4000 arrests at risk over cops that were never gun certified

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CountZero

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Seems pretty straight forward, not sure where the confusion is.

These people were not officially certified therefore they are no longer sworn officers. Therefore anything they did that required a sown officer is now invalid. As FL apparently doesn't recognize citizen arrests that would make the arrests likely invalid. But beyond that every time one of these guys got up and swore in a court room he was a sworn officer you have possible grounds for a mistrial.

It is a sticky situation. If they don't nullify these then it will come up in appeal and it will set a precedence. I would guess at least one case could go to the state supreme court.

It is dumb, it is a technicality but that's what wins and loses cases.

As to GA's assertion lawyers suck. In this case the defense lawyers for every one of these people basically have a sworn duty to try every avenue possible to give their clients the best outcome anything less would be an ethics violation. And that is good because the last thing you want is lawyers making snap judgments and not pursuing every avenue.
 

edro

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If the police violate the 4th Amendment in conducting an illegal search or seizure (e.g. break into your house without a warrant and find you having sex with an alpaca in the bedroom) - it does not have any effect on whether you are guilty or not, but the fact that it was an illegal search means you're not going to jail... yet.
True. And that is also retarded.
 

Scotteq

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I agree with everyone that there's no reason this issue should affect prior arrests, but I did want to take issue with that statement.

If the police violate the 4th Amendment in conducting an illegal search or seizure (e.g. break into your house without a warrant and find you having sex with an alpaca in the bedroom) - it does not have any effect on whether you are guilty or not, but the fact that it was an illegal search means you're not going to jail... yet.


I believe the word you were looking for is "Goat" :eek:

http://www.wvgazette.com/News/201105020871

Police say an Alum Creek man high on bath salts killed his neighbor's pygmy goat and that neighbors found him in his bedroom, dressed in a bra and panties, next to the dead animal, said Lt. Bryan Stover of the Kanawha County Sheriff's Department.

And yeah - It really happened.... :\
 

CountZero

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True. And that is also retarded.

So breaking the law in order to catch someone breaking the law is acceptable? Just want some clarification because I see no retardation with expecting law enforcement to also be expected to follow the law.