4 core cpu in 2006

[Intelia]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/05/whitefield_intel_deets/

 

[Duvie]

<<the company's first all-Indian design>>

This doesn't piss you off today???


Other then that glad to see you are moving up the ladder of more reputable news sites...

Sounds cool...Have to wait to see more specs...Like what will the speed of each core be....How much cache and how effective is the sharing of the cache among 4 cores....

 

[GuitarDaddy]

I,m also interested in seeing if multithreaded apps can take advantage of all four cores. It will obviously help with mad multitasking (3 or 4 tasks simultaneously). But which single apps will be able to utilize all four?

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: GuitarDaddy
I,m also interested in seeing if multithreaded apps can take advantage of all four cores. It will obviously help with mad multitasking (3 or 4 tasks simultaneously). But which single apps will be able to utilize all four?

Povray, 3dsmax7 and most CAD rendering apps...

I think xeons or their equivalents are really workstation or server boxes so I bet their could be use for even 2 simultaneous processes to be done that can take advantage of 2 cores each....

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Duvie
<<the company's first all-Indian design>>

This doesn't piss you off today???


Other then that glad to see you are moving up the ladder of more reputable news sites...

Sounds cool...Have to wait to see more specs...Like what will the speed of each core be....How much cache and how effective is the sharing of the cache among 4 cores....

Does it piss you off that Banias came from Israel?

 

[Leper Messiah]

You didn't read the thread where Intelia basically compared AMD to nazi's 'cause they have a german fab.

 

[Yanagi]

Link?

 

[Capt Caveman]

It's sadder that her husband supports her by selling Nazi AMD CPUs. And Intel will bring more jobs to the US w/ their newest cpus. Um, new fabs in China and designed in India.

 

[Intelia]

Don't know much about India except that its a poor country and kinda mystic. I also have never seen India as a threat to the USA. I mean why would I see a country as threat that allows cows to do what ever they want.

 

[Bona Fide]

Originally posted by: Intelia
Don't know much about India except that its a poor country and kinda mystic. I also have never seen India as a threat to the USA. I mean why would I see a country as threat that allows cows to do what ever they want.

Mystic? Never heard anything about that

But yeah it seems like a third-world country, and that's why all those jobs are getting sent there. People are willing to work for like 1/4 of our salaries. They also seem to be natural geniuses in the IT field.

 

[Lord Banshee]

lol

Anyway 4 cores will be great for the Xeon.. People must see opterons and Xeons are not for a home computer and general use. They are "designed for" people that do huge computaltional work. For example Engineering software has always took advantage of SMP(2-8+) like FEA and CFD analysis, Rendering software seems to do best with SMP(2) but some are written correctly to use 4 more CPU, mental ray isn't one of them lol.

either way all these cores should influence 4+ core by 2007 in Desktop CPUs and this "SHOULD" influence everyday software to get written for SMP.... We will see i guess.

 

[ZobarStyl]

It better be a whole lot of fast L2 if they are going to share it between 4 cores. I hope Intel moves their chips towards more true dual-core solutions like X2, instead of sharing caches and communicating via FSB. I mean, these seem like good ideas on a cost-saving chip, but anything that has to be competed for by the cores sets itself up to be the system bottleneck.

 

[BlingBlingArsch]

u better not mess with India, they got a-bombs too. and now they build ur cpu`s. lol this would piss me off indeed if i were an american. cars from germany, computers from germany and india, what exactly does america export? besides weapons? just kidding i love america.

btw: who the fukc needs 4cores? i can understand 2 cores are great for multitasking, but 4? what do they expect averagy joe to do with this CPU? who can even coordinate himself to control 4 apps at the same time? i can only talk for myself, but i never can work with more than two or three apps at the same time. 4cores are too much for me, ill stay with one or two.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Intelia
Don't know much about India except that its a poor country and kinda mystic. I also have never seen India as a threat to the USA. I mean why would I see a country as threat that allows cows to do what ever they want.

Do you even know why they let cows do whatever they want? I have been to India (and Tibet who is brutally abused by China who you ignored in the other thread as an Intel foundry partner).

