wounded by shrapnel, his blood draining into his shoe, was Commander McGonagle. Seconds later the fighters were back. Flesh fused with iron as more strafing was followed by more rockets, followed by napalm.

As the last fighter departed, having emptied out its onboard armoury, turning the Liberty's hull into a flaming mass of grey Swiss cheese, sailors lifted mutilated shipmates on to makeshift stretchers of pipe frame and chicken wire. Damage control crews pushed through passageways of suffocating smoke and blistering heat, and the chief petty officer's lounge was converted into a macabre sea of blood-soaked mattresses and shattered bodies.

After landing back at Athens airport, Nowicki and the intercept crew were brought directly to the processing centre."By the time we arrived at the USA-512J compound," he said," collateral reports were coming in to the station about the attack on the USS Liberty. The NSA civilians took our tapes and began transcribing. It was pretty clear that Israeli aircraft and motor torpedo boats attacked a ship in the east Med. Although the attackers never gave a name or a hull number, the ship was identified as flying an American flag. We logically concluded that the ship was the USS Liberty."

At 2.50 pm (Liberty time), 50 minutes after the first shells tore into the ship and as the attack was still going on, the aircraft carrier USS America, cruising near Crete, was ordered to launch four armed A-4 Skyhawks. At the same time, the carrier USS Saratoga was also told to send four armed A-1 attack planes to defend the ship."Sending aircraft to cover you," the Sixth Fleet told the Liberty at 3:05pm (9:05am in Washington)."Surface units on the way."

At that moment in Washington, President Johnson was at his desk, on the phone, alternately shouting at congressional leaders and coaxing them to support his position on several pieces of pending legislation. But four minutes later he was interrupted by Walt Rostow, national security adviser, on the other line."The Liberty has been torpedoed in the Mediterranean," Rostow told Johnson excitedly.

The NSA's worst fears had come true."After considerations of personnel safety," said deputy director Tordella,"one of my immediate concerns, considering the depth of the water and the distance of the ship off shore, had to do with the classified materials on board." Tordella got on the phone to the Joint Reconnaissance Center (JCS) and spoke to the deputy director, a Navy captain named Vineyard."I expressed my concern that the written material be burned if at all possible, and that the electronic equipment be salvaged if that were possible," he said.

But Tordella was not prepared for what he heard. According to NSA documents - classified top secret - he was told that some senior officials in Washington wanted above all to protect Israel from embarrassment."Captain Vineyard had mentioned during this conversation," wrote Tordella,"that consideration was then being given by some unnamed Washington authorities to sink[ing] the Liberty in order that newspaper men would be unable to photograph her and thus inflame public opinion against the Israelis. I made an impolite comment about the idea." Almost immediately, Tordella wrote a memorandum for the record, describing the conversation, and then locked it away.

A cover story for the Liberty was then quickly devised."She was a communications research ship that was diverted from her research assignment," it said,"to provide improved communication-relay links with the several US embassies around the entire Mediterranean during the current troubles."

On the Liberty, black smoke was still escaping through more than 800 holes in the hull, and the effort to hush up the incident had already begun. Within hours of the attack, which left 34 men dead and two-thirds of the rest of the crew wounded, Israel asked President Johnson to quietly bury the incident."Embassy Tel Aviv," said a highly secret, very limited distribution message to the state department,"urged de-emphasis on publicity since proximity of vessel to scene of conflict was fuel for Arab suspicions that the US was aiding Israel." Shortly thereafter, a total news ban was ordered by the Pentagon. No one in the field was allowed to say anything about the attack. All information was to come only from a few senior Washington officials.

Later that morning, Johnson took the unusual step of ordering the JCS to recall its fighters while the Liberty still lay smouldering, sinking, fearful of another attack and with its decks covered with the dead, dying and wounded. On board the flagship of the Sixth Fleet, Rear Admiral Lawrence R Geis, who commanded the carrier force in the Mediterranean, was angry and puzzled at the recall and protested to the secretary of defense, Robert S. McNamara.

Geis was shocked by what he heard next."President Lyndon Johnson came on with a comment that he didn't care if the ship sunk, he would not embarrass his allies." Geis told Lieutenant Commander David Lewis, head of the NSA group on the Liberty, about the comment but asked him to keep it secret until after Geis died. It was a promise that Lewis kept.

In the days following the attack, the Israeli government gave the US government a classified report that attempted to justify the claim that the attack was a mistake. On the basis of that same report, an Israeli court of inquiry completely exonerated the government and all those involved. No one was ever court-martialled, reduced in rank or even reprimanded. On the contrary, Israel chose instead to honor motor torpedo boat 203, which fired the deadly torpedo at the Liberty. The ship's wheel and bell were placed on prominent display at the naval museum, among the maritime artifacts of which the Israeli navy was most proud.

Despite the overwhelming evidence that Israel had attacked the ship and killed the American servicemen deliberately, the Johnson administration and Congress covered up the entire incident. Johnson was planning to run for president the following year and needed the support of pro-Israel voters.

