4200x2 939 @ 2915 and going Zalaman 9500led

[SlyNine]

So far I have this at 2915 w/ Vcore at 1.4 Temps under full load never go over 60C. But I have a couple of questions.

My buss is at x11 and multiplier is at 265. HT bus is set 4, So im wounding should I lower the HT bus to 3x and keep going or should I leave it at 4x. Any thoughts or experience. My Motherboard is a A8N32 Deluxe.

Also I was wondering what should I use to stress test this, Right now Im running sisoft sandra's Multi-Media with the burn in. Does that stress the CPU as much as anything, what would you guys recommend.

at the end of this I plan on finding a stable 24/7 overclock. So I want a Stress test that I can run in the background while 3dmark 2005 is running so I can get the system temps as high as possible.

Thanks for any help.



*edited for spelling

 

[manowar821]

Dammit man, I have my 4200+ AM2 at 2.78ghz, and I can't push it higher. At least, last time I tried pushing it past that, I had Vista installed. Now I'm back on XP x64...

May I ask, how exactly did you tweak it so well? Do you run with two sticks of ram or four, etc..? Did I just get unlucky with my EVGA 590 sli Mobo? EDIT: With 4 sticks of ram, and a Tuniq tower.

I'm guessing that you're at about the max for that CPU if you want it nice and stable. I think that most people can only get it to 2.9. At 3.0 or higher, it tends to choke up. I say, get it stable, and then push for 3.0...

I love my little $80 CPU, though, don't you?

 

[SlyNine]

My memory is Mushkin 2x1GB. I even have it set at 1T, otho not while I was trying to find the max overclock. So its just 2 dimms.

It topped out at around 2.97, Funny thing is it is very stable here. Iv been running all sorts of benchmarks, Simultaneously and separate, So far it has not got over 63 C, And that's with 2 hot SLI Videocards running and it pushing Sisoft in the background to keep CPU high. But yet, I cannot even log in to windows at a higher speed ( 275x11). Go figure.

Honestly , I just got very lucky. This CPU is around 1.5-2 years old * id have to check to be certain. So mine was, like 160$ (just guessing) when i first bought it .

So my tweaks are simply setting the Memory divider at 14 ( 166 mhz peak, is how this A8N32 deluxe reads it, IM kinda confused about that) Setting the HT at 4x , 270x11.

If there are any settings that you are curious about. Just ask. What Im really wondering, Why did it cap out at 2.97ghz, Iv tried the overvolt but that sent my temps to the 67 and that's idle in the bios.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: SlyNine
My memory is Mushkin 2x1GB. I even have it set at 1T, otho not while I was trying to find the max overclock. So its just 2 dimms.

It topped out at around 2.97, Funny thing is it is very stable here. Iv been running all sorts of benchmarks, Simultaneously and separate, So far it has not got over 63 C, And that's with 2 hot SLI Videocards running and it pushing Sisoft in the background to keep CPU high. But yet, I cannot even log in to windows at a higher speed ( 275x11). Go figure.

Honestly , I just got very lucky. This CPU is around 1.5-2 years old * id have to check to be certain. So mine was, like 160$ (just guessing) when i first bought it .

So my tweaks are simply setting the Memory divider at 14 ( 166 mhz peak, is how this A8N32 deluxe reads it, IM kinda confused about that) Setting the HT at 4x , 270x11.

If there are any settings that you are curious about. Just ask. What Im really wondering, Why did it cap out at 2.97ghz, Iv tried the overvolt but that sent my temps to the 67 and that's idle in the bios.

Hmm.. That's just probably the max voltage for your CPU, then. I have mine at 1.50v and it pretty much can't go higher without suddenly JUMPING 20 C. There is kind of a sudden "plateau" for voltage vs temperature with CPUs and you've most likely reached it from what I've read on other overclocking forums... You did awesome for the 4200+ on air, I don't think many others have gotten it much higher without water cooling.

I've never been super good at memory dividers, and my EVGA board doesn't help the issue. It has some kind of proprietary naming scheme for it all, they just name the incremental steps by DDR2 Types IE: "533, 667, 800"... I have no idea what they actually set the RAM multi at. So for example, if I set my system for 250x11, my ram speed moves up too, to about 1005mhz or whatever. I then need to set this ram "setting" to 533, or 667 (instead of 800), and it drops the ram speed down to some arbitrary speed/multi. I just need to figure out which setting gets it closest to 800mhz... Right now my CPU is at 2.78Ghz and my RAM is at 776Mhz. Oh god, I'm just confusing myself, now!

