3D Vision 2 and The Asus VG278H LCD Review

[videopho]

http://hothardware.com/Reviews/NVIDIA-3D-Vision-2-and-The-Asus-VG278-LCD/?page=1

From the reviewer final words:

NVIDIA’s full 3D Vision 2 glasses kit, which includes one pair of 3D Vision 2 glasses and a wireless USB IR emitter will be available this month for $149. Extra 3D Vision 2 glasses will also be available for $99 a pop. At those prices, NVIDIA 3D Vision 2 options are right about on par price-wise with existing 3D Vision kits. Considering the improvements to the glasses, we have to commend NVIDIA for not jacking up the price here.

Overall, we have to say NVIDIA’s 3D Vision 2 kit, when paired to a Lightboost-equipped monitor like the Asus VG278H is a clear step ahead of the company’s original solution. 3D Vision already offered arguably the best 3D experience for PC gamers and it only gets better with 3D Vision 2. If you were thinking about taking the plunge into 3D, you’ll most likely be pleased with this new solution from NVIDIA. We have yet to come across a competing 3D technology that offers the kind of compatibility, support, and performance of NVIDIA’s 3D Vision 2. If these things don’t offer the kind of 3D performance you’re looking for, nothing on the PC is going to.

 

[Annisman*]

Anybody think it would be worth it to pick up these new glasses, even though I have somewhat older 120hz monitors that don't support the new Lightboost technology ? Also, if I only bought the glasses for 99 dollars, would they be plug and play with the older 3D kit ?

 

[nanaki333]

i like the old ones because they work on like any projection TV made in the last 4 years.

 

[videopho]

New glasses are backward compatible to current IR emitter.
They have 20% more real estate than the 1st gen.

 

[nanaki333]

New glasses are backward compatible to current IR emitter.
They have 20% more real estate than the 1st gen.

yeah, but the way i understood it when i read an article on them, they need the newer displays that do the dimming. my old DLP works great with my v1 glasses.

 

[SirPauly]

The new glasses are welcomed, based on the larger eye real-estate and improvements help with bigger monitors and 3d vision surround, one may imagine, and if they're more comfortable, certainly nice.

The key to me is lightboost, to help improve the quality. 3d stereo is a very convincing effect and to improve its quality and improve upon its limitations is very welcomed.

 

[destrekor]

I want. So want.

But need it to be a smaller size so it can double as a 2D 60HZ monitor for Nvidia Surround, as I can't afford a system that can readily play titles in both 3D and at triple-monitor resolution without looking like an absolute mess.
But if I'm going to buy a 3D monitor, I want it to have the latest tech... and I'm trying to buy one now. Dammit. I'd love to have my main monitor be a 3D display and have two IPS monitors flank it.

yeah, but the way i understood it when i read an article on them, they need the newer displays that do the dimming. my old DLP works great with my v1 glasses.

3D Vision 2 glasses, based on the articles I've read, will work perfectly fine on older 120hz displays. You won't get any improvements, aside from the physical differences of the glasses/frames (larger, more comfortable? etc).

So if you want the backlight modulation you have to use a pair of 3DV2 glasses with a 3DV2-spec monitor, otherwise any combination of 3DV2 and 3DV1-spec glasses and monitors is possible.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

The one 3d v2 monitor available is $700 I believe. Nvidia has lost their minds.

 

[tviceman]

The one 3d v2 monitor available is $700 I believe. Nvidia has lost their minds.

Well consider that it's 27", 120hz, and comes with the 3D kit... yes it's still pricey, but in comparison an older V1 23" screen with the 3D kit costs $466 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236092 so the price premium for the size and "better" tech is probably justified.

But yes, it's still prohibitively expensive.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Well consider that it's 27", 120hz, and comes with the 3D kit... yes it's still pricey, but in comparison an older V1 23" screen with the 3D kit costs $466 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236092 so the price premium for the size and "better" tech is probably justified.

But yes, it's still prohibitively expensive.

Prohibitively expensive? That's a nice way of putting it. Add in the cost of a gaming computer capable of running 3D and you're looking at the better part of 2K. At these prices I might as well start adding goodies onto my F150 truck or buying another motorcycle to tool around on. Something I can actually get some use out of.
Nvidia has lost its mind. This seems really out of touch with the consumer and the way the market is. People are fighting to keep the lights on and nvidia is trying to sell a 2.0 version of 3D for a grand a pop. Good luck.

 

[Seero]

The one 3d v2 monitor available is $700 I believe. Nvidia has lost their minds.

Nvidia don't sell monitors. The new 3d kit is $149 US, same price as the previous one.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Nvidia don't sell monitors. The new 3d kit is $149 US, same price as the previous one.

So nvidia has no control over the cost of the equipment that's 3D vision2 ready? They could of grabbed a handful of manufacturers and told them we need this made and we have to keep it under X price and they would of had a line out the door of manufacturers ready to build them. This to me is just bad business. Yeah 3D is cool. I've had a nvidia 3d setup not long after it came out. Having said that it's not $700 cool. It's a nice way to change it up from the 2d occasionally. This tech is going nowhere at these prices. You're gonna only have a handful of guys that can afford it. I don't see many gaming developers going out of their way to develop 3D games for a handful of gamers.

