40% of Youth to Vote Romney

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chucky2

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Some call it being snowballed. To each their own....it doesn't really matter. My point is the youth aren't voting Rep at 40% unless Obama really does something stupid, and in that case it won't matter, as the rest of the voting demographic will cede votes to Romney as well.

This is not just a 2012 election problem for Reps, it's an all future elections problem for them.
 

Charles Kozierok

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Zogby really is an execrable pollster. But I actually don't find it that hard to believe that Romney is at around 40%, depending on exact definitions.
 

BoberFett

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Reagan knocked unemployment from 10.8% to 5.3%. Don't let facts get in the way of your theory.

Yeah, in the same way every other modern politician tries to improve the economy: false prosperity via deficit spending.

We keep creating bubble after bubble and making things worse. Carter's economy may have sucked, but the explosion from the government bubble could kill us.
 

Nemesis 1

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If anyone thinks Romney will get 40% of the young vote, they are on drugs. Young people far and away are staunch liberals. Thats everywhere too.


LOL Only in the inner cities . LOL . You know the type the ones that live on food stamps and welfare. They know the free ride is about over. But they still cling to the hope that welfare check will be there for them and than their children. Ya demons care only about self but they wear socialism has a coat of arms so that none can see them for what they truely are. I do agree 40% is high and 20 % would be really high this round for the failure that obummer is. Gary Johnson and Ron Paul will get many many of the young vote . I guess these kids understand the meaning of the bill Obummer Signed on new years eve. They want Liberty not poverty . Socialism promises only poverty for the majority . These Kids all understand this now . Obummer promised a fundamental change for america . But never said what that change would be . Did he lie . NO . Obummer has fundamentally changed america . Is America youth happy with that promised change no . They see clearly Obummer is putting the monkey on their backs . This is a truth that can't be hidden or denied
 

Nemesis 1

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Some call it being snowballed. To each their own....it doesn't really matter. My point is the youth aren't voting Rep at 40% unless Obama really does something stupid, and in that case it won't matter, as the rest of the voting demographic will cede votes to Romney as well.

This is not just a 2012 election problem for Reps, it's an all future elections problem for them.

This is the one and only time you been correct that I know of. This statement is true.

This is not just a 2012 election problem for Reps, it's an all future elections problem for them///////////. The republican parties name will be change befor 2016 . Likely the liberty party or American party will be chartered when the NOW RNC folds up its tents and gets out of town . As the republican party was hijacked by Democrat NEO Cons.
 

chucky2

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This is the one and only time you been correct that I know of. This statement is true.

Not really sure how to take that, the asteroid that's coming has me worried. :confused:

This is not just a 2012 election problem for Reps, it's an all future elections problem for them///////////. The republican parties name will be change befor 2016 . Likely the liberty party or American party will be chartered when the NOW RNC folds up its tents and gets out of town . As the republican party was hijacked by Democrat NEO Cons.

This is the one and only time you been correct that I know of (except for the Democrat NEO Cons bit, know clue what you mean by that).
 

werepossum

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This is the one and only time you been correct that I know of. This statement is true.

This is not just a 2012 election problem for Reps, it's an all future elections problem for them///////////. The republican parties name will be change befor 2016 . Likely the liberty party or American party will be chartered when the NOW RNC folds up its tents and gets out of town . As the republican party was hijacked by Democrat NEO Cons.
Not necessarily. Much of the "youth vote" eventually grows up.
 

werepossum

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I sure you meant this for chucky aS MY STATEMENT WOULD NOT HAVE BROUGHT THIS REPLY
No, you said the Republican Party would have to change its name. I'm just pointing out that while the Democrat position of free lunches is very tempting for the very young, especially those who have racked up loads of debt for marginally marketable degrees, at some point many if not most of the youth grow up and realize there is no free lunch and that government redistribution is much more likely to make everyone poor than to make everyone wealthy.
 

spidey07

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I guess we are in a pickle since Republicans have already proven they can't run a healthy economy without taking it into the shitter.

After the historic election of 2010 to stop Obama were making progress.

Stopping Obama is a winning proposition for our nation.

Time to finish the job. See you in November.
 

BoberFett

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After the historic election of 2010 to stop Obama were making progress.

Stopping Obama is a winning proposition for our nation.

Time to finish the job. See you in November.

And you think Romney has anything more to offer than Obama? You're delusional.
 

cybrsage

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Who was it that said .....

“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
“I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year.”
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration.”
“I’ll close Guantanamo.”
“I’ll resign if I don’t cut the deficit in half by the end of four years.”
“I’ll unite the people of this great country.”

A little help please ....

I think it is Bush's fault...
 

cybrsage

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and lol...youth not only voting for a republican, but actually turning out to vote? :D

yeah...gl with that one.

It is not so much that they have to turn out in droves and vote for Romney, but that Obama has done nothing to energize them to turn out in droves and vote for him like they did last time.

That will hurt him badly. Enough to lose the election for losing their votes? Doubt it, but it certainly will hurt.
 

Rainsford

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It is not so much that they have to turn out in droves and vote for Romney, but that Obama has done nothing to energize them to turn out in droves and vote for him like they did last time.

That will hurt him badly. Enough to lose the election for losing their votes? Doubt it, but it certainly will hurt.

