360 radiator and 2 CPUs?

[Socio]

Just curious,

I am going to be upgrading soon and am going to switch to a liquid cpu coolers on a dual socket LGA 2011 v3 motherboard, it will be my first go at liquid cooling.

I planned on using two Corsair Hydro single cpu coolers but I have room for a 360 radiator.

So I was thinking that I could get more efficient cooling if I was able to cool two CPUs with a single 360 radiator vs individual 120 radiators.

Is that even a viable option?

 

[Tim]

Without much overclocking going on, I don't see why not. They make single 120mm radiator solutions in AIO's that do just fine on one CPU. I don't see why a 360 for two wouldn't be sufficient.

Can't say I've tried it, hopefully someone who has will chime in.

 

[MrTeal]

Just curious,

I am going to be upgrading soon and am going to switch to a liquid cpu coolers on a dual socket LGA 2011 v3 motherboard, it will be my first go at liquid cooling.

I planned on using two Corsair Hydro single cpu coolers but I have room for a 360 radiator.

So I was thinking that I could get more efficient cooling if I was able to cool two CPUs with a single 360 radiator vs individual 120 radiators.

Is that even a viable option?

The setup you propose would be better than 120mm all in one coolers. Going with a full custom water setup is a bit more work though. You might want to look into something like the Swiftech H320 X2 cooler, and then adding in another waterblock for the second CPU.

 

[Socio]

The setup you propose would be better than 120mm all in one coolers. Going with a full custom water setup is a bit more work though. You might want to look into something like the Swiftech H320 X2 cooler, and then adding in another waterblock for the second CPU.

So I would get the Swiftech H320, a second waterblock, and extra hose then run the out from radiator to first cpu block input them from fist cpu output to second cpu block input, then second cpu block output to the input on the radiator creating a double CPU loop?

 

[Rubycon]

See if you can find the Swiftech used to save $$$. Their waterblocks aren't that good. If you have the rad/pump assembly (the pump is pretty strong but you want to run it at low speed because it whines) you can use several blocks in series. EK EVO is a decent block for 2011 sockets.

If you have the room you can also run a pair of H110s, etc.

Do you plan on overlocking or want a quiet system?

 

[MrTeal]

So I would get the Swiftech H320, a second waterblock, and extra hose then run the out from radiator to first cpu block input them from fist cpu output to second cpu block input, then second cpu block output to the input on the radiator creating a double CPU loop?

Pretty much. You'll need to buy a couple 3/8" barbs and a bit of 3/8" tubing, but other than that you'd have everything you need. Just drain the fluid out of the system into a clean container, and when you refill it add some distilled water.

See if you can find the Swiftech used to save $$$. Their waterblocks aren't that good. If you have the rad/pump assembly (the pump is pretty strong but you want to run it at low speed because it whines) you can use several blocks in series. EK EVO is a decent block for 2011 sockets.

If you have the room you can also run a pair of H110s, etc.

Do you plan on overlocking or want a quiet system?

The Apogee XL block isn't the greatest performer in a full custom system, but it's actually not that bad at the low flow rates you'll see in the H320. I'd be tempted to just get another one so everything matches since they look pretty cool anyway. I'd be wary of getting a used cooler without hearing it in person first. As you said the pumps can whine (especially the ones mounted to the water block), and you wouldn't want to get stuck with someone offloading a noisier one.

 

[Rubycon]

The MCP pump (Laing internals) is actually pretty decent.
The lower flows are due to the very high backpressure afforded by the Swiftech blocks.
The milled pattern of the coldplate is very efficient at catching FOD in your coolant as well so be sure to screen things out which is important on new setups (factory fresh radiators, for example, often fill a system with FOD from soldering, flux, etc.)

 

[guskline]

Socio, I have the EK Supremacy EVO waterblock for my 5960x and the EK Supremacy MX block for my 4790k BOTH blocks are excellent. the MX is slightly less expensive and is slightly less efficient but you can't go wrong with either on.