Kind of mystic? What does that mean? Are you talking about the fact they were talking about Quantum Physics three thousand years before Western scientists made their discoveries? Are you talking about the fact that many of Christ's teachings are nearly word for word with Krishna's. (I am not saying Jesus copied Krishna)

You never answered my posts on the last thread about beefier cpus. You claim to not like AMD because they are made in Germany (a socialist democracy) because of events 50+ years ago, yet you like Intel with chip foundries in China who is currently raping, murdering, and plundering a nation (Tibet) into virtual extinction. Read up on the subject of who is currently Nazi like in their behavior and reply to this specific post.

Also, you do realize that AMD also already has quad and even eight way cores on the horizon correct?

I think it is great that the companies have found a way around the heat and leakage issues of high clocks, I just hope it doesn't take five years for all the applications to become multi-threaded.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
u better not mess with India, they got a-bombs too. and now they build ur cpu`s. lol this would piss me off indeed if i were an american. cars from germany, computers from germany and india, what exactly does america export? besides weapons? just kidding i love america.

btw: who the fukc needs 4cores? i can understand 2 cores are great for multitasking, but 4? what do they expect averagy joe to do with this CPU? who can even coordinate himself to control 4 apps at the same time? i can only talk for myself, but i never can work with more than two or three apps at the same time. 4cores are too much for me, ill stay with one or two.

I think the advantage comes into play when you are enoding one or two things simultaneously while playing a game and running a virus checker at the same time, LOL.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
u better not mess with India, they got a-bombs too. and now they build ur cpu`s. lol this would piss me off indeed if i were an american. cars from germany, computers from germany and india, what exactly does america export? besides weapons? just kidding i love america.

btw: who the fukc needs 4cores? i can understand 2 cores are great for multitasking, but 4? what do they expect averagy joe to do with this CPU? who can even coordinate himself to control 4 apps at the same time? i can only talk for myself, but i never can work with more than two or three apps at the same time. 4cores are too much for me, ill stay with one or two.

You know, an SMP aware app will use all available cores, right?

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Lonyo

Originally posted by: Duvie
<<the company's first all-Indian design>>

This doesn't piss you off today???


Other then that glad to see you are moving up the ladder of more reputable news sites...

Sounds cool...Have to wait to see more specs...Like what will the speed of each core be....How much cache and how effective is the sharing of the cache among 4 cores....

Does it piss you off that Banias came from Israel?

Not really... I like to fish and that's a cheap hobby I can do with a MCJob long as I don't mind off the banks and sell my boats..

This is not exactly news...Everything is moving out of USA. US tech leadership in a major decline. Craig Barret talks about it here: http://news.com.com/U.S.%2Btech%2Bedge%.../2100-1028_3-5579710.html?tag=nefd.top



[Intel CEO Craig] Barrett and other members of an "innovation" task force released a report that sounded one of the starkest warnings to date about greater foreign competition and reduced federal spending on basic research, which have combined to put "our economic competitiveness at risk."

"The downside could be very, very dramatic, especially as other countries target research universities" and as foreign students are no longer as drawn to top-tier U.S. institutions, said Barrett, who told an audience at a press conference here about the wealth of engineers graduating from Chinese universities...



"We're No. 2," said Diana Hicks, chair of the public-policy school at the Georgia Institute of Technology. "When it comes to science and technology, the U.S. has never been No. 2."

More
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050708/sc_nm/economy_usa_science_dc

Other then that glad to see you are moving up the ladder of more reputable news sites...

LMAO..classic

 

[Intelia]

On the 4 core question I have heard a lot of people say there interested in multiply LCD"S. If you run Cross Fire you should beable to run 4 programs on 4 LCDS at the same time. I am home user . This would come in handy for web creation for sure. There are other uses were I would find this handy.

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl
It better be a whole lot of fast L2 if they are going to share it between 4 cores. I hope Intel moves their chips towards more true dual-core solutions like X2, instead of sharing caches and communicating via FSB. I mean, these seem like good ideas on a cost-saving chip, but anything that has to be competed for by the cores sets itself up to be the system bottleneck.

