3570k 105c Temperature too high?

MustangSVT

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Finally got around to setup the IB and testing things.

I am using 4.5ghz @ 1.265 vcore and it is hitting 105 max but stable so far with linx and some games.

Is this temperature too high?

I am using the good old Gemin II for cooling.
(had to hammer it to fit an itx board but thats another thread ;))
 

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I think Tjunction max is 105 Celsius for that chip, I'd try to bring the temps down, since it throttles (shuts down?) once you exceed that.
 
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brandon888

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Get better cooler .. or get corsair H60 at least ..... 105 is too high and will damage your chip for sure !
 

MustangSVT

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i guess ill just run it at 44x for now.

I am not brave enough to de lid it just yet. but 105 was with linx. in games it barely gets to 70s
 

Idontcare

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Finally got around to setup the IB and testing things.

I am using 4.5ghz @ 1.265 vcore and it is hitting 105 max but stable so far with linx and some games.

Is this temperature too high?

I am using the good old Gemin II for cooling.
(had to hammer it to fit an itx board but thats another thread ;))

That sounds about right for a stock CPU TIM type situation combined with that cooler.

For reference, my 3770k ran 4.5GHz @ 82°C with an NH-D14 (NT-H1 TIM) and 78°C with an H100 (NT-H1 TIM).

Because the peak temps were much lower than yours, the Vcc needed for stable operation was also lower, coming in at 1.182V.

For comparison, before delidding, if I bumped up my voltage to 1.296V (comparable to yours) then I could hit 4.7GHz LinX stable while the temperatures peaked right around 100°C.

Running at TJmax means your chip is throttling. It doesn't get any higher than 105°C. Running at 104°C means no throttle, hitting 105°C means throttling is happening.

Throttling is not bad for your chip, that is why TJMax is 105°C instead of 100°C or 80°C...your chip was designed to operate at temperature up to TJmax for its intended lifespan.

The reason we try to reduce operating temperatures is so we can reduce power-consumption (static leakage) and so we can reduce the voltage needed for stable OC'ing.

TemperatureversusPowerConsumption3770kat46GHz.png


^ reducing temperature lowers the power consumption (purple to the green line) even if we leave the voltage the same.

But by lowering the temperature we also lower the required voltage for the CPU to be stable. Lowering that voltage (dark green line below) while maintaining stability results in even lower temperatures (red line in both graphs).

TemperatureversusMinVccandPowerConsumption3770kat46GHz.png


Lowering your power-consumption lowers your electricity bill.

If you pay 11.5 cents per KWHr, lowering your power consumption by 1W saves you $1 over the course of a year.

If you invest upfront in buying a decent HSF you can actually recoup your investment in the span of a year or two if you reduce your temperatures and optimize your voltage, saving 20W or 30W in the process (and $20 or $30 over the course of the year, depending on how loaded you keep your rig and how much you actually pay per KWHr).
 

tweakboy

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Wow 105c. See that is the thing, when you do normal CPU stuff like you said your temp is 70c or gaming your temp is 70c. That is a really nice temp for that chip OCed.

Keep it there and please don't run Linx again, cuz if CPU goes to 105c again its gonna blow up. Just kidding actually CPUs die hard. gl
 

Ferzerp

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cuz if CPU goes to 105c again its gonna blow up

May I ask why you just make things up, and assume they're fact? It will reduce the lifespan (but it's still going to work for years) and throttle it, but it's not going to damage the processor.

You really shouldn't spread so much fabricated information, and you do it a lot.