Question 3050 Reviews

[jpiniero]

Videocardz has a review that was mistakenly posted early: https://videocardz.com/newz/evga-geforce-rtx-3050-review-leaks-out-ahead-of-the-embargo

It doesn't compare it to the 6500 XT but it's definitely slower than the 6600.

 

[scineram]

Wow, the 6600 is incredible value. Beats the Geforce to a pulp for the same price.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

This launch was the bad joke I surmised it would be. Not readily available, and the street price is derp. Wait they said. It'll be worth it they said. LULZ!

This card is not getting roasted properly. I'll do it myself. It's hot garbage. It is grossly overpriced, even at fairy magic MSRP/RRP for a card that has the performance of 70s series from half a decade ago. The reasons for it are readily evident, but that changes nothing. But I do get a good laugh at how, instead of pitchforks and torches outrage over performance and pricing. It is suddenly an interdasting cause for discussion.

While the 6500xt definitely has a narrow use case i.e. PCIe 4.0/5.0 builds. It is still the best sub $300 card you can buy for those. Why would I risk tarnishing my reputation, and/or have systems I sold, come back for service, because I sold them with a less expensive, old, used card, on the wrong end of the bathtub curve?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

On that note, it makes me kick myself that I didn't get two 3060 Ti FE cards the first time I went to Best Buy for one. I was pretty much the last person in line, and they had maybe 8 cards left. One lady asked if she could just get back in line, and the workers didn't care as long as everyone that was there to get one at least got one. Ever since that time, it has been much harder to get one from Best Buy.

I will reply to this, then steer us back on topic.

Your regret is shared by many from shortly before C19 monkey wrenched everything. And why I get mildly annoyed with the "wait" advice so often dispensed by our crowd. Long hair Steve of GN told everyone not to panic buy back when this all first started. That advice aged like warm milk.

On the 3050: In the fantasy league where the old normal existed. This would have been a cool 1660 Super replacement price wise - 8GB of ram and RTX on a budget card like that, would have been a big hit. But the reality is, that this is exactly what I surmised - Have to win it in the shuffle or hit a retail drop on point to buy one without getting fleeced. Even then, overpriced, but good enough in this market.

I am not accepting the sales pitch or excuses for it though. Putting 8GB on it guaranteed it would suffer the same fate as every other 8GB card. And reviewers feigning ignorance with the "We don't know how much it is going to actually cost" nonsense is also laughable. I, a mental midget, knew it would be $400 and up add to cart. A few went so far as to explain how it was still a deal, especially v. the 6500xt at 1440p. Madness, absolute lunacy. How about we compare it to the 6600, the real competition in the price bracket?

 

[AnitaPeterson]

Pretty much in line with what was expected: comfortably nestled between the 1660 Super and the 1660 Ti.
Now, if only the actual in-store price two days from now would follow MSRP, instead of scalping...

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Pretty much in line with what was expected: comfortably nestled between the 1660 Super and the 1660 Ti.
Now, if only the actual in-store price two days from now would follow MSRP, instead of scalping...

The preorders in Japan sold out immediately at the equivalent of $400 U.S. so I would not get your hopes up just yet.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Pretty much in line with what was expected: comfortably nestled between the 1660 Super and the 1660 Ti.
Now, if only the actual in-store price two days from now would follow MSRP, instead of scalping...

That's a pretty thin interval to be in lol. About what I figured this card would be though, 1660 Super/Ti performance. The Nvidia official slides made it look like a 1070 Ti with DLSS but I knew those numbers wouldn't hold once the benchmarks weren't done with their cherry picked games and settings.

 

[pcslookout]

The preorders in Japan sold out immediately at the equivalent of $400 U.S. so I would not get your hopes up just yet.

Good.

 

[ultimatebob]

Here's the long awaited Steve review from Gamers Nexus:

He's my favorite GPU reviewer right now... I think that he's the only one who is as ticked off with the shortages as the rest of us are.

 

[AtenRa]

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3050 Gaming OC Review | TechPowerUp

Palit GeForce RTX 3050 StormX OC Review | TechPowerUp

EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 XC Black Review | TechPowerUp

ASUS GeForce RTX 3050 STRIX OC Review | TechPowerUp

From the reviews,

Gigabyte is pricing this card at $379 MSRP

ASUS is pricing the RTX Strix RTX 3050 OC at an MSRP of $489

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Here's the long awaited Steve review from Gamers Nexus:

He's my favorite GPU reviewer right now... I think that he's the only one who is as ticked off with the shortages as the rest of us are.

It's gotta be killing the views he gets. Though I hate calling it a shortage like Nvidia's not producing a ton of these cards, it's miners driving demand through the roof that's to blame.