I have 2 D5 pumps in series in a XSPC Bay res (I know it's crazy overkill). I found a Swiftech MCP 35X pump with tube res for @$65 on ebay and it has been great working with my 4790k. I use a MO RA3-420 external rad for it.

For 2 cpus on 2011 socket a single thicker 360 rad with good fans should handle the heat well.

 

[guskline]

Socio, what case are you going to use?

 

[Rubycon]

Socio, I have the EK Supremacy EVO waterblock for my 5960x and the EK Supremacy MX block for my 4790k BOTH blocks are excellent. the MX is slightly less expensive and is slightly less efficient but you can't go wrong with either on.

I have 2 D5 pumps in series in a XSPC Bay res (I know it's crazy overkill). I found a Swiftech MCP 35X pump with tube res for @$65 on ebay and it has been great working with my 4790k. I use a MO RA3-420 external rad for it.

For 2 cpus on 2011 socket a single thicker 360 rad with good fans should handle the heat well.

What block orientation did you go with on your 5960X? Did you use the stock jet plate or change it out with one of the other included ones?

 

[guskline]

Rubycon, I using the Asus Rampage V Extreme MB. The cpu block sits at a 90 degree angle to the orientation of the ram sticks with the inlet to the rear of the case and the outlet (to the gpu block) to the front. If my memory serves me correctly, I followed the EK directions for the best plate for the 2011(3) socket. I think it comes stock with the 2011 socket plate so I'm pretty sure I changed it for the recommended 2011(3) plate.

I have tremendous cooling capacity with 3 XSPC RX480 ver3 rads with Gentle Typhon AP15 fans pushing in cool air (they are rated at 1820 rpm max but I run them slower via a NZXT 6 channel fan controller (2 fans per channel). I also have an XSPC temp probe in the loop and have an external thermometer to measure ambient temps.

My 5960c @4.4Ghz vcore 1.33 at full stress load under AIDA 64 never has a core MAX over 72C (2 hottest cores show max temp spikes as high as 72 while most are in the 60s) and most average in the low 60s under full load.

I have it all house in a Thermaltake Core X9 case which is simply HUGE!

 

[MrTeal]

The MCP pump (Laing internals) is actually pretty decent.
The lower flows are due to the very high backpressure afforded by the Swiftech blocks.
The milled pattern of the coldplate is very efficient at catching FOD in your coolant as well so be sure to screen things out which is important on new setups (factory fresh radiators, for example, often fill a system with FOD from soldering, flux, etc.)

The MCP30X used in the Swiftech AOI units aren't Laing designs. The MCP35X is a Laing DDC and the 655 is a D5, but the MCP30 (and 50X) are Swiftech's own design. I don't have much experience with the new ones, but they're supposed to be better than the early models mounted on the waterblock. I've RMAed over a dozen of the early H220s due to pump issues.

In my experience, I haven't seen any rad debris in the Swiftech AOIs, but you do probably need to flush them after 6 months to a year to clear out plasticizer bits. That's hardly confined to the Swiftech blocks though.

I'd be interested to see some tests on the new unit like Martin did on the original H220. The old H220 had issues with backpressure on the pump/block combo (and its swivel fittings), and a large restriction on the radiator. The original H220's rad had ~1.251.05psi drop @ the 0.6GPM flowrate compared to ~0.25PSI in Swiftech's similar MCR320-QP, but the new Apogee XL and rad/pump combo look a lot lower restriction. The Apogee XL showed ~0.8PSI of drop @ 0.6GPM vs ~0.4PSI for something like the the EK Supremecy EVO in XtremeRigs testing, so while you'd get better performance with the EVOs, I'm not sure it'd be worth replacing both blocks. For reference, the old pump/block measured 2.2PSI at 0.6GPM. Just adding keeping the Apogee XL and adding another block is an option of course, but not nearly as pretty a one.