 

[Seero]

So nvidia has no control over the cost of the equipment that's 3D vision2 ready? They could of grabbed a handful of manufacturers and told them we need this made and we have to keep it under X price and they would of had a line out the door of manufacturers ready to build them. This to me is just bad business. Yeah 3D is cool. I've had a nvidia 3d setup not long after it came out. Having said that it's not $700 cool. It's a nice way to change it up from the 2d occasionally. This tech is going nowhere at these prices. You're gonna only have a handful of guys that can afford it. I don't see many gaming developers going out of their way to develop 3D games for a handful of gamers.

First, there is another thread talking about having 3 of those. Second, it is the latest and greatest technology, but if you wish to, you have to pay premium to get it. If you are willing to wait, the price will eventually come down. Compare to a camera lens, 3x those is still cheap. One speaker can cost up to 20k. I don't know why, but I know there is a market for those. Don't like it? Work harder or forget about it.

BTW, where can you get a motorcycle with 2k?

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

First, there is another thread talking about having 3 of those. Second, you know have to get the latest and greatest technology, but if you wish to, you have to pay premium for it. If you are willing to wait, the price will eventually come down. Compare to a camera lens, 3x those is still cheap. One speaker can cost up to 20k. I don't know why, but I know there is a market for those. Don't like it? Work harder or forget about it.

BTW, where can you get a motorcycle with 2k?

I bought a 600cc ninja once for 3k. It was a little older but in great condition.
Work harder or forget about it? LoL! My mortgage payment is probably is more than your total monthly income kid.

 

[Seero]

I bought a 600cc ninja once for 3k. It was a little older but in great condition.
Work harder or forget about it? LoL! My mortgage payment is probably is more than your total monthly income kid.

In that case you should not have any problems on the price of those monitors. Seriously, 27" 120hz bro. Link one under 600 and we can start talking about problems with pricing.

Acer HN274H 27IN 120hz $690
Samsung S27A950D 27IN 120hz $690
Dell Ultrasharp U2711 27IN 60hz (2560X1440) $900

Please don't make my sounded like a troll.

Side Note: I always wanted to get a bike. 3k for one is a great deal IMO (don't know anything about bike other than it has 2 wheels).

 

[notigg]

oilfield.... they also announced that there will be a BenQ at 120hz supporting this new tech... it will be smaller and there will even be a version without the stuff bundled. I bet it will be the same price as the new samsungs (around 400)

 

[SirPauly]

Considering it is the latest 27 inch tech for a 120hz screen, bundled with 3d vision 2 glasses and lightboost compatible, what did one expect the price to be?

Let's say 500 dollars? Take the price of the glasses out of the equation, does anyone really believe one can receive a monitor of this magnitude for 350 dollars?

Innovation and differentiation, translates into some premium pricing -- that's to be expected.

 

[destrekor]

In that case you should not have any problems on the price of those monitors. Seriously, 27" 120hz bro. Link one under 600 and we can start talking about problems with pricing.

Acer HN274H 27IN 120hz $690
Samsung S27A950D 27IN 120hz $690
Dell Ultrasharp U2711 27IN 60hz (2560X1440) $900

Please don't make my sounded like a troll.

Side Note: I always wanted to get a bike. 3k for one is a great deal IMO (don't know anything about bike other than it has 2 wheels).

Let's be fair, that Dell is an IPS. Large 8 or 10-bit IPS monitors are not cheap.
Hell, 6-bit IPS is just about the same pricing as most TN panels now, and 8-bit 24" or smaller IPS panels are just now becoming competitive with TN panel prices.
But in general, outside of super-cheap TN panels, seeing 27" under $500 isn't common.

Plus, if the last-generation 120hz panels are any comparison, these upcoming 27" 120hz displays will be among the best of the TN class. Plus they'll offer a "new" trick that other panel technologies aren't doing yet, true 120hz over DVI-D.

I'd love a 120hz IPS (one that's also super-fast with minimal input lag). IPS displays are coming into their own now in terms of speed and input lag, now we just need the leap to 120hz.

I say that because I am absolutely in love with new ASUS PA238Q (23" 1920x1080 IPS). I wish it was glossy versus matte/AG-coating, and there are indeed slight uniformity issues with the LED backlight, but there is certainly no such thing as a perfect IPS panel on a $300 23" panel, especially one with a highly-capable adjustable stand from the factory.

Two more are on the way to complete the nVidia surround. I figured, I can't wait for the new crop of 120hz monitors (the ones with Lightboost for 3D Vision 2), so I'd go with a triple-setup of the same monitor that way I'm guaranteed zero issues when setting up Nvidia Surround. At some point I'll try and sell one of them so I can replace it with a 23 or 24" 120hz monitor.