 

[guidryp]

Gigabyte is pricing this card at $379 MSRP

ASUS is pricing the RTX Strix RTX 3050 OC at an MSRP of $489

Everyone in the whole retail chain is in on the price gouging. These are practically pre-scalped by the OEMs.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3050 Gaming OC Review | TechPowerUp

Palit GeForce RTX 3050 StormX OC Review | TechPowerUp

EVGA GeForce RTX 3050 XC Black Review | TechPowerUp

ASUS GeForce RTX 3050 STRIX OC Review | TechPowerUp

From the reviews,

Gigabyte is pricing this card at $379 MSRP

ASUS is pricing the RTX Strix RTX 3050 OC at an MSRP of $489

So you're boned even buying it on launch day. Also that EVGA card tested is $330 MSRP since EVGA put the $330 BIOS onto the supposedly $250 card review samples they sent out.

 

[Asterox]

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[ultimatebob]

It's gotta be killing the views he gets. Though I hate calling it a shortage like Nvidia's not producing a ton of these cards, it's miners driving demand through the roof that's to blame.

This card would suck for mining through... no? It's probably an LHR model, until someone hacks the BIOS and the drivers to get around it, anyway.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Mining hashrate(s)?

 

[guidryp]

This card would suck for mining through... no? It's probably an LHR model, until someone hacks the BIOS and the drivers to get around it, anyway.

I haven't seen them able to Hack LHR cards yet, other than the first one where NVidia accidentally released the clean drivers.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

This card would suck for mining through... no? It's probably an LHR model, until someone hacks the BIOS and the drivers to get around it, anyway.

Miners take up all the good cards though lifting trash cards like these into high end pricing for gamers.

 

[ultimatebob]

I haven't seen them able to Hack LHR cards yet, other than the first one where NVidia accidentally released the clean drivers.

My hunch is that some savvy developer will reverse engineer those drivers to get around the hash rate limit for the 3050.

If they did, though, it would probably be best for them to keep it quiet and just horde the cards for their own mining operation

 

[ultimatebob]

Mining hashrate(s)?

Apparently, it is bad. Which is good for the rest of us!

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 is not good for Ethereum mining - VideoCardz.com

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 is for gamers, not miners Our source in China provided some Ethereum mining performance of the upcoming RTX 3050 graphics card. It appears that the card ships with the Lite Hash Rate algorithm in place because the hash rate drops from 20-ish to 12.5 MH/s in a matter of...

videocardz.com

 

[Panino Manino]

In short................

If you post this on any anime forum 99% will interpret this as an AMD victory.

These launch prices are bad, but still competitive with the latest AMD atrocity, and it's not capped right?

 

[blckgrffn]

In a vacuum where the 3060 regularly goes for $600 on second hand markets, it seems like ~$400-$450 is a likely landing point for this guy.

Right up next to the 6600, and let's face it nvidia has long been able to command a premium vs AMD gpus so that makes sense.

But DLSS! lol.

During this shortage I bought a 1070 FE and a GTX 1660 DDR5 6GB and they both felt underwhelming, and then I got hold of a solidly clocked EVGA GTX 980ti and while it might burn some power it dusted them both in Borderlands 3, my game of choice. I guess I am saying I feel like a 1070 is in a no mans land for performance comparison - you get to turn up some sliders but not all of them even at 1080p.

If you can get it directly at ~$350 that seems like a "deal" in todays market. $250 is a myth, imo. Nvidia just couldn't price it at $330+ without admitting that the 3060 MSRP was also a myth. Happy hunting! I'll pull the trigger if I see the right one.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Its the same story we've heard for just about every single card launch save one: Great card, terrible street price.

Given these are all cut GA106 chips means expect supply to run into a wall in short order. From the sounds of it through, the boards are being engineered for a clean GA107 drop in so when laptops stop eating that supply of chips or NV allocates more wafers to GA107 then there will likely just need to be some quiet box/branding revisions but things will be in place to keep cards shipping.

 

[Panino Manino]

But DLSS! lol.

But here I had thought that DLSS was much more relevant for the low end cards.

 

[AnitaPeterson]

They keep good track of reviews here:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Review Roundup | VideoCardz.com

Featured, GeForce RTX 3050, Review Roundup NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Reviews Today NVIDIA lifts the embargo on its entry-level GeForce RTX 3050 graphics card reviews. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 Reviews

videocardz.com

 

[guidryp]

Wow, the 6600 is incredible value. Beats the Geforce to a pulp for the same price.

Now that scalpers have essentially pushed GPUs to whatever price people will pay. It's interesting to see how much more people are willing to play for NVidia cards.

The RTX 3060 has similar MSRP and performance to the RX 6600, and yet the street price appears at least $200 higher on the 3060.