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Shared cache is a + not a - And I am suer this will have at least 4MB of cache.

With shared cache if your only running 1 program u get the benefits of all the cache!

This is superior Cache not inferior!

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: Intelia
On the 4 core question I have heard a lot of people say there interested in multiply LCD"S. If you run Cross Fire you should beable to run 4 programs on 4 LCDS at the same time. I am home user . This would come in handy for web creation for sure. There are other uses were I would find this handy.

4 CPU cores, 4 GPU cores and 4 LCD screens? You're mistaking things for other things, or you're being ignorant on purpose. Also, the home user cannot afford a quad-core CPU, they can't afford 4 GPU cores and they certainly cannot afford 4 LCD screens. Also, which 'home user' even has a use for 4 cores? Last but not least (in the reply to this post), I know NO 'home users' that make webcontent. NONE.

Originally posted by: Intelia

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl
It better be a whole lot of fast L2 if they are going to share it between 4 cores. I hope Intel moves their chips towards more true dual-core solutions like X2, instead of sharing caches and communicating via FSB. I mean, these seem like good ideas on a cost-saving chip, but anything that has to be competed for by the cores sets itself up to be the system bottleneck.

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Shared cache is a + not a - And I am suer this will have at least 4MB of cache.

With shared cache if your only running 1 program u get the benefits of all the cache!

This is superior Cache not inferior!

Shared cache is a '-', tests show that. And, you're 'suer' that it'll have 'at least' 4 MB of cache? What, you working for Intel now? The thing you said about shared cache (

With shared cache if your only running 1 program u get the benefits of all the cache!

) is true, but keep in mind this isn't your usual low-latency cache, Intelia.

And whether or not this cache will be superior, well, we'll just have to wait and see, won't we? By the way, next time, let your husband review your post before you post it, maybe he can get some grammatical and spelling errors out of it .

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: Intelia
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/05/whitefield_intel_deets/

Interesting, this is the first I've heard that Intel is moving the Xeon platform to P-M cores.

Anyhow, Intel claimed that they'd have dual core before AMD, but they didn't, it's likely AMD will have a quad core Opteron available before this quad core Xeon is available. Nice to see this Xeon isn't a hack job like the current dual core Intel cpus though, but unless it has that new memory bus Intel was designing, I still can't see it competing well in a multi processor system.(as in more than 1 quad core cpu)

Don't know much about India except that its a poor country and kinda mystic. I also have never seen India as a threat to the USA. I mean why would I see a country as threat that allows cows to do what ever they want.

Intelia, where do you live again, and where were you born? Just curious, you seem to have a rather different world view than most people on this forum, so I'm wondering if maybe your origins are different.
Just for the record, India has very poor relations with Pakistan, both countries seem ready to spring into an arms race with each other.

It better be a whole lot of fast L2 if they are going to share it between 4 cores. I hope Intel moves their chips towards more true dual-core solutions like X2, instead of sharing caches and communicating via FSB. I mean, these seem like good ideas on a cost-saving chip, but anything that has to be competed for by the cores sets itself up to be the system bottleneck.

I believe it was mentioned in the article that this is a true multicore and not just multiple chips in the same package.

btw: who the fukc needs 4cores? i can understand 2 cores are great for multitasking, but 4? what do they expect averagy joe to do with this CPU? who can even coordinate himself to control 4 apps at the same time? i can only talk for myself, but i never can work with more than two or three apps at the same time. 4cores are too much for me, ill stay with one or two.

For programs that are multithreaded. I'd say mostly it's going to be programs that handle themselves, but look, now you can do virus scanning, video encoding, run a server, and play a game all at once.(btw, is hyperthreading dead with the new P-M based desktop cpus?)

Are you talking about the fact they were talking about Quantum Physics three thousand years before Western scientists made their discoveries?

