3500 or 3200 i might be over clocking

[twitchee2]

which would b best. i might OC a little bit but it wont be very much i will be video editing and playing cs doom3 and hl2. do they both have 10x multiplyer? i

specs
a8n-sli
3500 or 3200 winchester
6600gt (dual 6800gts i a year or so)
muskin or cosair value ram 2x512
enermax wisper 2.0 sli ready 535w psu
x-dreamer case
5 case fans
dvd-rom cd-rw drive 3rd dvd -rw at a later date.

which would be better 3500 or 3200 either one is in buget

 

[Jassi]

If you can afford a 3500 & a 6800GT (instead if 6600), why not?

 

[twitchee2]

i cant afford the 6800 yet im goin into delt with my parnets by about 700 witht this new mechine and payin it off over the summer i get bouit a 1000 over summer and i have to fix wut a waverrunner. so as of now a 6800 is outa the question untill it get down to around $200-$250 and when ever that is i will get 2 of them.

 

[Chosonman]

Go 3200 + 6800 GT if you can and dump the SLI. It's a waste of money.


Read this thread
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=1504287&enterthread=y

 

[twitchee2]

i just dont have the money for the 6800gt right now im coming for 32mb intgrated graphics in cs. anything is going to be a huge improvement. i was just wondering which is better for OCingthe 3200 or 3500 do they both have 10x multiplyer?

 

[Chosonman]

If you don't get the SLI and get the 3200 instead of the 3500 that's more than enough to get a 6800GT over a 6600GT

And you won't be able to overclock the 3500 much higher than it aready is compaired to the 3200 which will overclock to 3500 and above. So after overclock you'll be very close to the same speed as an overclocked 3500

 

[ts3433]

Delt? You mean debt?

The 3200 has a 10 multiplier, the 3500 has an 11 multiplier.

I have some other comments for the rest of your rig:

If you don't mind the conservative styling (though you can throw a cold cathode into the top and shine it through the "Antec" holes), the Antec Sonata's a much better value for a case and PSU, and even with just one 120mm case fan it cools effectively (maybe not quite as well as 5 80mm fans, depending on how they're arranged, but certainly much quieter than with 5 fans). The PSU will be more than sufficient for this rig, and probably for the future if you follow my next recommendation:

If you don't plan to upgrade from the 6600GT for at least a year, by then you'll probably be able to get a single card that will be as good or better than SLIed 6800GTs. This would allow you to save money on the motherboard now. You could even just build a S754 system (2800 + Chaintech VNF3-250 = $190) right now (possibly even with a 6800), though it may not be as upgradeable (however, PCIe should come to it sooner or later) as a 939 AGP (you only swap the board when you go PCIe, instead of board + CPU).

 

[twitchee2]

right now i dont see the point in payin 450-500 on a vid card that will be 200 in 6-8 months. i just wondering about which cpu is better for OCIng the 3200 or 3500 winchester

 

[Ike0069]

The 3200 should OC to nearly if not the same as the 3500+ due to thermal limitations. There are several people on this board that have their 1.8 GHZ 3000+ running at >2.5 GHz
That's faster than the FX series, although you still will have the 512K L2 cache.

 

[twitchee2]

so the 3200 is better for OCing? can the 3500 do the same and get even higher? Ive never OCed befroe so if i do any it wont be very much.

 

[Chosonman]

The 6800 GT likely won't be 200 in 6-8 months. Considering how long the 9800 Pro has been around and is still selling for close to $250.00 I wouldn't hold my breath. But 450-500 is waaaayyy too much for a 6800GT right now... I would pay $370 tops for one.

And both the 3500 and 3200 will clock to near the same levels. Result will vary by individual systems and components.

 

[twitchee2]

If you don't plan to upgrade from the 6600GT for at least a year, by then you'll probably be able to get a single card that will be as good or better than SLIed 6800GTs.

true but if 2 of then can preform the same as a new cards and ffor cheaper i will go with the dual im not a extramly havey gamer i want lots of room for expantion im goin to get the a8n-sli for maonarch is it $181 shipped

 

[twitchee2]

which cpu would be easyest to oc?

 

[Chosonman]

Originally posted by: twitchee2
If you don't plan to upgrade from the 6600GT for at least a year, by then you'll probably be able to get a single card that will be as good or better than SLIed 6800GTs.

true but if 2 of then can preform the same as a new cards and ffor cheaper i will go with the dual im not a extramly havey gamer i want lots of room for expantion im goin to get the a8n-sli for maonarch is it $181 shipped

You can't expand that computer forever. The shelf life for a computer is about 2-3 years even after you upgrade the parts. My philosophy is build the best you can now and build a new one later. Parts will become cheaper by the time you need another computer you can use the money you would have used on modifications and just build a brand new state of the art system.

There is no easy. There is only do or don't. Both will overclock the excact same way.

 

[twitchee2]

ok yea that wut i was thinking...go as big as buget alows. so im going to go with the 3500

 

[Chosonman]

Originally posted by: twitchee2
ok yea that wut i was thinking...go as big as buget alows. so im going to go with the 3500

we recommend the 3200

 

[twitchee2]

i need this comp to last thought college and im a sophmore right now so i need a good upgradable comp now

 

[ts3433]

Again, I'm going to have to disagree with the philosophy of Chosonman a bit. It's not unreasonable to make small upgrades like getting a new graphics card or more RAM, sometimes a new CPU (if that's forecast to be possible, which it is with dual-core 939s, but I wouldn't foresee an upgrade being necessary from a Winchester @ 2.8--newer ones, like Week 48s, can do this--for a while anyway), while planning your system to accommodate that for a while. It makes a little more financial sense to upgrade parts at a time, because you're selling older parts sooner, and thus you'll generally get more money from them.

 

[twitchee2]

i agree with you there but if i upgrade cpu i will probly be in 2 years so then i will get a dualcore cpu (graphics in a year) so because iwont be upgrading for awhiel ill get the 3500

 

[ts3433]

Eh... I'd still get the 3200 as well, because it'll overclock the same and the stock performance difference is small (honestly, do you think you'll really notice it and feel it in your usage of the system?), but go with the 3500 if you want.

 

[Chosonman]

Computer for college
AMD 3200 Winchester overclocked to 3500+ Speeds
Nforce 4 Motherboard w/ PCI-e, dual channel RAM, SATA II
1 GIG Value RAM
6800GT or 6600GT


The difference between the 3500 and 3200 is less than a blink of the eye. You won't notice a thing. You'll notice a MUCH bigger difference when using a 6600GT vs a 6800GT

 

[twitchee2]

well whcih will last longer? in keepin up with everything for 2 years?

 

[Chosonman]

Originally posted by: twitchee2
well whcih will last longer? in keepin up with everything for 2 years?

The above system should last you at least 2 years if not more with only an upgrade in video card if you need to, but with a 6800GT you should be safe for a while.

 

[twitchee2]

ok so i should go with the 3200 and save #60 or so

 

[ts3433]

Originally posted by: Chosonman
The difference between the 3500 and 3200 is less than a blink of the eye. You won't notice a thing. You'll notice a MUCH bigger difference when using a 6600GT vs a 6800GT

If you run at resolutions above 1280x1024 on a typical high-details setting for a recent game, or 1600x1200 for a typical medium-details setting, that's true. Otherwise, it's probably worth it to get the 6600GT now and upgrade it later on when a bigger boost in performance is needed.