4 Ghz dual core

NightCrawler

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Product: Velocity Raptor ProMagix DCX 4GHz

Company: Velocity Micro

Pros: Wicked fast clock speeds; impressive performance; quiet operation even at 4GHz; nifty sealed liquid cooling system.

Cons: Difficult to add or upgrade components; BIOS needs a fix.

Summary: It offers more raw performance than just about any other desktop PC but wait for the BIOS fix before getting the 4GHz model.

Price: $5,035 as tested

Product: Dell Dimension XPS Gen 5 Dual-Core PC

Company: Dell

Pros: Slick chassis package, quiet operation, good performance, first (and only current) Dell system to allow overclocking.

Cons: Plasticky case exterior.

Summary: Offering excellent system performance and stability, this is a terrific system for power users and performance enthusiasts in a beefy, polished package.

Price: $3,907 as tested

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They have the gall to put it up agianst a Opteron 875 machine which they don't overclock.
 

d33pblue

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I wonder what sort of support nightmare Dell is going to go through with owners overclocking their systems. My guess is that they tested those systems inside and out at their maximum allowed overclocked speed before releasing them in an attempt to "idiot-proof" the systems.

And yeah, you cant *really* compare the Opteron system against the Overclocked P4 DC system, BUT you can compare it against the unoverclocked system. Even at default clock speeds the Pentium chips did very well.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
FAST PRINT: http://www.extremetech.com/print_article2/0,2533,a=150536,00.asp

Ad Ridden with some pics: http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1788937,00.asp


Product: Velocity Raptor ProMagix DCX 4GHz

Company: Velocity Micro

Pros: Wicked fast clock speeds; impressive performance; quiet operation even at 4GHz; nifty sealed liquid cooling system.

Cons: Difficult to add or upgrade components; BIOS needs a fix.

Summary: It offers more raw performance than just about any other desktop PC but wait for the BIOS fix before getting the 4GHz model.

Price: $5,035 as tested

Product: Dell Dimension XPS Gen 5 Dual-Core PC

Company: Dell

Pros: Slick chassis package, quiet operation, good performance, first (and only current) Dell system to allow overclocking.

Cons: Plasticky case exterior.

Summary: Offering excellent system performance and stability, this is a terrific system for power users and performance enthusiasts in a beefy, polished package.

Price: $3,907 as tested

Rating:

They have the gall to put it up agianst a Opteron 875 machine which they don't overclock.

Because that is the only way they will come close to competing. LOL. Overclock the X2 4800+ to 2800-3000 on high end water cooling and see what it does to the dualcore Intel 4ghrtz
 

Falloutboy

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ok what I think is interesting is that dell is able to change the multi...I wounder if this is just a special unlocked chip from intel or is it some special bios they got like they said in the article
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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dell and Intel sitting in a tree ....
Somehow I don't think AMD is too worried. This sounds like a desparation we have the fastest move by Intel with their dualcores
 

ZobarStyl

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Those systems are completely messed up too as far as an even bench is concerned, totally different specs all over (RAID setups vs single drive, 6800GT vs x850XT). Either way, the 2.2 isn't the fastest X2 coming and it will be on better chipsets with faster ram; even at 4 ghz they just can't compete.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: ZobarStyl
Those systems are completely messed up too as far as an even bench is concerned, totally different specs all over (RAID setups vs single drive, 6800GT vs x850XT). Either way, the 2.2 isn't the fastest X2 coming and it will be on better chipsets with faster ram; even at 4 ghz they just can't compete.


Exactly. Imagine the X2 4800+ ligquid cooled to 2800 to 3000. It would smack the Intel 4ghrtz and then laugh
 

Duvie

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Lets face the real fact that I doubt INtel will ever release dual core 4ghz when they cant even seem to release a single core 4ghz model....So they basically OC the heck out of the iNtel chip and then ofcourse they couldn't OC the dual AMD on the server type boards they are on....4ghz x 2 versus 2.2ghz x 2 ...I mean AMD is good to make that look anything close to reasonable..

Difference is that 800mhz of a Intel OC would be like a 500mhz AMD overclock at best, and I can see AMD making a 2.8ghz model......

Retarded testing and retarded comparison...

Sidenote the real gain for Intel dual cores is going to have to come from ocing the bus and memory speed not multipliers...The should be running 1066fsb-1200fsb....
 

Zebo

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ExtremeIntelfanboys.com:thumbsdown:

*Another thing I don't like is thier psuedo print which only lets you print a page at a time vs. whole article. Plus how you have to blow up each bench individually. Site is an advertising and navigation nightmare.

 

Lonyo

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Lets put X850's in 2 machines, and 6800GT's in others, just to make a fair and valid comparison.

But to be fair, they did use a pre-existing 875 test setup, and maybe they didn't want to overclock the 875 because in their X2 tests they didn't, and they didn't want to run fresh numbers.
They were also using both Pentium D systems as stock, stock just happened to be overclocked/able.


This isn't meant to be Pentium D vs AMD X2, it's 2 different overclocked P4 shipping systems compared to each other.
Nice to see companies shipping systems which can be overclocked. (Dell mainly)
 

housecat

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Originally posted by: Duvie
Lets face the real fact that I doubt INtel will ever release dual core 4ghz when they cant even seem to release a single core 4ghz model...