3200+ 64 Athlon advice please

[Bteck]

I have a head scrcher for me any way I have just bought a Athlon 64 3200+ and I have a choise between a clowhamer or the winchester the Clawhamer is 1G Cash and the new Winchester is 512 Cash
but the Winchester that is 1/2 the cash has a 200MHZ jump to 2200 instead of 2000 that the Clawhamer offers witch would be better ?



All original Athlon 64s were based off the Clawhammer core; 130nm SOI with 1MB L2 cache. The recent Athlon 64 3000+ was also based on the ClawHammer core, but with half the L2 cache disabled. These Clawhammer (also known as Model 4) Athlons will undergo significant change sometime in the next few weeks. In a nutshell, Clawhammer cores will all be replaced by Newcastle cores (130nm SOI, 512KB L2 cache). The future Newcastle based Athlon 64s are also known as "Model C" Athlons.

Socket-754 Roadmap Update for 2004
Core Clock Speed Cache Size Release Date
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ Newcastle 2.4GHz 512KB Q2 '04
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ ClawHammer 2.2GHz 1MB Already Available
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Newcastle 2.2GHz 512KB Q2 '04
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ ClawHammer 2.0GHz 1MB Already Available
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Newcastle 2.0GHz 512KB Q2 '04
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ ClawHammer (Half L2 Disabled) 2.0GHz 512KB Already Available

Even though the new 3200+ and 3400+ will benifit from the 200MHz upgrade on the Newcastle core, the 50% smaller cache size has many negative implications; content creation and encoding may suffer. We did not find any mention of the Athlon 64 2800+ transitioning to the new Newcastle core, or confirmation as to whether or not the upcoming 3700+ will utilize the Newcastle core. Since the newest 3400+ receives an extra 200MHz boost in clockspeed, it is almost certain the 3700+ will debut with a 2.6GHz or higher core if it based off the 512KB L2 Newcastle core.

Here is a quick update on what the new SKU changes will look like.

Socket-754 SKU Updates for 2004
Old SKU New SKU
AMD Athlon 64 3400+ ADA3400AEP5AR ADA3400AEP4AX
AMD Athlon 64 3200+ ADA3200AEP5AR ADA3200AEP4AX
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ ADA3000AEP4AR ADA3000AEP4AX

This may affect some motherboards since they may not be able to detect the new Model C Athlon 64s without a BIOS update. The CPU core ID will change from F4A to FC0 with the new processors.

Regards Brent

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

It has been shown that the Megahertz increase outweighs the decrease in cache overall. Remember, the new .09micron AMD64's have some core enhancements that show them to run 5 to 10% faster at the same frequency as the .13micron cpu's so they may be able to keep the 3700+ at 2400 with only 512cache but keep the rating

 

[Bteck]

Thank you michaelpatrick33 I have bought this new 64-3200+ with the 512 cash and I was a bit consurned that it might run slower even though it had a faster clock speed I wasent going to keep it if it was going to slow thing up.

 

[Yanagi]

WOW! I would also like to get a CPU with 512 CASH

Sorry I just had to remark

 

[JBT]

The Newcastle core with 200 more mhz but 512 less CACHE is going to be faster at stock. If you OC then the Clawhammer core is going to be faster at the same Mhz.

 

[Bteck]

Hay thanks guys it sounds like I have a good CPU then that is good I always worry when I change to the future lol.

Im building a new system it will have the MSI K8N Neo Platinum mother board 2 G OCZ memory AMD'S 64/3200+ CPU ATI's 9800 XT Video Card Sound Blaster's Audigy 2 ZS sound Card with 21" Trinitron flat screen and Kipishi or how ever you spell that 5.1 Speaker system I will be ready this weekend to put it all together. Ps I will use the Sata as well Just havent made up my mind yet on what hard drives to go with yet.

I thank you all for your help if you have any more advice it is always welcome

Regards
Brent

 

[trexpesto]

Love my seagate sata. Quite quiet, and the new ones come with 5-year warranty!
Check out storagereview.com for detailed comparisons of pretty much all hard drives.

EDIT: places like Fry's or whatnot often have sales where you can get drives for ~ 50cents/gig, but usually they are IDE (PATA), not SATA. Keep an eye on HotDeals if you need to save a bit.

 

[Bteck]

Thank you trexpesto I will do that. I was soet of thinking seagate myself just so much to chou?s from thanks for your advice on the hard drives

Regards Brent

 

[Bteck]

Hay guys I have my new rig going read above if you are new. This thing fly's wow The hard drives I got are Seagate Barracudas 160 G x2 the Sata runs great.

Once again thanks to all for your help

Regards Brent

P.S I will post benchmarks soon