360 controller takes on KB/M in CS:S showdown

gorcorps

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This is mostly just a story but w/ some Qs:
I was on IRC today, talking to somebody when the issue of gamepad vs. kb/m arose. This kid swears up and down that his 360 controller is better for shooters than my keyboard and mouse. I tell him that lots of people are used to the controller, but I prefer my kb/m. He tells me he'd be able to wipe the floor with me and it's not just a preference, but that gamepads are just better period.

Well I tell him to plug his friggin controller into his PC and prove it. Well apparently he's not a PC gamer at all. I told him I'd take him on at CS:S, and he agreed. He'll be getting the game soon, solely to attempt to prove that the gamepad is better than kb/m. He says 'just give me a week to know the maps man'.

So I've been playing this game for 2 years now, but didn't have the heart to tell him. He's expecting to kick my ass after 1-2 weeks of playing with a gamepad vs. my 2 years of experience w/ a fully customized G5. Who would just throw $30 away like this to prove a point, and lose?

Does the 360 controller even work with CS:S properly? I know it has drivers that work fine but I'm not sure how well it plays with certain games. Doesn't matter... I'm pretty excited for this.
 

Smartazz

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Well good luck, somebody thinks they could take me in Halo 2 for PC on a X360 controller. I hope you destroy this kid.
 

gorcorps

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Originally posted by: Smartazz
Well good luck, somebody thinks they could take me in Halo 2 for PC on a X360 controller. I hope you destroy this kid.

I'm pretty sure I will. I hadn't played in a while so I got on the other day... well I ended up getting booted from 2 servers under suspicion of using an aim hack. I don't think he has a chance :)
 

Smartazz

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Smartazz
Well good luck, somebody thinks they could take me in Halo 2 for PC on a X360 controller. I hope you destroy this kid.

I'm pretty sure I will. I hadn't played in a while so I got on the other day... well I ended up getting booted from 2 servers under suspicion of using an aim hack. I don't think he has a chance :)

lmao, that reminds me of FPS Doug from PurePwnage. So I guess what he said was true in CSS. Do you know if that's the case for Battlefield 2 though?
 

gorcorps

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Originally posted by: Smartazz
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Smartazz
Well good luck, somebody thinks they could take me in Halo 2 for PC on a X360 controller. I hope you destroy this kid.

I'm pretty sure I will. I hadn't played in a while so I got on the other day... well I ended up getting booted from 2 servers under suspicion of using an aim hack. I don't think he has a chance :)

lmao, that reminds me of FPS Doug from PurePwnage. So I guess what he said was true in CSS. Do you know if that's the case for Battlefield 2 though?

Admins are generally not that strict on BF2 from what I've seen. Since it's such a team oriented game it's really hard to tell if somebody's doing a little 'too' well themselves, and it's not just the better team. Ya know?
 

Smartazz

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Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Smartazz
Originally posted by: gorcorps
Originally posted by: Smartazz
Well good luck, somebody thinks they could take me in Halo 2 for PC on a X360 controller. I hope you destroy this kid.

I'm pretty sure I will. I hadn't played in a while so I got on the other day... well I ended up getting booted from 2 servers under suspicion of using an aim hack. I don't think he has a chance :)

lmao, that reminds me of FPS Doug from PurePwnage. So I guess what he said was true in CSS. Do you know if that's the case for Battlefield 2 though?

Admins are generally not that strict on BF2 from what I've seen. Since it's such a team oriented game it's really hard to tell if somebody's doing a little 'too' well themselves, and it's not just the better team. Ya know?

Well when someone cheats in BF2 it's so obvious. I've seen people go 88-0 as infantry, and that looks a little suspicious.
 

shortylickens

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This will make me sound like an awesome nerd, but:

REGULAR UPDATES PLEASE!

I wanna know what happens, heck, if I'm not at work I might even like to watch.
Just give me a couple hours to let Steam download all the updates I've been putting off.
 

bunnyfubbles

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He must be used to the autoaim helpers that are thrown into console FPSers, he's not going to get that here unless he's using his time to find cheats :p

On the flip side it would be funny if he was completely f***ing with you and is lying out the ass. It really would be great if he was some awesome CSS player and it just making up this story about the gamepad just to kick your ass and make you feel really awful because you'd think you just got owned by a gamepad.

Although I hope its real and you do kick his ass, I also know way too many people who don't know how inferior game controllers are to the mouse.
 

gorcorps

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
This will make me sound like an awesome nerd, but:

REGULAR UPDATES PLEASE!

I wanna know what happens, heck, if I'm not at work I might even like to watch.
Just give me a couple hours to let Steam download all the updates I've been putting off.

lol no worries. Nothing will happen for a few weeks as he has some basketball camp and other things. So he'll get the game after that, learn the maps, and then we'll see what happens. If we decide a time exactly I'll post it here so some can spectate ;) So start updating, as you have plenty of time
 

tigersty1e

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One on one would be close. If there were 16 controllers going against 16 KB/M it would be no contest (assuming same skill). The KB/M will kill the controllers.

One on one is different. He'll know the general area you're coming from and can ready the gamepad. Will he show you proof that he's using a gamepad?
 

gorcorps

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We haven't worked out a system or anything like that... I think he's a gung-ho 360 fanboy from talking to him so I have no doubt he truly thinks he can be me. Even if he 'cheated' and used a kb/m he'd probably still get ganked.
 

natto fire

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LOL, this should be good. Like you said, even if he does use kb/m your extra experience will trump that. Just remember to play on a VAC server in case he wants to go a step further and use a hack. CS:S is only $20 now, BTW.
 

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Definitely provide updates. I would love to spectate this! :D

Good luck (not that you'll need it)

KT
 

potato28

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Hey gorcorps, what do you use for audio? Maybe you should invest in some headphones ...:D ;)
 

DarkManX4lf

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I love playing with my gamepad more than a keyboard/mouse, but seriously there is no way that a person who uses a gamepad will beat a person who uses a keyboard/mouse...especially in fps games...maybe other genre's...but not fps.
 

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Man, I played the Lost Planet demo on Xbox at BestBuy yesterday. How the hell can anyone play an FPS with that controller? I can't imagine how anyone can even come close to beating a KB/M player. It is so cumbersome and the ability to react quickly is greatly reduced IMO.

Granted, this is really only one of very few FPS games I have tried on a console, and after a lot of practice someone might be able to get decent with a controller, but wow, awkward does not even begin to describe how it felt for me.

I hope you destroy this guy! :D

KT


 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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I hate watching people play FPSs on consoles. The damn cross hairs goes up, then over, then bang. Oh for christ sake... I'm sure there are better players at it, and they aren't that bad, but how the hell do they think they can compare to a mouse!
 

Ika

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It's really funny watching people say that game controllers are better than KB/M, especially WHILE they're playing on a console. I love it. If I ever got an XB360 I would definitely have to get that KB/M adapter.

That said... how are you going to do 1v1 in CS:S? All the default maps are too big... maybe you could do iceworld, or a custom aim_ map.
 

potato28

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Originally posted by: Aflac
It's really funny watching people say that game controllers are better than KB/M, especially WHILE they're playing on a console. I love it. If I ever got an XB360 I would definitely have to get that KB/M adapter.

That said... how are you going to do 1v1 in CS:S? All the default maps are too big... maybe you could do iceworld, or a custom aim_ map.

cs_office and de_dust are good 1v1 maps, lots of hiding spots and lots of open area's.