A mistake or mass murder? It was a question Congress never bothered to address in public hearings at the time. Among those who have long called for an in-depth congressional investigation is Admiral Thomas Moorer, who went on to become chairman of the joint chiefs of staff."Congress to this day," he said,"has failed to hold formal hearings for the record on the Liberty affair. This is unprecedented and a national disgrace." Perhaps it is not too late.

http://hnn.us/articles/191.html

There are a lot of questions left by that account, and it doesn't answer what level of Israel approved the attack.

Israel was pretty isolated diplomatically at the time, fighting several countries who were looking to attack them.
 

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Really? A sailor on the Liberty was able to know the intentions of the Israeli's?

Did he know the intentions of his own captain, whom sailed the Liberty into a war zone in violation of orders not to?

He knew that they (the planes) knew they were attacking an American ship.

What is this claim that the captain of the Liberty defied orders? Got prrof of that claim?

Why would he do that? If he did, why did that give the Israelis reason to attack the ship without warning and kill Americans? They were in International waters, so??
 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again; Israel will gladly hide behind a wounded America for cover fire. They have no regard for our lives and this incident proves it.

We are not important to them. The funds, tech and support supplied to them were vital back when modern Israel was being created. Today; with nukes, modern army, their own economy and the thirst for whatever it is they are looking for, the US is of no use to them..

Someone gets it !

The only human beings on Earth known to celebrate 9-11 on 9-11 were 5 Israeli men who were captured in Bergen Park, New Jersey.

As was reported in the following papers -
* Haaretz, September 16
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/09/WTC.html
* ABC News
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1
* Bergen Park Record
http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/01/12/WTC_Mysteries3.html

They were raucously celebrating & high-fiving as they watched the events unfold across the Hudson River in New York state. They were taken into custody by the US government.

It was written up in the Bergen Park newspaper, among other news sources, then subsequently expunged - not unlike how the USS Liberty incident has been expunged from US history textbooks.

Israel doesn't want American schoolchildren finding out the truth about Israel's past & present.


That's one example of the Israeli penchant for Ritual Human Sacrifice.

Another is thoroughly documented in the book by Israeli History Professor, Ariel Toaff, in his book, Blood Passover

http://bloodpassover.com/index1.htm

The capture and ritual sacrifice of Gentile children was an unfortunate custom among Jewish rabbi's in the Middle Ages, as documented by Professor Toaff.

One such incident resulted in the 2 year old child being given Sainthood by the Catholic church. The child's name was Simon, now Saint Simon of Trent -

http://www.stsimonoftrent.com/


One has to wonder if this is what Jesus was talking about when He used the term "Synagogue of Satan".

Was Jesus - a Jew who criticized criminal & murderous behavior practiced by other Jews - anti-Semitic ?
 
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So, what the OP is trying to imply is that Israel is worse than the Muslim nations where women don't even have rights? Maybe if the war-mongering Arab nations hadn't presented a threat to Israel this accident wouldn't have happened in the first place.

Once again, wwSwimming demonstrates his Muslim Inferiority Complex.
 

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I have no reason to disbelieve the results of the numerous US government investigations that have been done regarding this over the years, which have spanned multiple administrations and multiple departments. The earliest of these was way back before the AIPAC days, long before anyone could claim powerful lobby interests. There was simply no reason for the US to cover up an attack on its own ship.
LBJ was President then and he was pretty unethical. He wouldn't have even been President if it hadn't been for him stealing his Senate seat.

He covered it up to keep Zionists, Christian, Jewish, or otherwise in the Democrat Party.

How many other things has the U.S. lied about? The answer is too many to count.

I think it was shitty for the U.S. military to be off U.S. soil, so I don't have a whole hell of a lot of sympathy for the US AntiLiberty--I'm just pointing out the truth.
 

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Ridiculous. It was friendly fire. That happens in war or even in peace like when Saddam, our ally, hit USS Stark and killed a bunch of sailors. We didn't do anything because it was a mistake.

But old habits die hard with hatred for jews I see.
 

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The attack was exhaustively investigated by both the United States and Israel. The conclusion on both sides was that the attack was the result of mistaken identity.

The official US report:

http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/_files/uss_liberty/attack_sigint.pdf

Mistakes happen. U.S. soldiers are often killed by "friendly fire." Your conclusion has the stench of a badly-rotting ulterior motive.

Just because it's official doesn't make it true. What's the "official" report for how the Vietnam war started again?
 

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Sad event, but lets have the past remain the past. It was 44 years ago, time to let it go.
 

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I believe I mentioned this last year, our government handled the response to Israel. I accept the extent of that response, for actions done a full generation before I was born.

lol. kind of like how the Germans of today had nothing to do with what happened during WWII, but they will be paying reparations for future generations
 

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I knew a guy who waqs on the ship and he said the Israelis knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

hahahhaaaaa I also knew a guy who was on that ship who said that it was a complete accident...my guy verses your guy....rofl