... and what are the fund choices? stock index funds are the safest, bonds and money market are for if you are 50 or older.Originally posted by: PandaBear
how much is your company matching?
Originally posted by: edro
Put 6% into T. Rowe Price Retirement 2040. (if you are going to retire around the year 2040)
In many cases, you are throwing a ton of money away. Why? Since company sponsored 401Ks usually have massive fees. Thus your extra 7% that you put in is subject to these massive fees. You'd be much better off putting in 3%, getting your companies 3% match, and then investing that remaining 7% in low fee accounts on your own.Originally posted by: Cal166
I put in the max of 10% allowed from my company, they are matching it 100% upto the first 3%.
Total contribution 13% towards my 401K.
How much you contribute is up to you, but you should put in at least the 6% to get the matching.Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: edro
Put 6% into T. Rowe Price Retirement 2040. (if you are going to retire around the year 2040)
how much should i contribute? just the 6% so i get the full benefirt from my employer matching? should i put all of it into that 1 fund?
Originally posted by: dullard
In many cases, you are throwing a ton of money away. Why? Since company sponsored 401Ks usually have massive fees. Thus your extra 7% that you put in is subject to these massive fees. You'd be much better off putting in 3%, getting your companies 3% match, and then investing that remaining 7% in low fee accounts on your own.Originally posted by: Cal166
I put in the max of 10% allowed from my company, they are matching it 100% upto the first 3%.
Total contribution 13% towards my 401K.
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
... and what are the fund choices? stock index funds are the safest, bonds and money market are for if you are 50 or older.Originally posted by: PandaBear
how much is your company matching?
You are talking ~5% fee if you do it through your company vs ~1% fee if you do it yourself in many cases. When your company set up the 401k, it got free advice. And now you pay for that advice with higher fees.Originally posted by: Midlander
I don't know about most companies, but my company doesn't charge any fees. The funds themselves do, but they charge those fees no matter how you get the investment in their funds. Also, you want to max out your contributions if you can afford it to take full advantage of tax deferment.
Originally posted by: dullard
You are talking ~5% fee if you do it through your company vs ~1% fee if you do it yourself in many cases. When your company set up the 401k, it got free advice. And now you pay for that advice with higher fees.Originally posted by: Midlander
I don't know about most companies, but my company doesn't charge any fees. The funds themselves do, but they charge those fees no matter how you get the investment in their funds. Also, you want to max out your contributions if you can afford it to take full advantage of tax deferment.
Tax deferment CAN be beneficial (it may hurt in many conceivable cases). You can easily max it out yourself without going through your company's plan.
I did keep specifying "in many cases". There are only a handful of Fortune 25 companies and millions of companies without the financial clout to bargain for cheap investments.Originally posted by: Midlander
Maybe this is the difference between large and small companies. My company (very large--Fortune 25) set up everything through Fidelity. The annual fees by the funds are exactly the same ones everyone else pays.
Originally posted by: dullard
I did keep specifying "in many cases". There are only a handful of Fortune 25 companies and millions of companies without the financial clout to bargain for cheap investments.Originally posted by: Midlander
Maybe this is the difference between large and small companies. My company (very large--Fortune 25) set up everything through Fidelity. The annual fees by the funds are exactly the same ones everyone else pays.
And it isn't the annual fee I'm talking about, it is the up-front or selling fee (which does diminish as the company gets larger, so a Fortune 25 company would be at the cheapest possible level).
I'm just trying to give general advice on a forum (advice that applies to most but not all). Details and specifics of course will change from person to person.
Most companies don't list the fees in a way that I can link to easilly. So here is one that I did find in a simple search:Originally posted by: Azurik
I've never been with a company, or know any friends who have been with a company, that charges a fee outside of the normal mutual fund fees... and even then we're talking like MICROSCOPIC fees (.25%-.95%). Then again, most of us work at Fortune 500 companies.