FYI, my voltage can go to about 1.55 or so before the temperature suddenly jumps, and this is normal for our chip.

 

[SlyNine]

To bad, I was getting really excited about the thought of hitting 3.2ghz lol. I just installed this HSF so hopefully after the thermal breaks in it will run even cooler.

Get this with the stock HSF, it was getting up too 74C stock. When I first got it, I was going to OC it, Seen it was getting above 60C and figured it wasn't worth it. Just recently I decided I would see what the Max temp was getting to.. 74!! That was it, I bought a HSF, Then Temps were like 48C load. Then Decided it was time to OC

Of course it was partially motivated by the fact I was looking at upgrading to a C2Q to run my 8800GTs, But after hitting 2.97 stable I think I'll just wait until Bulldozer comes out.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: SlyNine
It topped out at around 2.97, Funny thing is it is very stable here. Iv been running all sorts of benchmarks, Simultaneously and separate, So far it has not got over 63 C, And that's with 2 hot SLI Videocards running and it pushing Sisoft in the background to keep CPU high. But yet, I cannot even log in to windows at a higher speed ( 275x11). Go figure.

So my tweaks are simply setting the Memory divider at 14 ( 166 mhz peak, is how this A8N32 deluxe reads it, IM kinda confused about that) Setting the HT at 4x , 270x11.

Those two settings are your problem. They should be HT multiplier = 3, and you should also be using a lower memory divider.

 

[manowar821]

Originally posted by: SlyNine
To bad, I was getting really excited about the thought of hitting 3.2ghz lol. I just installed this HSF so hopefully after the thermal breaks in it will run even cooler.

Get this with the stock HSF, it was getting up too 74C stock. When I first got it, I was going to OC it, Seen it was getting above 60C and figured it wasn't worth it. Just recently I decided I would see what the Max temp was getting to.. 74!! That was it, I bought a HSF, Then Temps were like 48C load. Then Decided it was time to OC

Of course it was partially motivated by the fact I was looking at upgrading to a C2Q to run my 8800GTs, But after hitting 2.97 stable I think I'll just wait until Bulldozer comes out.

74 C?? Oh god, that's really high.

I think mine peaked at 60 C with the stock cooler (at 2.35ghz), and with the Tuniq, I get about 52 C at load (at 2.75ghz). Pretty nice!

Good luck if you decide to try and push it higher, though.

 

[aigomorla]

Man i miss my Opty.

I think i had the fastest 24/7 stable S939 dual core opty on this forum. 3.08ghz 24/7 :T

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...3/aigomorla/MyOpty.jpg


But listen to myocardia. Your HT should be 3x. You want to keep your FSB x HTT @ or near 1k.

So if your fsb is 200, your HTT can be 5x which is standard. fsb 250 your HT neesd to be 4x. FSB any higher and you want to drop your HTT to 3x.

 

[Comdrpopnfresh]

you should lap that puppy.... or remove the ihs- something ballz-out.
Does that board have a nb and sb? Trying to figure out how similar it is to my a8n32-sli deluxe....

 

[SlyNine]

You're going to have elaborate for me, Last time I'v really got in too OCing It was with my A7N8X Deluxe ( I think thats what it was) /2500 Barton.

and to you're question, This is an A8N32-SLI deluxe

 

[nyker96]

May I suggest the following? Get a nice board like IP35, with a cheapo dual core like E2xxx, so you can use it now. Get 2GB cheap DDR2s. and then wait til new line of CPUs next year and upgrade since the board will support the future.

 

[SlyNine]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
Man i miss my Opty.

I think i had the fastest 24/7 stable S939 dual core opty on this forum. 3.08ghz 24/7 :T

http://i125.photobucket.com/al...3/aigomorla/MyOpty.jpg


But listen to myocardia. Your HT should be 3x. You want to keep your FSB x HTT @ or near 1k.

So if your fsb is 200, your HTT can be 5x which is standard. fsb 250 your HT neesd to be 4x. FSB any higher and you want to drop your HTT to 3x.

Would the HT at 3x effect the performance? Also, What were all those programs you were running I don't recognize Orthos, or Real-Time HDR IBL. I cannot use Ntune because my Mobo doesn't support it. I do use Asus probe and CPU-Z. I can post pictures if you'd like.

Also Im trying to figur out how much the OverVolting the CPU setting on this A8N32-SLI Deluxe over volts the CPU. My Biggest problem was one turn up from the 1.4 volts did not seem too effect the voltages. Over volting it with it set at 1.4 sent the heat threw the roof.

