3 pin fan voltage

changlish76

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I want to control the speed or just drop the voltage for one 1350rpm 120mm fan (3 pin). Also happen to have one free sata power connection near my ssd. Was looking at stuff like this:

Sata Fan Controller
Reduction Cable
Speed Switch

Does anyone know how that sata fan controller works? I'd just like to know if something like that is reliable VS using a resistor cable
 

ClockHound

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The SATA controller takes the 12V from the PSU and runs it through a regulator and puts heat into the atmosphere and contributes to global warming in a tiny insignificant way and delivers probably 5 to 10V to the fan - which is doing it's thing by reducing global warming in a tiny insignificant way. ;)

But still....if you only need to reduce rpm for one fan, then a simple cable with resistor would suffice.

If you really don't want to splurge the $2.73 on a fancy cable, can just get creative with the needle nose pliers and curse words: https://www.hardwaresecrets.com/how-to-create-a-three-speed-fan-control-without-spending-a-dime/
 

changlish76

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Thanks Hound, I really like the scientific breakdown :smile: I'm just curious to know what the most efficient way to handle this would be. If the regulator or resistor get super hot, maybe I should just rig the fan for 7v
 

ClockHound

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Neither will get super hot...because the global warming governor will kick in and turn off your PC. ;-)

That and there's little current going to a 1350rpm fan. Could try the 7V option first - it's a free tweak. Other than the time and cursing involved.
 

Paperdoc

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Are you familiar with the automatic fan speed control systems already built into your mobo for free? If not, post back here with two details:
1. Your mobo maker and exact model number.
2. You fan maker and exact model number. Or, if you can;t get that, look at the fan for labels and tell us either the Amps it says, or the Watts. You've already told us that it is of the 3-pin design.

With those things we can give you pretty complete instructions for getting the fan under mobo control.

Don't forget, the slower (and quieter) your fan turns, the LESS cooling air it supplies and the HIGHER goes the temperature of stuff inside your case and on the mobo. The mobo's automatic system takes care of that. It is designed to make the case ventilation fans run only as much as necessary to keep the mobo's critical component temperatures at the right place.
 

changlish76

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Working on a Dell 3010 MT with the original mih61r mobo. Only fan related option I've seen in bios is temp regulated or full rpm. The fans I have on hand right now are AFACO-12000-GBA01. I have 2 of these machines and a pair of Dell 9010 MT that could use front intake fans, especially with the addition of full length graphics cards.

Honestly not sure if the 3010 cpu header is even pwm and the dell bios / fans seem a bit frustrating
 
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Paperdoc

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On your mobo, its manual has one item related to case fan speed. On p. 37 it speaks of an option called Fan Control Override. By default it DISabled so that the mobo can control the case fa; but changing it to ENABLED will override that and force that fan to full speed always. So check how that is set.

The fan link you gave is to the Arctic Cooling F12 TC. Is that exactly the fans you have? Arctic makes several similar ones, but the "TC" models have their OWN internal temperature sensors. They are intended for use with systems that do NOT try to control the fan, and so the fan does its own temperature-based control of itself. If that really is the fans you are using, they probably SHOULD receive a constant 12 VDC supply (that is, the Override should be ENabled). But if you do NOT have the "TC" model, a "normal" fan should have the Override DISabled. If you make any changes in BIOS Setup, remember to SAVE and EXIT.
 

changlish76

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Oops, the model was right but the link for TC, it is only the standard version not TC. With fan control override set the fans spin incredibly fast, which is why I've been looking into different ways to power the fan off my evga psu.
 

Paperdoc

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Of your fan is a normal one, then that BIOS Override setting should be DISabled to allow the mobo header to reduce the voltage to the fans and slow it down.
 

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As an aside:

Adding heat to the air isn't global warming. Global warming is caused by adding chemicals that destroy the ozone layer to the atmosphere The ozone layer reflects heat from the sun back out into space.
 

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As an aside:

Adding heat to the air isn't global warming. Global warming is caused by adding chemicals that destroy the ozone layer to the atmosphere The ozone layer reflects heat from the sun back out into space.

Thanks for the humour-killing fact update. Life is not serious enough, especially here.

And while you're setting the facts straight, you might want to get your facts straight first. While ozone depletion, caused by chlorofluorocarbons in the atmosphere, is a contributing factor, it is not the primary driver of global warming.

"The industrial activities that our modern civilization depends upon have raised atmospheric carbon dioxide levels from 280 parts per million to 400 parts per million in the last 150 years. The panel also concluded there's a better than 95 percent probability that human-produced greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide have caused much of the observed increase in Earth's temperatures over the past 50 years."

https://climate.nasa.gov/causes/
 

Billb2

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You are very correct.

My answer was the quick and dirty one.
Just that the heat from camp fires and the like doesn't contribute to global warming (ie. the ozone problem).
 

Paperdoc

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We've been sidetracked into a different subject, but I'm going to add to that, anyway. I think some posters fail to grasp the totality of Global Warming in an attempt to deny the impact we people have. Global Warming is the phenomenon of raising the temperature of the earth's SURFACE and its immediately-adjacent atmosphere. It has TWO major causes. One certainly is changes to the gasses and particulates in the atmosphere, and that's a more recent process. The atmosphere has two related functions here. It reflects a portion of the radiation arriving from the sun back into space, and it allows the rest to penetrate all the way to the surface. This process is selective - the split between reflected and transmitted depends on the frequency or wavelength of the radiation. In the case of infrared (heat) rays, higher-energy (shorter wavelength) rays are passed through to the earth more easily. The process is exactly the same for radiation passing the other way. That is, heat (IR) rays emitted by the earth's surface (and all its structures, etc.) will head out through the atmosphere into space, subject to the same split of transmitted out / reflected back to the surface. By far the majority of the heat energy arriving at the earth's surface (well over 90%) gets sent back out into space, but not all. What impacts the Global Warming phenomenon is what's called the "Greenhouse Effect" because it is the same thing as what the glass windows of a greenhouse do. Of all the infrared radiation passed thought the atmosphere to the surface, most is absorbed and heats thing up. Then those things re-emit infrared radiation BUT at a lower energy (longer wavelength) than the original incoming infrared. This radiation trying to p[ass through the atmosphere into space is reflected back to earth more efficiently than the original higher-energy incoming radiation. In effect, the atmosphere traps that heat on earth so it cannot be lost to space. Recent changes to the makeup of the earth's atmosphere have enhanced its tendency to trap lower-energy infrared radiation, and thus has shifted the traditional balance of infrared energy flow in the direction of keeping more of it inside the atmosphere.That shift, caused mostly by a wide variety of human activity, is a major cause of Global Warming.

However, long before that, other causes have been active. Just the use of any energy source for our benefit always produces some waste heat (as low-energy infrared radiation) of the type that is easily trapped by the atmosphere. This can include burning fuels for heat, using electrical devices for work, even our own simple daily living processes (and there are more of us, and growing!) In addition, the simple act of burning any fuel releases carbon dioxide which is one of the gasses in the atmosphere that tends to prevent the escape into space of low-energy infrared. So, even our simpler activities contribute to Global warming significantly, never mind those that release new odd chemicals into the atmosphere.