Oooh, I wanna hear more about this, explain please. I wasn't aware any country three thousand years ago even had the basis to do anything with quantum physics, heck, most couldn't explain regular physics.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Fox5

Originally posted by: Intelia
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/05/whitefield_intel_deets/

Interesting, this is the first I've heard that Intel is moving the Xeon platform to P-M cores.

Anyhow, Intel claimed that they'd have dual core before AMD, but they didn't, it's likely AMD will have a quad core Opteron available before this quad core Xeon is available. Nice to see this Xeon isn't a hack job like the current dual core Intel cpus though, but unless it has that new memory bus Intel was designing, I still can't see it competing well in a multi processor system.(as in more than 1 quad core cpu)

Don't know much about India except that its a poor country and kinda mystic. I also have never seen India as a threat to the USA. I mean why would I see a country as threat that allows cows to do what ever they want.

Intelia, where do you live again, and where were you born? Just curious, you seem to have a rather different world view than most people on this forum, so I'm wondering if maybe your origins are different.
Just for the record, India has very poor relations with Pakistan, both countries seem ready to spring into an arms race with each other.

It better be a whole lot of fast L2 if they are going to share it between 4 cores. I hope Intel moves their chips towards more true dual-core solutions like X2, instead of sharing caches and communicating via FSB. I mean, these seem like good ideas on a cost-saving chip, but anything that has to be competed for by the cores sets itself up to be the system bottleneck.

I believe it was mentioned in the article that this is a true multicore and not just multiple chips in the same package.

btw: who the fukc needs 4cores? i can understand 2 cores are great for multitasking, but 4? what do they expect averagy joe to do with this CPU? who can even coordinate himself to control 4 apps at the same time? i can only talk for myself, but i never can work with more than two or three apps at the same time. 4cores are too much for me, ill stay with one or two.

For programs that are multithreaded. I'd say mostly it's going to be programs that handle themselves, but look, now you can do virus scanning, video encoding, run a server, and play a game all at once.(btw, is hyperthreading dead with the new P-M based desktop cpus?)

Are you talking about the fact they were talking about Quantum Physics three thousand years before Western scientists made their discoveries?

Oooh, I wanna hear more about this, explain please. I wasn't aware any country three thousand years ago even had the basis to do anything with quantum physics, heck, most couldn't explain regular physics.

LOL. Go read the Upanishads, Bhagavad Ghita and othe works from 2000BC to 100 AD (it was only written down in the 1200AD era because of religious and practical reasons but was passed down exactly in oral form before that). They speak extensively of consciousness affecting matter. They spoke of about the atomic form. How can I describe this? I will have to root around and find some books by physicists who dwelve into this matter (no pun itended, lol).

Think about what the current M Theory is in Quantum Mechanics. It is a combination of super-gravition theory and string theory. Basically, and in simplest not physicist terms, the universe is made up of incredibly tiny strings that vibrate at different frequencies that cause different forms of matter and energy. Sound familiar to the Hindu OM? It describes the OM as the vibratory frequency of the universe from which all springs.

String Theory, the theory of OM

Professor speaking of Physics and the Upanishads

Of course the mystics and Yogis of two thousand years ago didn't speak in scientific terms of Quantic Physics but spoke about it in their terms. I bet it will open your eyes. (Or Eye, as the case may be :laugh: )

 

[clarkey01]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
u better not mess with India, they got a-bombs too. and now they build ur cpu`s. lol this would piss me off indeed if i were an american. cars from germany, computers from germany and india, what exactly does america export? besides weapons? just kidding i love america.

btw: who the fukc needs 4cores? i can understand 2 cores are great for multitasking, but 4? what do they expect averagy joe to do with this CPU? who can even coordinate himself to control 4 apps at the same time? i can only talk for myself, but i never can work with more than two or three apps at the same time. 4cores are too much for me, ill stay with one or two.

You know, an SMP aware app will use all available cores, right?

Is it that down to the OS ? XP pro can handle is it 4 threads ? while home can only handle 2 threads ? I'm a little foggy.

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: Intelia
Don't know much about India except that its a poor country and kinda mystic. I also have never seen India as a threat to the USA. I mean why would I see a country as threat that allows cows to do what ever they want.