I think you're right about the basics of the issue (Obama voters staying home rather than jumping on the Romney train). I suspect the election will be much closer than 2008 if Obama does manage to win it.

The problem from the other side though is whether Romney is able to energize enough of HIS base without energizing Obama's base at the same time. It would be interesting if Obama won re-election on the "anybody but Romney" platform ;)
 

Rainsford

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Young people also need jobs; which is more important, ideals or a paycheck.

Which might be a good argument...if Republicans are able to frame the issue that way. So far they don't seem particularly convincing on the jobs front and they can't quite get away from the socially conservative stuff that young people in particular aren't too fond of.
 

Nemesis 1

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No, you said the Republican Party would have to change its name. I'm just pointing out that while the Democrat position of free lunches is very tempting for the very young, especially those who have racked up loads of debt for marginally marketable degrees, at some point many if not most of the youth grow up and realize there is no free lunch and that government redistribution is much more likely to make everyone poor than to make everyone wealthy.

I never said such a thing the RNC is done . The RNC is raving about paulls delegets and how Paul cheated to get them . Look I took part in this process . There was cheating going on big time but not by Pauls people . The RNC was cheating . WHO one MN . Who won Iowa in the primary . RICKY right . Ricky was actually doing pretty good .

So why did he quite . You people claim to be logical . It was about lagistics. If Ricky stays in the contest the true Primary winner would have been revilled in Iowa MN Maine . This would have been a killer for the Romney RNC group . Rickey had to stop . After the delegates were Choosen durring the process not after everyone leaves but durring. The RNC had a problem the delegets majority was won by paul . who voted on these people . The same people that voted in the popular primary shall game . So why did paul get all the delegets in maine Mn and Iowa. Ricky had to drop so that the RNC could say these delegets switched to Paul. If ricky stays in and Paul ends up with the delegets even the most ignorant americans would have seen threw the great American democracy that has been compromised . Hell You know how Paul come up with the deleget Idea, Its all here all the links everthing . It was after I revealed what we were doing in MN with my organization . No one heard of the deleget thing until after MN . I couldn't tell them befor or we lose the only state I care about MN. Snake country or sioux country if ya like ./ I preferr souix country. Thousands upon thousands of Americans telling the same story of the RNC cheating and you lol at these up sranding americans who want nothing ffrom the government other than to protect our liberty . Other than that , Its all paul people want . Romney and the RNC want tax breaks for their kind and more jobs . which makes romney the worse choice by the RNC and the people(cough) vote rigging and removing rightful delegets. Why the justice department didn't get into this goes beyond all reasoning and supports the corupt elections theme in americam politics , The Demons and there un productive and demonic support for healthy people being on welfare is unproductive and an unnessary burden on society. Turn perfectly healthy people into lazy fat couch potates and creating ignorance were there should be enlightment is a sin against God Man and nature. I keep seeing on these forums people saying demons are enlightened and rep conservatives are living in superstition . This is about as ass backwards of thinking as i have ever seen .

Watch reality TV I see alot of Demons on TV reality shows that are really on the edge of retardation I know these are demons as we have another topic going here right now were the demons are sticking up for who tradishionly votes for the demons and their demonic ways , If you think extending a helping hand up for along period of time is good your retards and as broke as those you pretend to help because your cluesless , Extending a helping hand for a short period is great wonderful and good and it has to be that way but long term is evil unproductive and leads to many evils and the fall of that society
 
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Nemesis 1

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No, you said the Republican Party would have to change its name. I'm just pointing out that while the Democrat position of free lunches is very tempting for the very young, especially those who have racked up loads of debt for marginally marketable degrees, at some point many if not most of the youth grow up and realize there is no free lunch and that government redistribution is much more likely to make everyone poor than to make everyone wealthy.[/QUOTE0 No I did not say that , I said the RNC is over with . A true republican conservative wouldfn't be caught in the same room as a democrat neo con dressed out as a rep. The party knows it . MN . The party is broke they asked my organization for money . I wrote them a letter back riping them a new ass . Along with that letter 749 sworn statements from people who took part in the process in MN and how rules were broken . Hell we all ready have MN . and will be pushing for a new name and rules that will keep the new party unbreakable neo cons better not come around rthey will be shown more than the door and receive more than a kick in the ass on the way out . We have no intention of playing by any rules but our own . Who sitts in authority that is worthy . NONE . Ya want me arrested go for it . You have know idea whats going on in my state or the states to our west . We pretty much have ND in our pockets now and SD will follow . Were staying out of Iowa as they have built recently a good organization . They have adopted much of our charter which we like . But ffor us taking ND is the biggest deal . The money is there and money is a tool for good or bad . its time its used for good
 
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JEDIYoda

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Worse, Obama has already proven he cannot fix the economy.
No what Obama has proven is that if the Republican want the White House they will not cooperate at all with anything the Democrats desire to do!!
 

cybrsage

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No what Obama has proven is that if the Republican want the White House they will not cooperate at all with anything the Democrats desire to do!!

Start at the beginning of Obama's tenure. Who refused to cooperate with who first? Each new administration gets to start out as either intensely partisan (as Obama did) and therefor have the other side fight them tooth and nail, or they can start out as bi-partisan (as Clinton did) as get things accomplished. The choice is up to the President when he gets into office.