3930k SB-E (hecta core w/ HT) or 4970k?

[poohbear]

hey all, the upgrade itch has hit pretty hard and its not going away this time! I was planning on going 4790k with Z97 setup (Asrock OC Formula), but a sweat deal came about wherein i can get a 3930k with a hig end Gigabyte g1. Assassin 2 mobo for a little more ($500 for the new 4790k & Asrock OC formula vs $650 for used 3930k & Gigabyte's mobo).

Which would u guys choose? i understand the 3930k has 6 cores and 12 threads, but should i pay $150 more for that setup? Will i notice it? Mostly for gaming (SLI user here) and video editing.

I'm inclined to go with the 4970k for better efficiency, clock for clock a faster haswell CPU, and the new SSD ports of the Z97 chipset, the $150 i save can go to a new video card when Maxwell's comeout. What do you guys think?

 

[Grooveriding]

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[Grooveriding]

For about $600 you should be able to get a 5820K + MB. The only additional cost coming in the form of the DDR4 required, which is about $250 for 16GB worth. I don't know that I would take a used processor and motherboard for more money over a brand new 4790K.

I would either get the 4790K Z97 setup or spend a bit more and get a 5820K setup.

 

[Gikaseixas]

I would either get the 4790K Z97 setup or spend a bit more and get a 5820K setup.

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[guskline]

I bought my 3930k in the early part of 2013 for a great price and have been pleased with it.

However, we are now in the fall (soon) of 2014. The Haswell E chipsets and cpus are coming out soon so they will be the newest but big $$$.

However, looking at your specs and the fact that gaming is first priority, I would go for a new 4790k, good OCing mb and wait till the new maxwells come out.

 

[RussianSensation]

Best upgrade for games is to sell your 670s and get 780 GHz editions or upcoming 870/880s. Otherwise I would either get a new 4790K or spend a bit more for new 5820K setup.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Best upgrade for games is to sell your 670s and get 780 GHz editions or upcoming 870/880s. Otherwise I would either get a new 4790K or spend a bit more for new 5820K setup.

So -- Russian-guy -- is your sig up to date?

Reason I ask that: mine still is, and we're both definitely sporting the same-gen components.

In these forums, I don't want to discourage folks from spending money on "latest-greatest," because the membership weights heavily toward the compulsive-obsessive enthusiasts. I'm also counting my own pennies this year, trying to avoid compulsive-obsessive outlays.

I'm contemplating a Haswell-E build next year. But this "old" SB-K rig still astounds me. I DID upgrade my storage subsystem to SSD, and my graphics to a GTX 780 (single). And . . . I'm still astounded, and still counting my pennies . . .

It's either "Six cores? Six cores? Whadda we need six cores for?" Or "Six Cores! What I wouldn' give for six cores!"

 

[cbn]

EDIT: With the OP mentioning SLI and video editing, I think taking a closer look at the i7-5820K would be a wise idea.

Just realize i7-5820K has only 28 PCI-E lanes (compared to 40 lanes for the other Haswell-E chips).

 

[BonzaiDuck]

EDIT: With the OP mentioning SLI and video editing, I think taking a closer look at the i7-5820K would be a wise idea.

Just realize i7-5820K has only 28 PCI-E lanes (compared to 40 lanes for the other Haswell-E chips).

Interesting. You could choose the "right" motherboard immediately, and then it could be a question of total outlays and the time, trouble and expense offering up a 5820K on EBay. Can I split hairs? You would have to consider a time-stream of net present-values if you could even quantify the various types of cost and benefit.

 

[AdamK47]

You may start seeing an influx of used IB-E CPUs and X79 motherboards going for great prices very soon.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

You may start seeing an influx of used IB-E CPUs and X79 motherboards going for great prices very soon.

Maybe it wasn't you -- maybe it was someone else who warned me off about X79 being an old, outdated chipset. On the processors, I'd watch for used units or "surplus" or "OEM-pulls." But one really has to ask what the additional cost (or savings) is worth for an outlay on Haswell-E and DDR4.

 

[biostud]

EDIT: With the OP mentioning SLI and video editing, I think taking a closer look at the i7-5820K would be a wise idea.

Just realize i7-5820K has only 28 PCI-E lanes (compared to 40 lanes for the other Haswell-E chips).

Yeah, but you will still be able to run 16x/8x SLI + 4PCIe 3.0 lanes extra + 8 PCIe 2.0 lanes from the chipset. And so far there's no performance difference between 16x/16x SLI and 16x/8x SLI.

