3D blu-ray almost here

blackangst1

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This is pretty neat! Im wondering if this technology can be back ported to older movies? This could be a nice market niche.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2009/12/hollywood-has-been-so-enthralled.ars

3D high-def movies coming to your living room on Blu-ray

Get ready for the 3D movie revolution to come your your home theater next year. The Blu-ray Disc Association has approved a final spec to deliver high def 3D movies on Blu-ray discs. If you don't want to spend the cash for 3D hardware, it is thankfully backward compatible with today's Blu-ray drives.

Hollywood has been so enthralled with the recent renaissance of 3D in the theater that the Blu-ray Disc Association has finalized a specification for delivering full 1080p high definition stereoscopic video on Blu-ray discs. The format relies on an extension to the H.264 encoding standard, and provides for a fallback to 2D output on players that can't decode the separate stereoscopic images. It's been a long time coming, but along with a recent update to the HDMI spec and a coming wave of 3D-capable displays, the technology is now in place to deliver the full 3D experience at home.
The specification, which will be published shortly for device manufacturers and content producers, specifies encoding two separate 1080p frames together using the Multiview Video Coding (MVC) extension to the H.264 Advanced Video Coding (AVC) codec—one of the codecs already supported for creating Blu-ray discs. This method allows the two separate views, one for each eye, to be compressed together in such a way that common elements from both views are melded together. The result is that a 3D-encoded movie should typically only take up about 50 percent more space on disc compared to a 2D version, and players that aren't 3D-capable will be able to play back a 2D version instead, for backward compatibility.
Additionally, the specification is technology-agnostic when it comes to how to create the 3D effect. It will deliver two 1080p frames to the display, and the display will then use whatever method it can to create a 3D effect—whether it's passive filtered glasses, active filtered switching glasses, anaglyph, etc.
"Throughout this year, movie goers have shown an overwhelming preference for 3D when presented with the option to see a theatrical release in either 3D or 2D," said Victor Matsuda, BDA Global Promotions Committee chairman, in a statement. "We believe this demand for 3D content will carry over into the home now that we have, in Blu-ray Disc, a medium that can deliver a quality Full HD 3D experience to the living room."
Of course, taking advantage of that full 3D experience will still require an additional investment in compatible displays, Blu-ray players, and other necessary hardware like specialized (and often expensive) glasses. The HDMI 1.4 spec enables transfer of two full 1080p signals from players to displays, and a number of current 120 Hz 2D displays can be used for 3D viewing with special glasses. Also, suppliers like LG and Sony plan to launch 3D-capable displays in the coming months. New 3D-capable Blu-ray players will have to be manufactured, but PS3 owners will be delighted to know that the specification should be compatible with work Sony has already done to enable 3D gaming on its console.
Still, 3D discs will still play just fine on 2D players, which should mitigate a storm of customer indignation which would follow if backwards compatibility had not been addressed. "We think the broad and rapid acceptance Blu-ray Disc already enjoys with consumers will be a factor in accelerating the uptake of 3D in the home," Matsuda said. "In the meantime, existing players and libraries can continue to be fully enjoyed as consumers consider extending into 3D home entertainment."
 

sivart

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Yeah, I get to buy all new hardware....pass.

Too much of a gimmick for me. Remember multi-angle on DVD, that was utilized a lot. Remember BD-Live on Blu-ray...oh yeah, that stills isn't worth using.
 

JackBurton

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As long as it's backwards compatible I'm fine with it. But they better not start charging $50 per disc.
 

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Anyone know how the projector industry is handling 3D? Are there any out right now that would be forwards compatible with these 3D techs like many of the 120hz LCD displays already are?
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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That's why buying a PS3 or flagship Bluray player is always the best. They'll always keep it updated to new specs.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Anyone know how the projector industry is handling 3D? Are there any out right now that would be forwards compatible with these 3D techs like many of the 120hz LCD displays already are?

Last time I checked, none of the 120Hz front projectors were actually able to accept an input at that frequency, so no go on compatibility.

EDIT:

hmmmm
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1203373
 
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jtvang125

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I've never seen a full movie in 3D at the theaters but I have seen the short 3D clips (last year superbowl commericals, 3D rides at theme parks) and the effects can be pretty cool but I get a headache and nauseated from them. So I don't think I can stomach a whole movie without getting sick.
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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SIM2 has a 3D projector, but it ain't cheap:

http://www.sim2usa.com/home/us/node/18303

Well if you're just going to stack two one top of one another, you can get 3D using other projectors too ;)

(Some people are doing 3D gaming in their home with dual projectors now)

EDIT: I should say that I really haven't looked into this much. I don't know much about what's available except for an overall impression of "things aren't ready yet".
 
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