Do you even know why they let cows do whatever they want? I have been to India (and Tibet who is brutally abused by China who you ignored in the other thread as an Intel foundry partner).

Kind of mystic? What does that mean? Are you talking about the fact they were talking about Quantum Physics three thousand years before Western scientists made their discoveries? Are you talking about the fact that many of Christ's teachings are nearly word for word with Krishna's. (I am not saying Jesus copied Krishna)

You never answered my posts on the last thread about beefier cpus. You claim to not like AMD because they are made in Germany (a socialist democracy) because of events 50+ years ago, yet you like Intel with chip foundries in China who is currently raping, murdering, and plundering a nation (Tibet) into virtual extinction. Read up on the subject of who is currently Nazi like in their behavior and reply to this specific post.

Also, you do realize that AMD also already has quad and even eight way cores on the horizon correct?

I think it is great that the companies have found a way around the heat and leakage issues of high clocks, I just hope it doesn't take five years for all the applications to become multi-threaded.

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NA I don't know much about the cow thing other than they are considered sacred animals. I do know they had electric lights and batteries 3,000 years ago. I do know as a child Christ was educated there. Lights and batteries 3,000 years ago would seem mystical to other peoples.


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You never answered my posts on the last thread about beefier cpus. You claim to not like AMD because they are made in Germany (a socialist democracy) because of events 50+ years ago, yet you like Intel with chip foundries in China who is currently raping, murdering, and plundering a nation (Tibet) into virtual extinction. Read up on the subject of who is currently Nazi like in their behavior and reply to this specific post

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Again you put words in my mouth I never said . That comment was made towards Duvie about like thinkers go back reread! Name calling and such reminded me of Nazis thats what I said. If I don't agree with your ideas you revert to name calling and slander. Just go back and reread the first post that I brought that subject up. Get over it.

I would like a post were China is fabing Intel Cpu's other than P2 or P3 . I am more upset that the Chinese had to get permission from Germany to Fab American Chips . That permission should come from the USA government not Germany.I also plainely stated I didn't like AMD because if your going to pay high wages to make chips it should be done in USA . Clearly stated that 3 times. Thats My final words on that subject . I a

 

[Intelia]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: Intelia
On the 4 core question I have heard a lot of people say there interested in multiply LCD"S. If you run Cross Fire you should beable to run 4 programs on 4 LCDS at the same time. I am home user . This would come in handy for web creation for sure. There are other uses were I would find this handy.

4 CPU cores, 4 GPU cores and 4 LCD screens? You're mistaking things for other things, or you're being ignorant on purpose. Also, the home user cannot afford a quad-core CPU, they can't afford 4 GPU cores and they certainly cannot afford 4 LCD screens. Also, which 'home user' even has a use for 4 cores? Last but not least (in the reply to this post), I know NO 'home users' that make webcontent. NONE.

Originally posted by: Intelia

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl
It better be a whole lot of fast L2 if they are going to share it between 4 cores. I hope Intel moves their chips towards more true dual-core solutions like X2, instead of sharing caches and communicating via FSB. I mean, these seem like good ideas on a cost-saving chip, but anything that has to be competed for by the cores sets itself up to be the system bottleneck.

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Shared cache is a + not a - And I am suer this will have at least 4MB of cache.

With shared cache if your only running 1 program u get the benefits of all the cache!

This is superior Cache not inferior!

Shared cache is a '-', tests show that. And, you're 'suer' that it'll have 'at least' 4 MB of cache? What, you working for Intel now? The thing you said about shared cache (

With shared cache if your only running 1 program u get the benefits of all the cache!

) is true, but keep in mind this isn't your usual low-latency cache, Intelia.

And whether or not this cache will be superior, well, we'll just have to wait and see, won't we? By the way, next time, let your husband review your post before you post it, maybe he can get some grammatical and spelling errors out of it .

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Where did u come up with 4 GPU'S . My ATI card can run 2 LCDS on one GPU. Please don't tell me were Intel is going with future Cpu's as none of us knows were there going but we can guess . Also burn you little Flamer