 

[Rubycon]

The MCP30X used in the Swiftech AOI units aren't Laing designs. The MCP35X is a Laing DDC and the 655 is a D5, but the MCP30 (and 50X) are Swiftech's own design. I don't have much experience with the new ones, but they're supposed to be better than the early models mounted on the waterblock. I've RMAed over a dozen of the early H220s due to pump issues.

In my experience, I haven't seen any rad debris in the Swiftech AOIs, but you do probably need to flush them after 6 months to a year to clear out plasticizer bits. That's hardly confined to the Swiftech blocks though.

I'd be interested to see some tests on the new unit like Martin did on the original H220. The old H220 had issues with backpressure on the pump/block combo (and its swivel fittings), and a large restriction on the radiator. The original H220's rad had ~1.251.05psi drop @ the 0.6GPM flowrate compared to ~0.25PSI in Swiftech's similar MCR320-QP, but the new Apogee XL and rad/pump combo look a lot lower restriction. The Apogee XL showed ~0.8PSI of drop @ 0.6GPM vs ~0.4PSI for something like the the EK Supremecy EVO in XtremeRigs testing, so while you'd get better performance with the EVOs, I'm not sure it'd be worth replacing both blocks. For reference, the old pump/block measured 2.2PSI at 0.6GPM. Just adding keeping the Apogee XL and adding another block is an option of course, but not nearly as pretty a one.

I was referring to the older MCP35X. The newer stuff I'm not sure about.
My parts broker won't even touch anything from Swiftech now so I cannot say much for their (current) stuff.

Expandable AIO is kind of an oxymoron as none really have much more capacity than a single CPU or perhaps CPU/GPU running stock. Coolant temps escalate quickly in these designs. There's simply not enough radiator. Not sure where they come up with the wattage ratings on these things. I guess they feel it's ok to have coolant temps of 40C! D:

 

[Socio]

Socio, what case are you going to use?

I have the MountianMods Pinnacle 24 case.

 

[MrTeal]

I was referring to the older MCP35X. The newer stuff I'm not sure about.
My parts broker won't even touch anything from Swiftech now so I cannot say much for their (current) stuff.

Expandable AIO is kind of an oxymoron as none really have much more capacity than a single CPU or perhaps CPU/GPU running stock. Coolant temps escalate quickly in these designs. There's simply not enough radiator. Not sure where they come up with the wattage ratings on these things. I guess they feel it's ok to have coolant temps of 40C! D:

It's only water cooling enthusiasts that demand coolant temps less than 10C over ambient with 800RPM fans. That's why a 295x2 can dissipate over 500W from a single 120mm radiator. Two CPUs (even HSW-E ones) would be fine with a triple rad AOI unless they're massively overclocked. You'd still have 50% more rad than two H60s and more flowrate as well.

 

[Socio]

See if you can find the Swiftech used to save $$$. Their waterblocks aren't that good. If you have the rad/pump assembly (the pump is pretty strong but you want to run it at low speed because it whines) you can use several blocks in series. EK EVO is a decent block for 2011 sockets.

If you have the room you can also run a pair of H110s, etc.

Do you plan on overlocking or want a quiet system?

A quiet and cooler system, my thinking is I will get much better airflow and cooler case temps with air passing over blocks rather than being hampered by huge heatsinks.

Not to mention the radiating heat from the heat sinks.

I will be using an ASUS Z10PE-WS motherboard and the ram sits next to the cpus without heatsinks in the way that ram should also run cooler.

 

[MrTeal]

I have the MountianMods Pinnacle 24 case.

You actually have room for two 360mm rads if you want to go that route. You could either go with a couple big AOIs if you want to go that route, or if you want to spend the extra cash and get your feet wet, just install a full water setup.

 

[Socio]

You actually have room for two 360mm rads if you want to go that route. You could either go with a couple big AOIs if you want to go that route, or if you want to spend the extra cash and get your feet wet, just install a full water setup.

I am not ready to go that far yet, will start with the CPU's then perhaps add the tower pedestal and house one or two more 360s for video cards etc... in it.