 

[SlyNine]

Considered doing somthing like that. But I really want to wait for AMD's Bulldozer core, Not saying Id buy it but I just want to wait and see. At 2.97 this gets me by, and is stable.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: SlyNine
Would the HT at 3x effect the performance?

Yes, it would make it more stable, and allow you to overclock higher, assuming you are able to keep the heat in check. And speaking of heat, you're most likely having to use so much vcore, because of how high you're running your HT bus.

 

[SlyNine]

Lowered it too 3x, uped the Vcore to 1.41. But yet CPU-z didnt show any incress in Vcore, neither did Asus probe. The heat was about the same as when it was set to 1.40 as well. However I got in to windows this time and was able too run 5 benchmarks on Sisoft Multi Media CPU Benchmark. Didnt hard lock just rebooted.

Any one have any Idea how the asus A8N32X- SLI Deluxe's OverVolt thing works, When I used that my Core went up to 68C And that was with the Vcore setting at 1.4

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: SlyNine
Lowered it too 3x, uped the Vcore to 1.41. But yet CPU-z didnt show any incress in Vcore, neither did Asus probe. The heat was about the same as when it was set to 1.40 as well. However I got in to windows this time and was able too run 5 benchmarks on Sisoft Multi Media CPU Benchmark. Didnt hard lock just rebooted.

Any one have any Idea how the asus A8N32X- SLI Deluxe's OverVolt thing works, When I used that my Core went up to 68C And that was with the Vcore setting at 1.4

cant help you out with the board.

Everyone knows the best S939 board was DFI Expert. Thats the board i was running.

Also about the 1000 Hyper transport, There was test shown on DFI street where someone took it to 400mhz hyper transport. Thats 200fsb x 2x HT and it showed very little performance decrease from 1000mhz, 200 x 5. The difference was so small, that the stability of the lower multi is more worth it in the long run.


Also i dont like asus's AI Tuner. I always overclock my system the old fashion way. Bios straight though. Maybe i'll use a software clockgen to see how high the system will go b4 doing the bios, But in the end, im tinkering with bios and setting my overclock in stone.


Some programs info:

RealTime HDR IBL = GPU loading program. It loads the hell out of your GPU and makes those suckers hot. I used it in testing my full load on the system for my water setup. Both GPU and CPU.

Orthos: Its simular to prime95. It was a program most overclocking people used because it was easy to load up both cores on it vs. Prime95. Now prime95 has a version 25.3+ which does multi thread applications. But when i was playing with my opty, prime95 only did single threads, and you had to set affinity manually.

CPU-Z blah... if you dont know CPU-Z... i have no comment. But CPU-Z will tell you the Vcore actual. As you can see my opty is pulling only 1.31V @ 3.08 hence why it was truely a monster. I was bottlenecked on the ram side.

 

[SlyNine]

thats pretty nice, Yea I dont use the AI tuner, But I think the overvolt incresses it .2 vots, So to go from 1.4 to 1.41 Id have to take it too 1.21 and use the over volt feature.

I was wondering if you tried lowering your multiplyer and raiseing the divider and raising the FSB ? So far this thing is rock stable at 2.97. Its been on since last night except for the last OC I did. and its been running benchmarks. The temps went down to 57C as well under full load. * probably to the fact that this room isnt 85 degress anymore.

 

[Rhoxed]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
Man i miss my Opty.

I think i had the fastest 24/7 stable S939 dual core opty on this forum. 3.08ghz 24/7 :T

Running a Toledo 3800+ @ 3.11ghz 24/7

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Rhoxed

Originally posted by: aigomorla
Man i miss my Opty.

I think i had the fastest 24/7 stable S939 dual core opty on this forum. 3.08ghz 24/7 :T

Running a Toledo 3800+ @ 3.11ghz 24/7

3.2 @ 1.45 Vcore :]
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p73/aigomorla/3.jpg

couldnt get the memory side stable... she primed really nice on small ffts, but would fail on blend or large.... hence the memory side was the problem... as i said, the first time in my life the ram was really the limiting factor. And those ram sticks i used back then were OCZ platinum rev.2


i still think i had the fastest opty. The keyword is had. It was sold to a member in XS forum in europe for 300 dollars 1 yr ago.

man... i really miss my opty.....

 

[SlyNine]

I think I will bring it too 2.9ghz, I can do that at 1.4 volts and keep the temps below 60C on the cores, As well as have my Ram run stable at near 200mhz with a 1 T command rate and 2-3-2-5 timing. I have my HT bus set too 3x as it had no effect on any benchmark I ran, none what so ever.

So thanks for the advice aigomorla, myocardia, and manowar821.