3200+ Last Athlon XP?

[Corsairpro]

As a consumer, I find it absurd that AMD would release this 3200+ and stick to their September release of the Athlon 64. This really sucks. I personally always buy a cpu 2/3 of the way up the ladder. Thats where the best performance/price combo is IMHO. Now that nothing new is going to be released, the only thing to drive AMD prices down is intel releasing higher performing parts. (3.2GHz 800FSB)

From AMD's point of view, this could potentially be a smart move. Their Opteron server processor line kicks the Xeon DP's behind as well as the Itanium 2's. Because server procs generally have a higher profit margin, AMD can live off those revenues while clearing out their stock of TBred based Athlons. They can just rebadge those not so stable 3200+ to like 2400s or what not and they'll sell like hot cakes cuz they overclock well.

Summary:

From consumer point of view, lower prices doesn't make up for lack of new products.

From AMD's point of view, Opteron will feed us til Athlon 64 arrives en mass.

 

[mosco]

I thought they said the XP was near the end of its life, meaning there would only be a couple more new ones.

 

[pspada]

So you're saying it's time for a road trip to AMD's headquarters to kick some corporate a$$?

 

[Whitedog]

Well, if AMD doesn't release any new chips until September then Intel is not going to either. Why would they need to? the 3200+ doens't even come close to the P4's top chips! Yea, they'll prolly release a 3.2, but that'll be it until AMD can pull something better out of their hat.

Because server procs generally have a higher profit margin, AMD can live off those revenues while clearing out their stock of TBred based Athlons.

Uh... Yea, right. I don't think the "small" market share AMD has (especially in the server market) is going to feed them man. Get real.

Basically AMD is up against the wall. I'm Sure they don't like it... It's plain as day that the P4 is going Strong and Still has plenty of growing room. AMD is out of bullets... They started shooting blanks with the 3200+. They need to get reloaded quickly or they're going to watch the market shares they worked so hard to gain slip away under their feet.

Bah! I don't give a crap as long as Someone is making affordable CPU's!

 

[Darkhawk28]

If the Athlon XP is nearing the end of it's life, then I guess I'll forget about order a Barton 2500+, new Nforce2 Ultra 400 MB and 2x256MB PC3200 RAM.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but it seems like getting a 865PE Intel MB and chip may be a more viable option at this time, unless the Prescotts are on a completely new platform. If so, then I'm really SOL, so to speak. I guess I'll put my wallet away for a few more months until the Athlon64 or the Prescotts come out.

 

[JeremiahTheGreat]

i think this will be the last AthlonXPs.. they don't seem to have much (if any) kick left in them.

I'm not going to bother upgrading my cpu, because the most stressful games require VIDEO - and thats where all my cash is going to go

 

[Darkhawk28]

This is upsetting for me, because I don't have a clear-cut upgrade path from my current system.

Abit KT7A
T-Bird 1.4
384MB PC133
Geforce3 64MB

I'll have to replace the MB, CPU and RAM no matter what, but don't want to do that knowing that if I get a Barton 2500+, that in 6mos to a year from now (or less), I'll have to replace the three of them again, because the next signicant upgrade from there will be another new platform.

Now I could be wrong. How long would an Abit NF7-S v2.0 (Ultra 400), Barton 2500+ and 2x256MB PC3200 (is 3200 neccessary?) be viable? If it can be viable for about 1-1/2 years with the games coming out, then I'll upgrade, but if not. /cry

 

[Jeff7181]

I never intend on keeping my hardware for more than 6-8 months anyway. So once I get my new Ti4200 with 3.3 ns RAM and a Raptor hard drive... I'm done till this fall when the Athlon 64's are out and the core has some time to mature, and maybe go through a revision... and by next winter I'll be in the market for a Athlon 64 based system and a new video card, maybe based on nVidia's upcoming NV40 core.

 

[calvink]

Their best move at this point would be to skip the 3400+ and release a 3500+ (w/ heat spreader) by increasing the mulitplier by 1 full jump. So that in terms of performance, they can compete with Intel and regain consumer confidence in their rating system. AMD needs to mature their Barton process quicker and reach 12*200=2400Mhz by mid-late July and have it in production by late July to early August. At 3500+ this is 7 times their original Athlon Processor at 500Mhz. An incredible feat for a processor line.

 

[bgeh]

apparently, the 3400+ will be the last Athlon XP before it gets replaced by the Athlon 64

 

[Zarick]

This is one of the big things thats killing me about amd.
They are putting all their eggs into the hammer basket right now. Thats a huge mistake.
Now people like me don't think the cheap option of amd is a good idea, because youll have to throw in a whole new platform next year.

However, if you buy a p4 865,875 board then youll be able to run the first generation prescotts. This gives you several years of use out of a new board now. At this point you either need to wait for the hammer or get an 865/875.

 

[bgeh]

Originally posted by: Zarick
This is one of the big things thats killing me about amd.
They are putting all their eggs into the hammer basket right now. Thats a huge mistake.
Now people like me don't think the cheap option of amd is a good idea, because youll have to throw in a whole new platform next year.

However, if you buy a p4 865,875 board then youll be able to run the first generation prescotts. This gives you several years of use out of a new board now. At this point you either need to wait for the hammer or get an 865/875.

no, Intel will change to Socket T around May-July 2004
you can't say that changing the platform is a bad idea, because the chip itself is a next generation chip from the existing one. K8 on K7.
even intel changed their platform when they changed from the P3 to P4.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Based on my results with the 2500+ I just bought I'd say adding a couple more bumps should be easy.

 

[Zarick]

Originally posted by: bgeh

Originally posted by: Zarick
This is one of the big things thats killing me about amd.
They are putting all their eggs into the hammer basket right now. Thats a huge mistake.
Now people like me don't think the cheap option of amd is a good idea, because youll have to throw in a whole new platform next year.

However, if you buy a p4 865,875 board then youll be able to run the first generation prescotts. This gives you several years of use out of a new board now. At this point you either need to wait for the hammer or get an 865/875.

no, Intel will change to Socket T around May-July 2004
you can't say that changing the platform is a bad idea, because the chip itself is a next generation chip from the existing one. K8 on K7.
even intel changed their platform when they changed from the P3 to P4.

Yes but intel has also stated that the prescotts will in the beginning support both the old form factor and the new. Where the hammer will not.