 

[poohbear]

ok thanks guys, i'm gonna get me a brand spanking new 4790k & Asrock OC Formula! Much more future proof as i wanna get me a nice 10gb/s SSD when they come out!

Now, my heatsink, the gigantic Noctua NH DH14 from my z68 setup will work just fine on a Z97 mobo right? It has the same CPU mount and screws in the same spots, yes?

 

[exar333]

This

This +1.

 

[RussianSensation]

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Now, my heatsink, the gigantic Noctua NH DH14 from my z68 setup will work just fine on a Z97 mobo right? It has the same CPU mount and screws in the same spots, yes?

Yes, it will fit. Also, even if in the future when Intel releases a new socket, Noctua sends free mounting kits with proof of purchase.
http://www.techpowerup.com/204084/n...de-for-upcoming-intel-haswell-e-platform.html

 

[poohbear]

Yes, it will fit. Also, even if in the future when Intel releases a new socket, Noctua sends free mounting kits with proof of purchase.
http://www.techpowerup.com/204084/n...de-for-upcoming-intel-haswell-e-platform.html

thank u sir! Yes they're awesome!

 

[cbn]

ok thanks guys, i'm gonna get me a brand spanking new 4790k & Asrock OC Formula! Much more future proof as i wanna get me a nice 10gb/s SSD when they come out!

If you want to be future proof for M.2, I would reconsider the Z97.

(I have a Z97 and like your $210 motherboard here---> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157502, it only takes M.2 (PCIe 2.0 x2))

Actually for $210, I bet a person could buy a lower end X99 board that will probably have better features than that Z97 (and most likely M.2 ultra as well). The major downside though is we may not see the budget X99 arrive on the initial release on Friday? Or maybe we will?

 

[poohbear]

cbn, how r u finding that mobo? all good with it?

 

[RussianSensation]

So -- Russian-guy -- is your sig up to date?

Reason I ask that: mine still is, and we're both definitely sporting the same-gen components.

In these forums, I don't want to discourage folks from spending money on "latest-greatest," because the membership weights heavily toward the compulsive-obsessive enthusiasts. I'm also counting my own pennies this year, trying to avoid compulsive-obsessive outlays.

I'm contemplating a Haswell-E build next year. But this "old" SB-K rig still astounds me. I DID upgrade my storage subsystem to SSD, and my graphics to a GTX 780 (single). And . . . I'm still astounded, and still counting my pennies . . .

It's either "Six cores? Six cores? Whadda we need six cores for?" Or "Six Cores! What I wouldn' give for six cores!"

Yup, that's my current sig. Yours is even better (faster CPU, better/larger SSD). I have been away from home for more than a year for a work contract that was supposed to be only 6 months but has now extended to > 1.5 years. I never took my PC with me and don't have time to fly back home, which makes it easy to not upgrade. I am finding that as I am moving up in my career, the less time I have for games, which means I have a huge backlog of PC games. My 2500K and 7970s laugh at the older games in my backlog which means I have no *need* to upgrade. The only reason I'd consider upgrading now is for fun, not because I'd need it per say. I think on the GPU side I'd be a lot more likely to upgrade if I moved up to a 32-37" 4K IPS monitor but those are way too expensive right now.

I don't see the point for you to upgrade to HW-E next year. Either buy it really soon or might as well get BW-E or Skylake-K. For gaming though a 2600K OC is plenty fast and you already have plenty of DDR3. I just don't see the point since your single GPU will be the bottleneck anyway. It's crazy to think that by January 2015 a 2600K will be 4 years old and a max OC 4790K is hardly faster in the real world! :\

 

[cbn]

cbn, how r u finding that mobo? all good with it?

I don't have the Asrock, I have a MSI board.

 

[cbn]

Update:

It looks like low end x99 boards with multiple M.2 slots are available on launch:

Example is this $229 MSI X99S SLI Plus listed in the anandtech review--> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-796-_-Product

Four M.2 slots (all PCIe 3.0 x 4)

EDIT: The newegg listing is in error. There is only one M.2 slot (though it is PCIe 3.0 x4)

 

[Denithor]

I am finding that as I am moving up in my career, the less time I have for games, which means I have a huge backlog of PC games.

Ain't that the truth! When young, have time but no money for high end gaming machine. When older, have money but no time. Should be a balance somewhere in there...