3000+ Winnie LBBID any good?

[perdomot]

Just got this cpu and it has the LBBID not the usual CBBID marking and I wanted to ask if anyone is using this. Got my new Chaintech VNF4 coming and am hoping for a good OC.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Looks like a Winchester. Get cpuid and see what it says!

CPUID

3000+ LBBID

 

[perdomot]

Still waiting on the mobo due Wed.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: perdomot
Still waiting on the mobo due Wed.

DOH! Didn't read closely enough

That is as much as I found with Googling on the LBBID revision.

 

[EndGame]

The LBBID's have been performing nearly identical as CBBID's.........

 

[perdomot]

what kind of OCs are the CBBID's getting EndGame?

 

[EndGame]

Vaires with your setup, but, the CBBID's are among the worst O/C'ers...... Hey, you may get lucky though.....some CBBID's have done 500Mhz, but not to many I've read about......

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: EndGame
Vaires with your setup, but, the CBBID's are among the worst O/C'ers...... Hey, you may get lucky though.....some CBBID's have done 500Mhz, but not to many I've read about......

He got the LBBID stepping not the CBBID stepping. Here's hoping for you

 

[bjc112]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: EndGame
Vaires with your setup, but, the CBBID's are among the worst O/C'ers...... Hey, you may get lucky though.....some CBBID's have done 500Mhz, but not to many I've read about......

He got the LBBID stepping not the CBBID stepping. Here's hoping for you

I'm rootin' for you as well.

I am stuck @ 2160 (240x9) CBBID 05/05

Runs off stock volts though...

2 MOBO's

2 PSU's

Different ram..

No dice.



Good luck

 

[InlineFive]

The CBBIDs have a memory controller which cannot usually go over 240Mhz HT. I can attest to this as well as many others.

 

[EndGame]

Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33

Originally posted by: EndGame
Vaires with your setup, but, the CBBID's are among the worst O/C'ers...... Hey, you may get lucky though.....some CBBID's have done 500Mhz, but not to many I've read about......

He got the LBBID stepping not the CBBID stepping. Here's hoping for you

If you would have read the whole post, I stated that the LBBID's are performing almost identicaly to the CBBID's, thus the reference. If you do a search you'll find that since the LBBID's first started showing up, they've been comparable to CBBID's in every way.

 

[thanatos355]

i havent had a prob with my cbbid. i'm not the only one either. sure, i would have liked to get one that runs at 2.6ghz+, but i'm not going to complain about what i've got!

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
The CBBIDs have a memory controller which cannot usually go over 240Mhz HT. I can attest to this as well as many others.

How about using a memory divider? Can you raise the HTT farther?

 

[perdomot]

Well, hopefully I will be able to get 10 X 240 at least. I got the VNF4 mobo from Chaintech which seems to offer a good chance for OCing and I plan to start experimenting very soon

 

[cbehnken]

Originally posted by: perdomot
Well, hopefully I will be able to get 10 X 240 at least. I got the VNF4 mobo from Chaintech which seems to offer a good chance for OCing and I plan to start experimenting very soon

You aren't going to get 10 x anything.

The multipliers on the socket 939 3000+ are 9x and below.

Oh, btw if you want to overclock with the Chaintech NF4 you're probably going to want to install a fan on the nf4 chip.

 

[Duvie]

All none FX chips are top locked....meaning no multipliers higher then stock setting, but mulipliers lower are open....

3000+ = 9x and lower
3200+ = 10x and lower
3500+ = 11x and lower
3800+ = 12x and lower


To the above I worked with bjc112 and we did the right test to isolate and it is clear no matter the divider, the vidmm, the cas settings this thing will not do above 240 HTT. We tried changing multiplier...no go!! We swapped mobos for a new one...exact same spot!!!! It is the cpu....


the only thing I can think of is they dont have great yields with the memory controllers and recently 3200+ and 3500+ were hot sellers....meaning maybe the not so good of the yields were needed to fill the lower end of the chips.....

I would really have to see how the CBBID 3200+'s did as well as the 3500's to get a real understanding of what is going on in the numbers game...

 

[perdomot]

Quick update: Looks like 9 X 270 is the best I am going to get on this chip so I'm happy. Next will be getting better ram. Using the PQI Gunmetal PC3200 with the 133 memory divider. I'm going to test the 166 divider after I Ghost everything in case of data corruption. BTW, I am using 1.6 vcore at the moment but think I should be able to drop it to 1.5 or less. Does that sound about right?

 

[Aisengard]

That's a great overclock, especially from a later Winchester. And I don't think Winchesters are supposed to go to 1.6V. What's your temperatures look like?

 

[Aisengard]

x2

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: Aisengard
That's a great overclock, especially from a later Winchester. And I don't think Winchesters are supposed to go to 1.6V. What's your temperatures look like?

Well make sure if you have set 1.6v that it isn't undervolting...you may be giving it less so it may be fine...i would emply the 10% rule so about 1.55v is in the safe range...heck 1.6v is likely in the safe range but I dont even do it myself....the payback of added performance when you get that high is a matter of a few HTT...so like 18-27mhz?? Not worth the added heat and potential strain....