3dMark06 score and clockspeed too low?

[foolfromhell]

W/ an e6600 and an 8800GTX, people get 12000 or more on 3dMark06.
I am getting 7200 with all bells and whistles turned on. Its a 3486 on SM2.0, 3239 on HDR/SM3.0, and 1626 on CPU.
CPU-Z says my e6600 clock never rises over 1.9GHz. This is all on stock clocks.
I dont understand whats the matter!
Can someone help me understand whats wrong?

 

[foolfromhell]

Someone mentioned speedstep earlier, but when running Oblivion, I dont get higher clock speeds.
How do I disable SpeedStep?
Id rather get performance than save a couple of dollars a week.

 

[orion23]

You need to go into the system bios or setup

Press F2 , F1, or Delete to enter the setup menu

Look through all the settings and see if you can find the Intel SpeedStep technology option

Also, don't think that everyone can break the 12000 point mark.

I needed my E6600 @ 3.8ghz and my 8800GTX @ 630 / 488 in order to score 12015 points.

 

[foolfromhell]

Ah. Is there a way to go more than 9x multiplier? My eVGA mobo keeps telling me its not allowed.

 

[orion23]

No, 9 is the highest. You need to raise the FSB instead.

List your system's components to see what you have and what you might be able to do:

RAM
PSU
CPU Cooler

Are you familiar with overclocking?

 

[foolfromhell]

RAM is Corsair DDR2 800 at 4-4-4-12
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145034
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817703005
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16835118003
e6600
eVGA 680i motherboard.
8800GTX
I have not OCed before.
CPU runs at 37C and Case is at 40C. HDD is at 40C
Wierd... thought CPU would be more.

 

[orion23]

Overclocking is not that hard, specially when dealing with Core 2 Duo's...

Unfortunately I am not familiar with the Nvidia 680i boards.

But this is the basic idea behind overclocking:

Your E6600 has a multiplier of 9 and your default FSB is 266 mhz.
The ram speed required for your system is DDR2 533mhz (2 X FSB)

To overclock your system (basic overclocking) you will simply need to raise the FSB and that will give you you're target speed.

Your RAM runs @ 800mhz, if you divide that by 2, then your RAM will be able to handle at least a 400 FSB (2 X FSB = 800mhz)

And a 400 FSB X 9 multiplier and memory running @ DDR2 800mhz = 3.6ghz.

350 FSB X 9 DDR2 700mhz = 3150

and so on...

Now, you need to set your RAM timings in the BIOS, manually, as well as the default Voltage recommended for your RAM (check the specifications)

Now, start small.

Try 300 FSB X 9 which should be done easily.

You will then encounter a problem when you go too high and that's when you'll need to change your cpu's default voltage. (1.288V

If you have a good chip, it will do 3.6ghz with 1.5V or less

The more voltage the higher the temperature it will be. BTW, your temperatures are a little high for a CPU running @ default speeds.

Oh, and your CPU cooler is not that good. Think of upgrading to a Tuniq Tower 120, Scythe Infinity or Thermalright Utra 120.

If you want to learn more, go to www.xtremesystems.org/forums and read through the forums. Lots of help there...

 

[foolfromhell]

Alright. I got my clock to 2.95GHz.
and shaved 10 seconds off superpi 1million time.
But, Speedfan says my temps have decreased. What program to use to accurately gauge temps?

 

[Hyperlite]

Originally posted by: foolfromhell
Alright. I got my clock to 2.95GHz.
and shaved 10 seconds off superpi 1million time.
But, Speedfan says my temps have decreased. What program to use to accurately gauge temps?

give Core Temp a try.

 

[orion23]

Get TAT Here:

http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=115390

And CoreTemp is a good program too:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103638

Try and go higher and see how much your CPU can overclock.

Set the CPU voltage to 1.3875 and the FSB to 401mhz for a 3.6ghz overclock.

Other voltages you might need to look at are the

VFSB
VMCH
(Can't remember this 3rd one)

Just up those a bit as well.........

The main voltage you need to play with is the Vcore or CPU Voltage. Default is about 1.288 and maximum on AIR should be about 1.5V

Some don't like anything past 1.4
Others think 1.55 is the limit
Crazy ones use 1.6 and above

 

[foolfromhell]

in Core Temp, whats Tjunction? Its the only thing above 40C, and its at 85C
Is a CPU temp of 50C low enough? thats what I get at 3.6GHz
Thanks
P.S. CPU-Z records clock at 2.4Ghz. Im gonna revert to 2.9 for now

 

[orion23]

Well, as I said before, the 9500 CPU cooler is not that good for an overclocked Core 2 Duo chip. I had one and had to replace it with a thermalright Ultra 120.

Is that 50c idle?

Try and get it lower, since your maximum temperatures should not go past 65c or so.

Get yourself a Tuniq Tower 120 (before it is out of stock again), so that you can overclock with lower temperatures. http://www.jab-tech.com/Tuniq-Tower-120-pr-3593.html

I have an E6600 that can do 3.6ghz with 1.375 and the idle temperatures with TAT or CoreTemp are 28-31c, and loads in the 40's....

So you have gone to 3.6ghz already?

What voltage did you use for that? If you did it with 1.4 or less, you have a great chip there!

In the Bios, there are a few option regarding CPU options such as C1E, Speedstep, Virtualization...... Those have to be disabled as well. That's the reason why CPU-Z reports the wrong speed.

 

[geokilla]

I have an AMD X-2 3800+ at stock speeds. I usually use Asus' PC Probe II and it says my idle temperatures are at around 24-25 degrees. I opened coretemp and it said my CPU temps were at a whopping 40 and 29 degrees. Which program should i trust. 15 degrees is a HUGE difference.....

 

[foolfromhell]

cpu-z reported it at 2.4GHz, while my voltage was at 1.3***** so the temp was increased. This is idle btw. 50C. I guess I will stick to 2.9 till I can get a tuniq tower. Not really inclined to spend another $50 on a CPU cooler. Gonna wait a while.
Thanks for all the help. I think I will stick to 2.9 for now.

 

[cmdrdredd]

If you overclock turn off speed step. According to what you're saying in your posts you are clocked in bios to 1.9Ghz but it's going down to 2.4 because of speedstep.

 

[foolfromhell]

When at 2.9GHz, games randomly shut down, not often though.
When at 3.6GHz, windows randomly shuts down, quite often.
Is this a side effect?

 

[betasub]

Originally posted by: foolfromhell
Is this a side effect?

Of an unstable overclock, yes.

If your temps weren't so high already, I'd suggest increasing your Vcore. As it is you need to lower your FSB overclock until you have improved your CPU cooling.

 

[foolfromhell]

Well... having these problems un-OCed