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Markfw

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PCIE 3.0 x16 Riser cables @ 200mm are about $25. @300mm $50. @600mm $65.
Fair enough.
If you could do a layout with 200mm cables, that'd only be about $200 more added on.


That and the I/O is literally cut in half from what you should be getting making the processor completely unbalanced.
I'd have to pay double what I paid for my 1950x while sitting with the same I/O. This is where I establish a no-go zone. The diminishing returns are too pronounced. It's funny because I got railed for this when I applied it to intel vs amd. However, clearly I am without bias as I can apply it to AMD's own processor line. 1950x/2950x is peak balance on this particular AMD HEDT platform in my opinion.

128GB of RAM limit is a joke at with such a core count when the EPYC processor of this core count supports a Terabyte of RAM with 16 dimm slots. 128 PCIE lanes vs 64 PCIE lanes.

That being said, I guess this is interesting because its a new architecture to consider. You have 2 dies w/ no direct I/O being fed by infinity fabric. You get double the amount of cores but no increase in I/O. I guess this will make sense to someone. I can't help but recognize though that the EPYC is $400 more and the mobo $200 more. If you're going to spend $1800 on a processor anyway... But then again you get higher clocks on RAM/Processor if you go with threadripper vs Eypc. So, if you don't care about I/O scaling much or a terabyte of ram capacity and you care more for ram/cpuclocks then this is your processor...

$1800 is nothing to sneeze at. I await 7nm
By getting the 2990WX, I am taking a chance on the IO, 64 gig is plenty for what I do for memory. I know I can use all the cores, but what I don't know is what will be gimped. Thats why I am getting it, to tell you all what I find, and in my builders thread, I hope people suggest benchmarks that I can actually run to figure all of this out.
 

ub4ty

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With current prices if you can afford 1TB of dram, CPU price for EPYC is no big deal at all :)
Indeed.. 2x64GB modules runs about $800.
I guess this is the distinguishing characteristic between EPYC vs Threadripper :
Yeah, it has more I/O and DIMM slots but it's really a completely different realm of cost to fully utilize it on EPYC vs threadripper.
So, it seems there's a case for the 32 core threadripper especially as Mark states that he's just fine w/ the I/O it provides and RAM maximum.
Plus, on threadripper you get far faster core clocks and far faster RAM.

Mark, why not wait to see what anandtech provides on a review? I'll be interested in their scientific/engineering software #'s. I'll let you know if I don't see a particular benchmark there and will send you over a link to try get the resulting #'s.
 

Markfw

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Indeed.. 2x64GB modules runs about $800.
I guess this is the distinguishing characteristic between EPYC vs Threadripper :
Yeah, it has more I/O and DIMM slots but it's really a completely different realm of cost to fully utilize it on EPYC vs threadripper.
So, it seems there's a case for the 32 core threadripper especially as Mark states that he's just fine w/ the I/O it provides and RAM maximum.
Plus, on threadripper you get far faster core clocks and far faster RAM.

Mark, why not wait to see what anandtech provides on a review? I'll be interested in their scientific/engineering software #'s. I'll let you know if I don't see a particular benchmark there and will send you over a link to try get the resulting #'s.
My priority is actually all DC, BOINC mostly, since I have 1080TI cards for F@H.. I think I lost my battle with cancer, and will know in 4 weeks. So for me, thats it.

BUT, I want to run benchmarks of different things, and provide feedback for others on how it does with different software. Looks like I will have to be happy with stock until new motherboards and coolers become available.
 

ub4ty

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My priority is actually all DC, BOINC mostly, since I have 1080TI cards for F@H.. I think I lost my battle with cancer, and will know in 4 weeks. So for me, thats it.

BUT, I want to run benchmarks of different things, and provide feedback for others on how it does with different software. Looks like I will have to be happy with stock until new motherboards and coolers become available.
> Hugs Mark deeply
> Sends his best and most positive wishes for his results in the weeks ahead
> Thinks of the joy unpacking and running that 32 core beast will bring

I will try to form a list of benchmarks for you Mark for this 32 core monster and I thank you sincerely for the information you have provided throughout all the TR threads.. The original 1950x thread was :) and provided me w/ lots of great feels as I engaged in and began running my build. I'd no doubt love a 32 core if I had the $$ for it but that is way out of my ball pack. So, I will have to live vicariously through you. I look forward to and am monitoring the build thread you created. Lots of pics please as always :D. Make sure to do a series involving a sloooowww unboxing :cool:
 

Markfw

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> Hugs Mark deeply
> Sends his best and most positive wishes for his results in the weeks ahead
> Thinks of the joy unpacking and running that 32 core beast will bring

I will try to form a list of benchmarks for you Mark for this 32 core monster and I thank you sincerely for the information you have provided throughout all the TR threads.. The original 1950x thread was :) and provided me w/ lots of great feels as I engaged in and began running my build. I'd no doubt love a 32 core if I had the $$ for it but that is way out of my ball pack. So, I will have to live vicariously through you. I look forward to and am monitoring the build thread you created. Lots of pics please as always :D. Make sure to do a series involving a sloooowww unboxing :cool:
I guess I have to get busy, parts already showing up, but unboxed already
 

ub4ty

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I guess I have to get busy, parts already showing up, but unboxed already
Please don't do so w/ 2990wx, I need to live through you Mark ...
 

wahdangun

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PCIE 3.0 x16 Riser cables @ 200mm are about $25. @300mm $50. @600mm $65.
Fair enough.
If you could do a layout with 200mm cables, that'd only be about $200 more added on.


That and the I/O is literally cut in half from what you should be getting making the processor completely unbalanced.
I'd have to pay double what I paid for my 1950x while sitting with the same I/O. This is where I establish a no-go zone. The diminishing returns are too pronounced. It's funny because I got railed for this when I applied it to intel vs amd. However, clearly I am without bias as I can apply it to AMD's own processor line. 1950x/2950x is peak balance on this particular AMD HEDT platform in my opinion.

128GB of RAM limit is a joke at with such a core count when the EPYC processor of this core count supports a Terabyte of RAM with 16 dimm slots. 128 PCIE lanes vs 64 PCIE lanes.

That being said, I guess this is interesting because its a new architecture to consider. You have 2 dies w/ no direct I/O being fed by infinity fabric. You get double the amount of cores but no increase in I/O. I guess this will make sense to someone. I can't help but recognize though that the EPYC is $400 more and the mobo $200 more. If you're going to spend $1800 on a processor anyway... But then again you get higher clocks on RAM/Processor if you go with threadripper vs Eypc. So, if you don't care about I/O scaling much or a terabyte of ram capacity and you care more for ram/cpuclocks then this is your processor...

$1800 is nothing to sneeze at. I await 7nm

Actually, you need buffered ram, to break 128 GB, and currently TR platform not yet support it.
 

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